Genocide in Sudan, why is noone talking about it?

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Strk

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Originally posted by: realsup
People here are not talking about it because it is just Christians being killed. The religion of peace are only killing them because they deserve it.

You're thinking in Southern Sudan, not Darfur.
 

MadRat

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Yeah, he doesn't account for the arab on black and black on arab genocide.

Both sides are homicidal in this case. That is why we need the AU to mature to a full-fledged alliance.
 

raildogg

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Originally posted by: MadRat
Yeah, he doesn't account for the arab on black and black on arab genocide.

Both sides are homicidal in this case. That is why we need the AU to mature to a full-fledged alliance.

Its Arab on black genocide. The janjoweed Arabs are committing genocide against blacks.
 

Strk

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Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: MadRat
Yeah, he doesn't account for the arab on black and black on arab genocide.

Both sides are homicidal in this case. That is why we need the AU to mature to a full-fledged alliance.

Its Arab on black genocide. The janjoweed Arabs are committing genocide against blacks.

That's how it is being portrayed by a few news sources, but if you look at a few pictures of it, there's one thing you'll probably say: which one's which?
 

Zebo

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Originally posted by: Genx87
? Kofi Annan has had his chances and blown two genocides from his own backyard.
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Kofi lives in Sweden.
 

MadRat

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The Janjaween are both black and arab; the term is generic for the mercenaries that roam Darfur. There are different Janjaween groups, numbering almost two dozen different groups. The arab on black genocide is what you hear about most. But JEM and SLA, together normally referred to as SLM, have slaughtered government workers and soldiers to the same extent.

The point is it needs to stop.
 

raildogg

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Originally posted by: Zebo
Originally posted by: Genx87
? Kofi Annan has had his chances and blown two genocides from his own backyard.
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Kofi lives in Sweden.

Again, which shows the UN is worthless. Pointless. Meaningless.

People here will blame the USA for this genocide, which is beyond me, but again, all of the worlds problems are caused by USA. Bad America bad.

Lets kick the UN out of New York, it just increases traffic and the parking tickets are a huge mess.

Whats the point of the UN anyway? Just a big waste of money. All talk, no action.

Its just a huge debating society.
 
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Originally posted by: beyoku
ditto, same thing under clinton watch, 1 over 1 million people killed in under 100 days. - not a peep. people dont care about this. American lives are worth more than Iraqi, and you probably have to take 10 africans to = 1 iraqi.

*I* don't know why we don't get more involved, but I can tell you that I don't think for a minute that someone's life is valued based on their country of origin or the color of their skin or their sexual preferences.

As far as I am concerned, when we find this sort of thing happening in the world we should strike at the perpetrators INSTANTLY and without any mercy whatsoever.

Jason
 
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Originally posted by: Brackis
NO...go back and reread what I said... Stop putting words in my mouth
Since we pay for 26% of their budget means we should be pushing the UN, the international community, and providing troops and aid to save the people of Sudan who are being killed. Just because you don't like Koffi Anan doesn't give you the excuse to not help dying Sudanese

Tell it to Kofi. The man doesn't give a DAMN about people billing murdered by their own governments. Most of the UN doesn't, and it's no surprise given that most of them are Socialist or Communist in government. Why the hell would an organization membered mostly by tyrants want to set a precedent of stopping tyrants?

Jason
 
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Originally posted by: magomago
Horrible. The government should die and rot. Though honestly I would think blacks are EASILY the majority in Sudan...I mean hell Sudan mean "Country/Land of Blacks" in arabic!

This is another example of the UN being a failed organization. One of the scuttlebutt rumors is Kofi Annan is worried the Arab pact will vote to oust him as the leader of the UN if he puts his foot down on an Arab govt committing genocide on non-arabs.
I doubt that. The problem is a lack of vested interests in Sudan.

No, the problem is a lack of sincerity in the proclamation that we uphold the rights of individuals as precious.

Jason
 

Czar

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Originally posted by: raildogg
Its just a huge debating society.

thats a big part of the reason its there
tell me, how many nation to nation wars have there been since the founding of the UN?
 

0roo0roo

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well its there to prevent world wars, not as some beacon of morality and human rights. best not to forget that.
 

raildogg

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Originally posted by: Czar
Originally posted by: raildogg
Its just a huge debating society.

thats a big part of the reason its there
tell me, how many nation to nation wars have there been since the founding of the UN?

Plenty.

And how many genocides?

Three.

Also, don't tell me UN prevents wars. Sure didn't prevent the first Desert Storm, Iran-Iraq war, couple of Israel-Arab wars, US-Vietnam, 3 India vs Pakistan wars. Has the UN prevented Russia from killing Chechnyan men? NO. Thats why you see so many female chechnyan terrorists, they are seeking revenge for their husbands who were killed for no apparent reason.

There are many more conflicts which resulted in a lot of deaths while the UN was, once again, debating.

Tyrants around the world could care less what the UN says. Its just words, no action.