Genetically engineered corn causes low birth weight in mice

[Joepublic2]

You people are so ignorant. No one has ever talked about using GM corn for the food supply. It is primarily used as feed for cattle. Also, fields that are planted with GM corn for this use are required to be a minimum distance from an non GM corn plots. Do you really think that all the corn you see from the highways when driving through the Midwest is grown for human consumption? Its not since you cannot grow human food supply corn that close to a roadway. Food supply corn is still grown under very stringent guidelines.

That website and study are so ridiculously biased I cannot believe you posted that with a straight face.

You do realize that GM corn is no different than corn which could occur naturally. These companies do nothing to the corn that couldn't occur naturally through breeding and a lot of generations. They simply insert the genes rather than waiting forever to either breed them in or go out and find a wild type with the gene of interest.

You anti GM folk are ignorant as fuck. (For the purposes of full disclosure, I have worked at two GM companies and am currently employed at one.)

Yeah, no way that food that food eats can effect me.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bioaccumulation

And we have been selectively breeding food forever, but that's not in any way the same as direct genetic insertion which I suspect you realize and are being disingenuous. You yourself just admitted that it is different from corn that occurs naturally without "waiting forever" for these genes to be incorporated through sexual integration.

And even if they are perfectly safe to eat (which remains to be proven; the burden of proof is on these companies and they have yet to satisfy it in much of the public's opinion), they could still send unforeseen, negative ripples through the greater ecosystem as seen in how some GM crops are negatively affecting pollinators, which is something nobody predicted.

 

[Ninjahedge]

You try to put something that does not jive into a gene strain and you end up with one dead plant/critter/person.

People seem to think that genetic engineering is something from the movies, creating fish people or demon spawn.

Please, before we get ANOTHER hypothesis on the possible horrors that this corn strain could produce, can we all just find reputable sources of information to present the case for or against?

Seems like all we are getting is fear mongering. Maybe we should just stop all possible advances. Who needs a cure for cancer if you have to change our genome, right?

 

[Joepublic2]

You try to put something that does not jive into a gene strain and you end up with one dead plant/critter/person.

People seem to think that genetic engineering is something from the movies, creating fish people or demon spawn.

Please, before we get ANOTHER hypothesis on the possible horrors that this corn strain could produce, can we all just find reputable sources of information to present the case for or against?

Seems like all we are getting is fear mongering. Maybe we should just stop all possible advances. Who needs a cure for cancer if you have to change our genome, right?

No, the burden of proof is on the people trying to get us to eat this stuff. Prove it's safe.

 

[jackschmittusa]

Ninjahedge

"You try to put something that does not jive into a gene strain and you end up with one dead plant/critter/person."

Wrong!

You really don't keep up with this subject do you?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7681252...s/t/scientists-create-animals-are-part-human/

 

[Ninjahedge]

No, the burden of proof is on the people trying to get us to eat this stuff. Prove it's safe.

OMG, no.

You think they just release this stuff?


"booga booga" now go hide under your bed.

 

[Ninjahedge]

Ninjahedge

"You try to put something that does not jive into a gene strain and you end up with one dead plant/critter/person."

Wrong!

You really don't keep up with this subject do you?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7681252...s/t/scientists-create-animals-are-part-human/

You really do not know much about genetics, do you.

MSNBC? Go and take a look at the variance of genetic sequencing present between even radically different species of mammal.

What is it, 1% different? 2%?

You put something that does not jive, chances are VERY high that the organism will no longer jive.

 

[Joepublic2]

OMG, no.

You think they just release this stuff?


"booga booga" now go hide under your bed.

Blah, blah, no proof. Put up or shut up.

 

[SandEagle]

Farmer feeds GMO corn to his pigs: they all become sterile
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eilDbdLAyFs

 

[dank69]

Farmer feeds GMO corn to his pigs: they all become sterile
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eilDbdLAyFs

So 11 hours 20 minutes ago...

 

[jackschmittusa]

Ninjahedge

2% or more just for chimps.

Jellyfish and rhesus macaque genes in a cat seems to be a wide disparity:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...-prevent-aids/2011/09/12/gIQAdq89MK_blog.html

There are many more examples if you want to look.

 

[glenn1]

Mice given a mixture of GE corn, and non-GE corn gave birth to smaller litters, and the baby mice weighed less then normal.

http://www.greenpeace.org/india/en/news/no-need-for-condoms-ge-corn/

When the GE corn was removed from the diet, birth weights and litter size returned to normal.



With so many hybrid types of food, why do we need genetically engineered products? Are the food products as safe as the companies claim they are?

Because another cause of low birth rates and weight loss is starvation. GM crops would be a boon for Africa and other poor locales where farming conditions are sub-optimal and food calories of any kind would be a good thing, from GM crops or not.

 

[dmcowen674]

Genetically engineered corn causes low birth weight in mice

Mice given a mixture of GE corn, and non-GE corn gave birth to smaller litters, and the baby mice weighed less then normal.

http://www.greenpeace.org/india/en/news/no-need-for-condoms-ge-corn/

When the GE corn was removed from the diet, birth weights and litter size returned to normal.

With so many hybrid types of food, why do we need genetically engineered products? Are the food products as safe as the companies claim they are?

How dare you question the almighty Corporations.

 

[Fenixgoon]

was a cause actually proven, or was there a correlation made?

correlation != causation

 

[CADsortaGUY]

good to know xbiffx is on the corn case here so I can move to Wisconsin and not have to keep up to date on it all. It's been brutal to try to get people to understand ethanol and such over the years but now I don't need to spend the time.... except that many plastics are now corn plastics...