George Bush should just STFU and go away.

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"I don't know where Osama bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority." – President George W. Bush, 3/13/02

"A victory for America, for people who seek peace around the world, and for all those who lost loved ones on September 11, 2001. The fight against terror goes on, but tonight America has sent an unmistakable message: No matter how long it takes, justice will be done."- Ex-President George W. Bush, 5/2/11



Holy Fuck! Bush should just STFU and go away!!!!


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Jaskalas

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You did not link a source, I really don't think he said it in 2002. I recall hearing that much later.

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Damn, I missed it at the time he said it. I blame the fact that I wasn't on P&N yet to hear it from you.
 
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Zargon

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but its ok that bho took credit for the effects of the 9 year war on terror that he bad mouthed as a candidate?


:rolleyes:
 

ProfJohn

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When you read the WHOLE Bush quote and place it in context it doesn't seem so bad
Q Mr. President, in your speeches now you rarely talk or mention Osama bin Laden. Why is that? Also, can you tell the American people if you have any more information, if you know if he is dead or alive? Final part -- deep in your heart, don't you truly believe that until you find out if he is dead or alive, you won't really eliminate the threat of --

THE PRESIDENT: Deep in my heart I know the man is on the run, if he's alive at all. Who knows if he's hiding in some cave or not; we haven't heard from him in a long time. And the idea of focusing on one person is -- really indicates to me people don't understand the scope of the mission.

Terror is bigger than one person. And he's just -- he's a person who's now been marginalized. His network, his host government has been destroyed. He's the ultimate parasite who found weakness, exploited it, and met his match. He is -- as I mentioned in my speech, I do mention the fact that this is a fellow who is willing to commit youngsters to their death and he, himself, tries to hide -- if, in fact, he's hiding at all.

So I don't know where he is. You know, I just don't spend that much time on him, Kelly, to be honest with you. I'm more worried about making sure that our soldiers are well-supplied; that the strategy is clear; that the coalition is strong; that when we find enemy bunched up like we did in Shahikot Mountains, that the military has all the support it needs to go in and do the job, which they did.

And there will be other battles in Afghanistan. There's going to be other struggles like Shahikot, and I'm just as confident about the outcome of those future battles as I was about Shahikot, where our soldiers are performing brilliantly. We're tough, we're strong, they're well-equipped. We have a good strategy. We are showing the world we know how to fight a guerrilla war with conventional means.

Q But don't you believe that the threat that bin Laden posed won't truly be eliminated until he is found either dead or alive?

THE PRESIDENT: Well, as I say, we haven't heard much from him. And I wouldn't necessarily say he's at the center of any command structure. And, again, I don't know where he is. I -- I'll repeat what I said. I truly am not that concerned about him. I know he is on the run. I was concerned about him, when he had taken over a country. I was concerned about the fact that he was basically running Afghanistan and calling the shots for the Taliban.

But once we set out the policy and started executing the plan, he became -- we shoved him out more and more on the margins. He has no place to train his al Qaeda killers anymore. And if we -- excuse me for a minute -- and if we find a training camp, we'll take care of it. Either we will or our friends will. That's one of the things -- part of the new phase that's becoming apparent to the American people is that we're working closely with other governments to deny sanctuary, or training, or a place to hide, or a place to raise money.

And we've got more work to do. See, that's the thing the American people have got to understand, that we've only been at this six months. This is going to be a long struggle. I keep saying that; I don't know whether you all believe me or not. But time will show you that it's going to take a long time to achieve this objective. And I can assure you, I am not going to blink. And I'm not going to get tired. Because I know what is at stake. And history has called us to action, and I am going to seize this moment for the good of the world, for peace in the world and for freedom.
 

classy

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but its ok that bho took credit for the effects of the 9 year war on terror that he bad mouthed as a candidate?


:rolleyes:

This is clearly Obama's credit. He took a more pointed approach and invaded Pakistan despite critism multiple times. In this area there is no question of his leadership.
 

techs

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You did not link a source, I really don't think he said it in 2002. I recall hearing that much later.

Just check the 9,145,587,185,191 links on the internet.

Oh, and I only used that quote in my sig for 5 years.
 
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Dominato3r

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Republicans and Democrats should just STFU. This is a great moment for you country, that soldier didnt give a shit if it was a republican or democrat that gave the order.
 

Jaskalas

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Just check the 9,145,587,185,191 links on the internet.

Oh, and I only used that quote in my sig for 5 years.

Since 2006 you say, which is when I would have placed the quote. Go figure.

Don't worry though, I've got ProfJohn to show me it really was quoted from 2002. Disappointing as it is, by itself, it sort of makes sense in context with the full answer.
 

ProfJohn

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Don't forget that when Bush made that statement the Osama trail had gone cold and would remain cold for a year or two.

After Tora Bora I don't think we heard anything about Obama for a couple of years. He totally disappeared off the map.

I think Bush's point was that the war was much bigger than just one man and that finding that one man was not going to bring it to an end. He was also pointing out that even with Osama seemingly gone we still had a long ways to go.
 

FerrelGeek

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This would be a moot point if Clinton had done his job in th 90s.

And as for Obama, all he did was sign a piece of paper. Give our intel group and the SEALS the credit.
 

Thump553

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This would be a moot point if Clinton had done his job in th 90s.

And as for Obama, all he did was sign a piece of paper. Give our intel group and the SEALS the credit.

Clinton did send in cruise missiles after OBL and got roundly scoured by the GOP as a "Wag The Dog" ploy for doing so (i.e., creating a false crisis to deflect attention away from the Lewinski hummer impeachment).
 

irishScott

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Obama expressly contacted Bush on this. He was President during 9/11, he deserves to say something. I know you're more angsty for Bush than a teenage hippie, but what he said here is perfectly appropriate. Deal with it.
 

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werepossum

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Obama expressly contacted Bush on this. He was President during 9/11, he deserves to say something. I know you're more angsty for Bush than a teenage hippie, but what he said here is perfectly appropriate. Deal with it.
Agreed, but Obama deserves his credit. He's pushed Pakistan and taken heat for the same unilateralism he criticized in Bush. Since he made the decision and took the heat for two years, he deserves his moment of strutting in the sun. This is one time his "I love me some me" speech was wholly justified. I'm proud of him and I'm hardly an Obama fanboy.

Beyond that, Presidents get credit and blame for everything that happens during their watch. Giving Obama credit for nailing Usama makes more sense than blaming him for high gas prices.
 

ProfJohn

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Infohawk

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Partisan hack is partisan hack. Good thing GWB and BHO are not foaming-at-the-mouth idiots like so many on this board.
 

crisscross

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Whether he wanted to kill Osama or not, truth is if he hadn't expanded the war on terror and concentrated on Afghanistan and Pakistan instead of going into Iraq OBL would have been dead long ago.
 

CallMeJoe

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Whether he wanted to kill Osama or not, truth is if he hadn't expanded the war on terror and concentrated on Afghanistan and Pakistan instead of going into Iraq OBL would have been dead long ago.
Might have been...

As rational as I find the criticism of the Bush administration for losing focus on al Qaeda to rush to war in Iraq, bagging Osama bin Laden was never a sure thing.
 
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