George H W Bush has passed away at 94

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VRAMdemon

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Wasn't a fan of the Iran-Contra group pardon. I disagreed with some things he did and many of his policies, but this is true for any President I have actual respect for. But he was a professional. He knew what government could and could not do and was willing to work within those restrictions. There's a lot to be said for professionalism. He raised taxes when it was necessary despite his long-term very public promises not to do so. His Iraq war was well executed and for the most part for solid reasoning. Admired his principled resignation from the NRA - after his political career was over - following Wayne LaPierre's remarks after Oklahoma City. I salute his service in WWII as a full combat Navy flyer. His plane was hit in combat. He lost 2 crew mates and barely survived himself.

RIP!
 
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Commodus

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Also mocked HW as well. Trump should be left standing in a corner by himself.

HW was the last foreign policy President, the one who knew the world as it was.

Yeah, my feeling was that Trump can come, but must not be allowed to say anything (or at most, a brief prepared statement of condolences). At best, he'd use the opportunity as a soapbox for his grudges du jour; at worst he'd disrespect a recently deceased President and permanently tarnish the funeral.

It's rather sad that Trump is so fundamentally vile that you can't even trust him to perform what should be the safest of duties for a President: paying tribute to a previous President's service.
 
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Hayabusa Rider

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Yeah, my feeling was that Trump can come, but must not be allowed to say anything (or at most, a brief prepared statement of condolences). At best, he'd use the opportunity as a soapbox for his grudges du jour; at worst he'd disrespect a recently deceased President and permanently tarnish the funeral.

It's rather sad that Trump is so fundamentally vile that you can't even trust him to perform what should be the safest of duties for a President: paying tribute to a previous President's service.

"George was OK for a guy who raised taxes, unlike me! MAGA!"
 

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I am glad he got to see his party take his Willie Horton race baiting to its logical conclusion.
 

Jaskalas

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I didn’t like GW as President. He wasn’t the right guy for that time. He was great like Carter as a former President. Earned my respect.
I’ll never forget a pbs interview where he explained why he ended the gulf war without Sadams leaving power.
During a briefing he watched an Apache(?) gunship hunt down a single man. Bush said something about how can you win a war when a multi million dollar machine is being used to hunt one man.
PBS played an a video to accompany Bush’s words and it was disturbing low light intensified outline of guy kind of shooting up, then hiding behind a wall, the helicopter moving to the other side, him running behind a car an so on until he was killed. I’m not sure if that was the video Bush was speaking about but I understood his point.
Bush was a good man

Bush Sr. was smart enough NOT to go to Baghdad. If only we kept listening.
 
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Paladin3

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Also mocked HW as well. Trump should be left standing in a corner by himself.

HW was the last foreign policy President, the one who knew the world as it was.
Respect must be give to the office of the President of the United States of America, if not to the mistake currently holding the high honor. Trump has already done more damage to the office than we can afford.
 

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Respect must be give to the office of the President of the United States of America, if not to the mistake currently holding the high honor. Trump has already done more damage to the office than we can afford.

I can respect the office which is why I disrespect Trump who disrespects people with every utterance.
 
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Mai72

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Bah.. He was the NWO! Along with the Clintons and Obomo! They want to keep good people like us down!!

lol, this is what the comment section is like on Fox News.
 

HomerJS

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History has looked kindly on Poppy Bush. Shows the benefits of promoting decency.
 

HomerJS

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Bah.. He was the NWO! Along with the Clintons and Obomo! They want to keep good people like us down!!

lol, this is what the comment section is like on Fox News.
More bottom feeding Trump supporters. We have them here
 

Mai72

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More bottom feeding Trump supporters. We have them here

Yea. It was the You Tube comment section. Probably a bunch of 14 year old who watch a NWO documentary and think that is real life.
 

FIVR

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So everybody forgets the dude who caused 9/11 in the first place by starting a war for Oil and putting troops in Saudi Arabia. The guy who allied us to that brutal despotic Saudi regime closer than ever before. This fvcking guy. It's always the worst of us who live the longest. The good die young, while the terrible remain.


I mean come on, wasn't he just sued for sexually harassing some woman a few weeks ago? I guess #MeToo goes out the window when you can virtue signal about how "centrist" you are.
 

DrDoug

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Any one decision a President makes can have a profound effect on history. In GHWB's case I sometimes wonder how history would have turned out if instead of instructing his SOS to tell Saddam that we don't get involved in border disputes, he had gotten the U.S. involved in the dispute with Kuwait.

If I remember right, I think it was five days after telling Saddam that we wouldn't get involved that Iraq invaded Kuwait.
 

DrDoug

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https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/12/01/george-hw-bush-legacy-222730

Is History Being Too Kind to George H.W. Bush?

The 41st president put self-interest over principle time and time again.

Yes, absolutely. It seems that some people like to say nice things about the dearly departed, ignoring the warts of their past in their remembrance of that person. George Carlin did a bit on this very thing in one of his acts.

Since this is a pretty reflexive move on the part of the media, I can't wait to see what nice things they have cooked up to say about Donny Dollhands when it's his time to compost.
 

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