Gene Hackman dead at 95 (but there's more)

[GodisanAtheist]

I think we already have too much anecdotal evidence based beliefs going on right at the top these days, thank you.

- Ah the old "Trust me bro" school of medicine

 

[igor_kavinski]

kinda hard when you have to manage blood sugar too.

Stay away from bars with sugar. There are diabetic friendly bars available. Most good dark chocolate bars aren't very sweet anyway since they interfere with the enjoyable taste (once you get used to it).

 

[igor_kavinski]

- Ah the old "Trust me bro" school of medicine

I never say "trust me". There's research out there that you can look up and an interview of one of the oldest living ladies (I think she died at 115 or something) who used to regularly eat a pound of chocolate per week with port wine.

 

[Muse]

I never say "trust me". There's research out there that you can look up and an interview of one of the oldest living ladies (I think she died at 115 or something) who used to regularly eat a pound of chocolate per week with port wine.

I have sipped from a cup of port wine once in my life. It was so disgustingly sweet I have never approached another.

 

[igor_kavinski]

I have sipped from a cup of port wine once in my life. It was so disgustingly sweet I have never approached another.

Hey, maybe there's a pattern to be noticed here regarding longevity?



Once a person reaches a certain age (past 50 or 60), I guess the quality of food doesn't matter that much? Or maybe it's because the brain is so satisfied by these foodgasms that it sends out some signal to the organs, "Hey! Don't you dare die on me! I need these sugary foodgasms to keep coming!".

 

[Muse]

Hey, maybe there's a pattern to be noticed here regarding longevity?

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Once a person reaches a certain age (past 50 or 60), I guess the quality of food doesn't matter that much? Or maybe it's because the brain is so satisfied by these foodgasms that it sends out some signal to the organs, "Hey! Don't you dare die on me! I need these sugary foodgasms to keep coming!".

Buffett is a sample of one. There are lots of extremely old people who say they eat or drink things that are regarded as bad for one's health. Does that mean that people are smart to eat or drink just anything they care to? Only a fool or an idiot would make that conclusion. Buffett has benefitted from modern medicine and he's rich enough to afford the best medical care available at the drop of a hat.

BTW, last time I drank Coca Cola I didn't like it at all and didn't finish it.

 

[igor_kavinski]

Does that mean that people are smart to eat or drink just anything they care to?

No but I think there's a psychological aspect to it. If what you are eating makes you happy, it probably has an overall positive effect on longevity. It just so happens that the brains of most people seem to be hardwired to like sugar a lot. Maybe because that's one of the first edible things they enjoyed and eating sugary food in old age takes them back to their childhood memories of happiness?

 

[hal2kilo]

No but I think there's a psychological aspect to it. If what you are eating makes you happy, it probably has an overall positive effect on longevity. It just so happens that the brains of most people seem to be hardwired to like sugar a lot. Maybe because that's one of the first edible things they enjoyed and eating sugary food in old age takes them back to their childhood memories of happiness?

The introduction of white cane sugar is probably on of the worst dietary things plaguing the world. But it sure makes for high energy soldier food. Imagine living before that stuff was around. Honey to some extent, probably some concentrated fruit extractions. Of course barley sugar for the stuff that brought man out the the hunter gatherer stage, into agriculture, to make beer.

 

[brycejones]

Hey, maybe there's a pattern to be noticed here regarding longevity?

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Once a person reaches a certain age (past 50 or 60), I guess the quality of food doesn't matter that much? Or maybe it's because the brain is so satisfied by these foodgasms that it sends out some signal to the organs, "Hey! Don't you dare die on me! I need these sugary foodgasms to keep coming!".

Good genes

 

[uallas5]

Buffett is a sample of one. There are lots of extremely old people who say they eat or drink things that are regarded as bad for one's health. Does that mean that people are smart to eat or drink just anything they care to? Only a fool or an idiot would make that conclusion.

I've met a number of elderly people who swear by something they ate or drank every day being what kept them alive, like the stereotypical little old Irish lady I met in hospital once who swore by her daily dram of whisky. Like bryce said, it's really just good genes.

