George Bush and Tony Blair found guilty of war crimes in tribunal

[Lemon law]

The question is and remains, will Bush and Blair ever get arrested and sent to jail by any existing world government?

We have threads on this very subject in the past, but now for the first time in world history, the government of Malaysia has laid the formal foundation to make such an arrest into a legitimate possibility.

And now every time Bush and Blair engage in international travel internationally, there is a small but finite possibility they may face arrest, and find themselves then transported to the Hague or to other international war crimes venues.

As to other smaller fries, like Chaney, Rumsfeld, Rice, they too may face scrutiny, but the largest share of a war crime blame falls on the leaders who authorized it. Their underlings then become secondary but equally important considerations.

I still may be skeptical that that such a arrest and prosecution will ever follow, but the judgment of history is likely to be, that Blair and GWB caused more Iraqi deaths to Saddam Hussein ever did. And for that matter, Obama and Netanyuhu may be added to the docket. If various terrorist leaders are added in too, putting them all away in iron cages for life, would make the world a better place. They are all turds of common feather, who share the same creed, the use of violence, torture and mass murder, should be swiftly punished.

 

[glenn1]

And now every time Bush and Blair engage in international travel internationally, there is a small but finite possibility they may face arrest, and find themselves then transported to the Hague or to other international war crimes venues.

Keep up with your masturbatory fantasies. He went Canada last month, is going to Africa next month, and nothing will happen to him then or anytime else. Just because you on the left disagreed with his legitimate policy choices during his term doesn't make him a war criminal any more than the Birthers demanding a "long form birth certificate" makes Obama not a natural born citizen. Hell, if you ever wanted to indict a President for deceiving the country into war acts it would be LBJ for the Gulf of Tonkin incident.

 

[cybrsage]

We have threads on this very subject in the past, but now for the first time in world history, the government of Malaysia has laid the formal foundation to make such an arrest into a legitimate possibility.

This had nothing to do with the government of Malaysia. It was a self appointed non political body of citizens who decided they are guilty. Their entire purpose for getting together was to come to this predetermined conclusion.

It has as much governmental power as the OWS non-bathers have.

 

[cybrsage]

Would it had made any difference if it was a governmental organization?

Maybe, depending on their methodology used.

 

[ShawnD1]

There goes Bush's trip to Malaysia with the Cheney's. I am sure Cheney wont let his ticket go to waste.

Are you suggesting Cheney is a pedophile who goes there for the child prostitution? Good ol' Malaysia. Come for the child prostitutes, stay for the other child prostitutes.

 

[Zebo]

Dude it's fucking Malaysia. Study their human rights records. That would be like Nazi Germany finding FDR guilty of war crimes.

Not only that, We may not agree with our president, I sure didn't - but you'll have a hell of a time taking him from us. Any president.

 

[Zebo]

The question is and remains, will Bush and Blair ever get arrested and sent to jail by any existing world government?

We have threads on this very subject in the past, but now for the first time in world history, the government of Malaysia has laid the formal foundation to make such an arrest into a legitimate possibility.

And now every time Bush and Blair engage in international travel internationally, there is a small but finite possibility they may face arrest, and find themselves then transported to the Hague or to other international war crimes venues.

As to other smaller fries, like Chaney, Rumsfeld, Rice, they too may face scrutiny, but the largest share of a war crime blame falls on the leaders who authorized it. Their underlings then become secondary but equally important considerations.

I still may be skeptical that that such a arrest and prosecution will ever follow, but the judgment of history is likely to be, that Blair and GWB caused more Iraqi deaths to Saddam Hussein ever did. And for that matter, Obama and Netanyuhu may be added to the docket. If various terrorist leaders are added in too, putting them all away in iron cages for life, would make the world a better place. They are all turds of common feather, who share the same creed, the use of violence, torture and mass murder, should be swiftly punished.

Sorry we air our dirty laundry at home not in public. Anyone tried anything with one of our former presidents would be getting cruise missiles non stop.

 

[blankslate]

Sorry we air our dirty laundry at home not in public. Anyone tried anything with one of our former presidents would be getting cruise missiles non stop.

That's the tragedy of this situation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLG66ER0UUM

"Now you can join the ranks of the illustrious
In history's great dark hall of fame
All our greatest killers were industrious
At least the ones that we all know by name

But you can reach the top of your profession
If you become the leader of the land
For murder is the sport of the elected
And you don't need to lift a finger of your hand

Because it's murder by numbers, one, two, three
It's as easy to learn as your ABC"

Sad but true....

 

[peonyu]

The question is and remains, will Bush and Blair ever get arrested and sent to jail by any existing world government?

We have threads on this very subject in the past, but now for the first time in world history, the government of Malaysia has laid the formal foundation to make such an arrest into a legitimate possibility.

And now every time Bush and Blair engage in international travel internationally, there is a small but finite possibility they may face arrest, and find themselves then transported to the Hague or to other international war crimes venues.

As to other smaller fries, like Chaney, Rumsfeld, Rice, they too may face scrutiny, but the largest share of a war crime blame falls on the leaders who authorized it. Their underlings then become secondary but equally important considerations.

I still may be skeptical that that such a arrest and prosecution will ever follow, but the judgment of history is likely to be, that Blair and GWB caused more Iraqi deaths to Saddam Hussein ever did. And for that matter, Obama and Netanyuhu may be added to the docket. If various terrorist leaders are added in too, putting them all away in iron cages for life, would make the world a better place. They are all turds of common feather, who share the same creed, the use of violence, torture and mass murder, should be swiftly punished.

