George Soros, making the Koch brothers look like amatures

[dave_the_nerd]

Soros has a better record of fighting Communism that Reagan.

 

[BladeVenom]

George Soros reminds me of a James Bond villain, all he needs is a Persian Cat to complete the picture.

 

[BoberFett]

Maybe you should try to show him why he's wrong, instead of telling him what he believes and then disparaging him for it...

Or is the troll routine as far as you go?

So I'm supposed to do his legwork for him? If he wants to believe in some grand secret conspiracy, what facts are going to change his partisan mind?

Tell you what, you do all the research. Spend hours, days, weeks of your life compiling evidence to present to some anonymous online conspiracy theorist partisan hack. Oh, you don't want to waste your time? Then why the hell should I?

No, you're just another partisan fool who believe your team is infallible, and other team is evil.

 

[BoberFett]

Soros has a better record of fighting Communism that Reagan.

And a better record of destroying economies than Dubya.

 

[sMiLeYz]

The desire to set up false equivalency produces yet another non-answer from the usual suspects. Shocker!

Anyone else know? I see a distinct difference in both goals and conduct between Soros and the Brothers Koch, and am curious to hear more input concerning key issues like the ones I mentioned.

Soros and Koch spend lotsa money
http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2010/09/opensecrets-battle---koch-brothers.html

Koch brother spends more of his money funding secret groups

Soros spends more giving directly to politicians.

And of course, Soros spends way more money around the world fighting communism, promoting democracy.

I would say the best outcome would be that both Soros and Koch were taken out of the picture all together. Money special interests from billionaires have no reason to be in politics.

Of course, I sincerely believe this would be way more devastating for their right wing movement considering how much both brothers spend.

 

[Jhhnn]

Soros and the Koch brothers are exactly the same, except that Soros is on the wrong side of logic.

Mere assertion is not a statement of fact or even an argument, no matter how many times it gets repeated.

I suppose that self regulated banking, the ownership society & the resulting bailout really were on the side of logic, along with the whole theory of trickledown economics, too. Cutting taxes while going to war was a really smart decision. Extending the Bush taxcuts really has perked up the jobs picture, too.

Both of Obama's birth certificates are fraudulent, as is the claim of killing Bin Laden, and the Iraqis really did have WMD's and a reconstituted nuclear weapons program, as well. Perfectly logical, I'm sure.

I could cover the page with more of the same, but it wouldn't make any difference to denialists, which is the best way I know how to describe middle class self styled conservatives.

 

[kage69]

So I'm supposed to do his legwork for him?

No, you're supposed to back up your own assertions with something more than insults and assumptions. He can point to the Koch Bros. history of using cover orgs to fund astro-turf operations, inherently dishonest and secretive, as an example of their dishonest and secretive behavior. What is it you can submit that invalidates that? Putting words in his mouth doesn't accomplish anything.

If he wants to believe in some grand secret conspiracy, what facts are going to change his partisan mind?

Which grand conspiracy theory would this be then? If you're so convinced of your position then dispense with generalizations and drop the knowledge! I don't think anyone here is submitting that Soros doesn't have his own agenda, or doesn't try to influence politics with his fortune - clearly neither is the case. The issue lies in the OP's premise that Soros is somehow even more unscrupulous than the Koch Bros, which just isn't supported by the facts. I and others are saying, well let's see the Soros equivalents to what we know The Koch Bros have been up to. How is that conspiratorial?

Tell you what, you do all the research. Spend hours, days, weeks of your life compiling evidence to present to some anonymous online conspiracy theorist partisan hack. Oh, you don't want to waste your time? Then why the hell should I?

Odd coming from someone who doesn't seem to mind wasting their time as a troll, but whatever, how about we just check all the speculation at the door and concern ourselves with just known facts?

No, you're just another partisan fool who believe your team is infallible, and other team is evil.

Again with the ad hom and assumptions, not one for creativity are you? I don't have a team, I don't believe anyone or anything is infallible, and while I doubt evil is a prime motive in any group I have no doubt that greed and ego are. You decrying partisanship while at the same time framing this within your own "team vs team" mentality. LOL thanks, haven't seen ironing like that in ...shit, days!


Anyone else want to give it a try? I know it's been a rough few weeks for all the dittoheads and they desperately need a rally point or two , but I was really hoping to see something more than just the standard, frothy talk-radio fail here.

There's plenty about Soros that I find shady and even inappropriate, but I can't bring myself to agree that he's as sleazy and dangerous as the Brothers Koch. Not after hearing Walker getting fooled on the phone, not after seeing them corrupt a state institution's legitimacy with purchased political authority, and not after seeing them take advantage of middle class Americans via their tea party front.

What is it that makes Soros so reprehensible? The reasons stated in the OP are a joke, there has to be something more tangible than 'he donated to a group that didn't want W to be president.'

 

[kage69]

Soros and Koch spend lotsa money
http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2010/09/opensecrets-battle---koch-brothers.html

Koch brother spends more of his money funding secret groups

Soros spends more giving directly to politicians.

And of course, Soros spends way more money around the world fighting communism, promoting democracy.

I would say the best outcome would be that both Soros and Koch were taken out of the picture all together. Money special interests from billionaires have no reason to be in politics.

Of course, I sincerely believe this would be way more devastating for their right wing movement considering how much both brothers spend.

Good link, thanks, and I agree.

 

[theeedude]

Koch brothers' political dealings are largely in their own self interest. Less regulation for them, less taxation for them and their heirs when they receive they pass their wealth. Soros's political activity is largely against his personal self interest.

 

[Jhhnn]

Koch brothers' political dealings are largely in their own self interest. Less regulation for them, less taxation for them and their heirs when they receive they pass their wealth. Soros's political activity is largely against his personal self interest.

Which leaves Righties dazed and confused. Soros elaborates-

"We have to distinguish between playing by the rules and making the rules," Soros said. "Playing by the rules, one does the best one can, irrespective of the social consequences. Whereas in making the rules, people ought to be concerned with the social consequences and not with their personal interests -- in other words, not to bend the rules to their benefit or their advantage. This is a principle which I have certainly observed."

The Koch Bros? Not so much, obviously...