George Zimmerman trial

[brainhulk]

Do you guys think he will be found guilty? what do you think will be the aftermath?

 

[shortylickens]

WRONG FORUM NEWB!!

 

[Number1]

I hope they find him guilty but it's really hard to tell what is going to happen with all there weird laws.

 

[brainhulk]

WRONG FORUM NEWB!!

nothing to do with politics. it's about a hooded sweatshirt

 

[LookBehindYou]

My best guess is that they are going to find him innocent. If it took this long just to file charges it probably means they don't have a whole lot to go on. It'll be easier for his defense team to claim self defense then it will be for the prosecuters to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that it was murder.

As for what happens afterwards...Florida will probably get a nice little riot out of it.

 

[brainhulk]

what's the likely number of black people to be on the jury?

 

[Oyeve]

He will probably be found innocent on the charge because I am sure a lot of white/Jewish/Mexicans will donate much cash. Then he will live in hiding for the rest of his life and get arrested for drunken disorderly conduct.

 

[EagleKeeper]

Regarding riots:
Those clamoring for his head have been stating that they want "justice".

A innocence finding of M2 will make them prove is it justice or revenge.

I suspect that there will be rioting and it will prove that revenge is foremost on the publicity seekers.

 

[Jeeebus]

most likely scenario - the case is dismissed before it ever goes to a jury. The judge will hold a hearing on the self defense claim and if there is sufficient evidence to support it, he will dismiss the case himself.

 

[Fausto]

He should be found guilty, but this is Florida we're talking about so who knows.

 

[slayer202]

Florida....

Just imagine the people who will be on the jury....

They'll decide innocent

 

[Brainonska511]

Not guilty != innocent

 

[Merad]

The way the law is written its assumed that his shooting was justified and the prosecution has to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that it wasn't. I doubt they will be able to do that.

Crappy law is crappy.

 

[highland145]

most likely scenario - the case is dismissed before it ever goes to a jury. The judge will hold a hearing on the self defense claim and if there is sufficient evidence to support it, he will dismiss the case himself.

Man, I hope so.

The bias the some media outlets showed is sickening. ABC had no other reason to edit the 911 other than race baiting or ratings. That crap is going to get Z lynched sooner or later. Some will never change their mind no matter what the facts show.

As for Al Sharpton, Duke and Tawanda should be tattooed on his forehead.

Edit: He should have stayed his ass in the car.

 

[OILFIELDTRASH]

most likely scenario - the case is dismissed before it ever goes to a jury. The judge will hold a hearing on the self defense claim and if there is sufficient evidence to support it, he will dismiss the case himself.

I'll have to disagree here. This is the biggest most racially charged case since Rodney King. America will not be satisfied without at least a trial. No judge will singlehandedly just dismiss this case.

 

[dougp]

I'll have to disagree here. This is the biggest most racially charged case since Rodney King. America will not be satisfied without at least a trial. No judge will singlehandedly just dismiss this case.

The only people who've made this about race is the media and all the lackey's who've spoken out, like Al Sharpton, the Black Panthers, etc.

The way the law works is the prosecutor's will need to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the man is guilty. If it's taken this long to bring up charges, chances are there is not enough circumstantial evidence to convict.

 

[darkewaffle]

At first I got "George Zimmerman", suspected murderer and loony, confused with "George Zimmer", jolly CEO of Men's Wearhouse. But it makes more sense now.

 

[tboo]

I wouldn't want to be a juror in this trial. If you find him not guilty you'll probably have a bounty put on your head.

 

[ichy]

Rationally I'm thinking that the charges ought to be dismissed before trial. My irrational, gut feeling is that he'll be acquitted of murder but convicted of manslaughter with the jury figuring that Zimmerman initiated the confrontation but Martin at least being partially responsible for escalating it. That being said I'm usually wrong about these things.

 

[terry107]

Beyond a reasonable doubt is a high standard. I think he will be found not guilty.

 

[DrPizza]

My personal feeling: it'll be like the OJ trial - high publicity when in reality with people glued to their televisions, when in reality, people really should get a life and do something better than sit on their ass watching a court case on television. As far as the actual verdict - I haven't a clue, because I don't care enough to have actually waded through news story after news story, and 1000's of posts in the thread in P&N.

However, in the the civil trial for wrongful death - he'll lose big time, having instigated the whole thing. I'd guess a multi-million dollar settlement, unless Florida has some sort of self defense thing that means you can't sue. In which case, I think he would have to be found "innocent" rather than "not guilty" - but IANAL.


And as soon as this poll gets off topic, it'll be locked, just like the last thread that got woefully

 

[Linflas]

It may not even go to trial. Under the Florida law as I understand things if he asserts he is protected by the stand your ground law the prosecution will have to convince a judge there is enough evidence to prove his actions are not protected under that statute before it ever gets to a jury trial.

 

[corwin]

The way the law is written its assumed that his shooting was justified and the prosecution has to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that it wasn't. I doubt they will be able to do that.

Crappy law is crappy.

I'm sorry but I'm sure you meant to say the way the legal system works in the USA is innocent until PROVEN guilty...I'm just sure that's what you meant to say...that last part would have to be redacted though because it just wouldn't fit anymore

I'll have to disagree here. This is the biggest most racially charged case since Rodney King. America will not be satisfied without at least a trial. No judge will singlehandedly just dismiss this case.

If there's not enough evidence to go to trial a judge would be insane to let it go just to appease the likely rioters...and I'm assuming that's what you mean by "America" will not be satisfied, those who are protesting and threatening the peace of society without "justice" ie a guilty verdict and "revenge"

 

[highland145]

However, in the the civil trial for wrongful death - he'll lose big time, having instigated the whole thing. I'd guess a multi-million dollar settlement, unless Florida has some sort of self defense thing that means you can't sue. In which case, I think he would have to be found "innocent" rather than "not guilty" - but IANAL.


And as soon as this poll gets off topic, it'll be locked, just like the last thread that got woefully

SC's law is explicit (castle law). If it applies, the shooter can never be sued civilly.

 

[slayer202]

I'm sorry but I'm sure you meant to say the way the legal system works in the USA is innocent until PROVEN guilty...I'm just sure that's what you meant to say...that last part would have to be redacted though because it just wouldn't fit anymore

Yes but there is no debate on whether or not he killed someone. It's a much more complicated scenario than a simple murder trial