They never will be arrested since they are protected by the Governments that dominate the world. Even Caesar was immune to being tried for his crimes against the German and English tribes. The only exception in his case was assassination, but luckily for us, Presidents dont rule forever. So no one will care to try that on Bush or Blair.

 

[cybrsage]

Especially considering this was a group of private citizens who met with the sole intention of finding them guilty. Their findings are meaningless.

 

[Nemesis 1]

I LOL @ these efforts, just as I LOL @ OWS. You can't take down monsters - especially those who are supported by monsters who are just as evil, if not more; and that is the general American public.

Most Americans seem indifferent to the death of Arabs. Some, like posters in this thread, are downplaying or dismissing the death count. It turns out 1 innocent death is equal to 100,000 innocent deaths; and, they do not value either or.

It's the ultimate hypocratic message of American life; value freedom and peace - but, only our freedom and peace. If an Arab is shot and killed in error by Americans, well, blame the terrorists. If an Arab and his family is blown to bits by an American bomb, well, blame the terrorists. If an Arab woman is raped by American soldiers, well, blame the terrorists.

These efforts of a tribunal fall on the same ears that are connected to the same mouth that dismisses the plight of the Iraqis.

It's almost on the same mental wavelength as the white man's burden.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_White_Man's_Burden

What do you expect from liars cowards and theives?

 

[blackangst1]

They never will be arrested since they are protected by the Governments that dominate the world. Even Caesar was immune to being tried for his crimes against the German and English tribes. The only exception in his case was assassination, but luckily for us, Presidents dont rule forever. So no one will care to try that on Bush or Blair.

No, they wont be arrested because no government has found them guilty of anything.

So a 7 person private panel, incapable of any enforcement, has found them guilty. These 7 yahoos have about as much authority to enforce anything as 7 random people on the street.

/yawn

 

[cybrsage]

What do you expect from liars cowards and theives?

I expect them to form a 7 man council and find world leaders guilty of crimes they did not commit. Not surprisingly, that is what they did.

What do you expect from them?

 

[Nemesis 1]

Dude it's fucking Malaysia. Study their human rights records. That would be like Nazi Germany finding FDR guilty of war crimes.

Not only that, We may not agree with our president, I sure didn't - but you'll have a hell of a time taking him from us. Any president.

Ya there human rights isn't good . But what about America. and Its Native people . The Jews here in America helped to commit genocide on these people one of Israels own tribe. Jews don't care about the other 11 tribes . Only Judea and the Jews . Who call anyone excepting their faith jews. Such as Kazar jews. The Jews only lost 6 million in world war II and the world cried . Why because they have money and power . Yet Americans will fight and die and may cause World War III for these people . Till america makes it right with the indians they be nothing but liars in the hands of Jewish Banksters. I stand with the Jew but I know the Jew he is ugly bastard.

 

[Nemesis 1]

I expect them to form a 7 man council and find world leaders guilty of crimes they did not commit. Not surprisingly, that is what they did.

What do you expect from them?

If you think the lies that got us into Iraq were not criminal your part of the problem

 

[cybrsage]

Ummm....you are claiming the American Indians are an Israelite Tribe? That is dumb. The American Indians are genetically related to the peoples of Asia and not the Semetic peoples.

But it is easier to blame the Jews for everything, eh? All the cool kids do it...

 

[WelshBloke]

Ummm....you are claiming the American Indians are an Israelite Tribe? That is dumb. The American Indians are genetically related to the peoples of Asia and not the Semetic peoples.

But it is easier to blame the Jews for everything, eh? All the cool kids do it...

Don't...Go...There...

 

[badb0y]

I say if you don't like it get the fuck out of the USA. Thats pretty much my statement for everything. GTFOIYDLI.

That goes against what this country was created on.

 

[CrazyHelloDeli]

How quaint.

 

[xj0hnx]

If I remember right, Iraq Body Count only counts those deaths they can corroborate from at least two independent public sources. Given that many Iraqi deaths are never reported anywhere, by their own admission they under-count the number of actual deaths. That's not saying the actual death toll is over a million, but it is certainly more than Iraq Body Count's official figures.

Right, deaths that can be proven, not some fanciful, astronomical number spit out for emotional value.

 

[cybrsage]

If you think the lies that got us into Iraq were not criminal your part of the problem

Sigh....the myth that will not die...

A lie is when you say something you know is not true. The CIA, MI6, and the GRU all said the same thing...they all said Saddam had WMDs. Hans Blix also said he found WMDs in his last report to the UN prior to the invasion.

Any rational person would have said Saddam had WMDs.

The issue is that it all turned out to be wrong. Saddam had a very good misinformation campaign going on, and it fooled the best intelligence services on the planet.

They did not lie...they were wrong. There is a big difference between the two.


I suppose I should not be surprised to see this thinking from someone who claims the American Indians are an Israelite tribe.

 

[GoPackGo]

I wonder if these nuts will do the same to Obama...

 

[GoPackGo]

Sigh....the myth that will not die...

A lie is when you say something you know is not true. The CIA, MI6, and the GRU all said the same thing...they all said Saddam had WMDs. Hans Blix also said he found WMDs in his last report to the UN prior to the invasion.

Any rational person would have said Saddam had WMDs.

The issue is that it all turned out to be wrong. Saddam had a very good misinformation campaign going on, and it fooled the best intelligence services on the planet.

They did not lie...they were wrong. There is a big difference between the two.


I suppose I should not be surprised to see this thinking from someone who claims the American Indians are an Israelite tribe.

Saddam wanted everyone to think he had WMDs...There were enough puzzle pieces found that led me to believe that he could have started up production at a moments notice for chemical weapons.