Of course, I remember reading a newspaper article when I lived in Scotland about an 85-year-old North Sea fisherman who still went out on the ocean at dawn every day. He attributed his longevity to drinking a pint of sea water daily that was strained through an old, wool sock, so there is that if anyone wants to try.

 

[Muse]

The introduction of white cane sugar is probably on of the worst dietary things plaguing the world. But it sure makes for high energy soldier food. Imagine living before that stuff was around. Honey to some extent, probably some concentrated fruit extractions. Of course barley sugar for the stuff that brought man out the the hunter gatherer stage, into agriculture, to make beer.

Consuming excessive amounts of sugar, especially processed foods and sugary drinks, is linked to:

• Obesity: Excess sugar can lead to weight gain and obesity.
  
  
• Type 2 Diabetes: High sugar intake increases the risk of developing insulin resistance and type 2 diabetes.
  
  
• Heart Disease: High sugar intake can contribute to increased blood pressure, high triglycerides, and inflammation, all risk factors for heart disease.
  
  
• Fatty Liver Disease: Excessive fructose (a type of sugar) consumption has been linked to the development of non-alcoholic fatty liver disease.

Sugar famously causes dental cavities. I told my dentist of many years about my sometimes eating one of those Lindt truffles at bedtime and he told me it was a bad idea because saliva secretion in the mouth slows down considerably when you sleep. The candy against your teeth will feed the bacteria that work on your enamel.

Depending on sugary treats to elevate one's mood is symptomatic of psychological problems. Same goes for drugs, alcohol and a wide swath of addictions of all kinds, some worse than others, of course.

 

[Muse]

I remember reading a newspaper article when I lived in Scotland about an 85-year-old North Sea fisherman who still went out on the ocean at dawn every day. He attributed his longevity to drinking a pint of sea water daily that was strained through an old, wool sock, so there is that if anyone wants to try.

So many stupid people in the world and it's sad that as people get older they tend to say more stupid shit. Elderly people do not have to lose their wits or become stupid. But most do, often largely because they weren't very smart to begin with..

If people ask me how I have stayed so strong and healthy I'm going to tell them it's because I dedicated myself to doing so, not some stupid trope like downing a shot of whiskey at bedtime.

 

[Muse]

Consuming excessive amounts of sugar, especially processed foods and sugary drinks, is linked to:

• Obesity: Excess sugar can lead to weight gain and obesity.
  
  
• Type 2 Diabetes: High sugar intake increases the risk of developing insulin resistance and type 2 diabetes.
  
  
• Heart Disease: High sugar intake can contribute to increased blood pressure, high triglycerides, and inflammation, all risk factors for heart disease.
  
  
• Fatty Liver Disease: Excessive fructose (a type of sugar) consumption has been linked to the development of non-alcoholic fatty liver disease.

Sugar famously causes dental cavities. I told my dentist of many years about my sometimes eating one of those Lindt truffles at bedtime and he told me it was a bad idea because saliva secretion in the mouth slows down considerably when you sleep. The candy against your teeth will feed the bacteria that work on your enamel.

Depending on sugary treats to elevate one's mood is symptomatic of psychological problems. Same goes for drugs, alcohol and a wide swath of addictions of all kinds, some worse than others, of course.

Yes, studies have shown that excessive sugar consumption can contribute to inflammation in the body.

How Sugar Causes Inflammation:

• Increased Insulin Levels:
  Sugar raises blood sugar levels, which triggers the release of insulin. High insulin levels can promote inflammation.
  
  
• Advanced Glycation End Products (AGEs):
  When sugar combines with proteins in the body, it forms AGEs, which are inflammatory compounds.
  
  
• Oxidative Stress:
  Sugar can increase oxidative stress, which is a state of imbalance between free radicals and antioxidants. Oxidative stress can damage cells and trigger inflammation.
  
  
• • Immune Activation:
    Sugar can activate the immune system, leading to the production of inflammatory cytokines.

Health Effects of Sugar-Induced Inflammation:

Chronic inflammation caused by excessive sugar consumption can contribute to a number of health problems, including:

Heart disease, Diabetes, Arthritis, Autoimmune disorders, and Obesity.

Reducing Sugar Intake:

To reduce inflammation caused by sugar, it is important to limit sugar intake. This can be achieved by:

• • Reducing consumption of sugary drinks, such as soda and juice
  • Avoiding processed foods that contain high amounts of sugar
  • Choosing whole fruits over sugary snacks
  • Moderating consumption of sugary desserts

It is also important to note that not all sugars are equal. Natural sugars found in fruits and vegetables are less likely to cause inflammation than refined sugars, such as white sugar and high fructose corn syrup.
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CocaColonization refers to the globalization of American culture pushed through popular American products such as the soft-drink brand Coca-Cola.

 

[Muse]

This video is pretty interesting, ignore the "he killed her" bit, that pertains to his mother's reaction when he enlisted in the Marines at age 16 (he lied about his age). She was unhappy about that. This paints Gene Hackman as a man who struggled with inner demons and remained aloof, didn't fit in, didn't retire so much as shrink into an obscurity he created for himself.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

I've met a number of elderly people who swear by something they ate or drank every day being what kept them alive, like the stereotypical little old Irish lady I met in hospital once who swore by her daily dram of whisky. Like bryce said, it's really just good genes.

Of course, I remember reading a newspaper article when I lived in Scotland about an 85-year-old North Sea fisherman who still went out on the ocean at dawn every day. He attributed his longevity to drinking a pint of sea water daily that was strained through an old, wool sock, so there is that if anyone wants to try.

It's also just luck of the draw if you miss out on those high energy particles that knock your DNA out of alignment.

There's tons of things you can do that generally help your body, but we haven't found that secret whatsit other than 'don't eat so much of any one thing, lay off the sugar, move more'.

 

[igor_kavinski]

There's tons of things you can do that generally help your body, but we haven't found that secret whatsit other than 'don't eat so much of any one thing, lay off the sugar, move more'.

It's not really a secret that oxygen kills us slowly through reactive oxygen species (aka free radicals) created in our blood. That's also why people at high altitudes are generally healthier and stronger because they are exposed to less oxygen.

 

[WilliamM2]

This video is pretty interesting, ignore the "he killed her" bit, that pertains to his mother's reaction when he enlisted in the Marines at age 16 (he lied about his age). She was unhappy about that. This paints Gene Hackman as a man who struggled with inner demons and remained aloof, didn't fit in, didn't retire so much as shrink into an obscurity he created for himself.

An AI narrated video that steals others film clips and plays them over and over? I never heard Robert Duvall say anything, let alone reveal anything.

 

[Muse]

An AI narrated video that steals others film clips and plays them over and over? I never heard Robert Duvall say anything, let alone reveal anything.

You may be right. Then again, the premise seems plausible enough to me that Hackman resisted getting close to people.

The cover shot is reprehensible in that it appears to suggest he killed his wife, which the video does not say! Actually it says he saddened his mother when he enlisted in the Marines is what the video said. Yeah, it may be trash.

Edit: Looking up Duvall and Hackman, AI, in part, said this:

Friendship today

• • Duvall and Hackman remain close friends today.
  • Duvall has spoken about Hackman's self-destructive nature and on-set clashes.

 

[hal2kilo]

It's also just luck of the draw if you miss out on those high energy particles that knock your DNA out of alignment.

There's tons of things you can do that generally help your body, but we haven't found that secret whatsit other than 'don't eat so much of any one thing, lay off the sugar, move more'.

Lot of things have been identified that makes cancer more probable, but the bulk of it is still just plain damn luck.

 

[igor_kavinski]

Lot of things have been identified that makes cancer more probable, but the bulk of it is still just plain damn luck.

About that.

Some CT scans may have too much radiation, researchers say

The imaging tool used to diagnose bone injuries, cancer and other diseases may expose patients to unnecessarily high radiation doses.

www.nbcnews.com

Seems there is no standard way of calibrating these expensive machines for radiation amount.

 

[hal2kilo]

About that.

Some CT scans may have too much radiation, researchers say

The imaging tool used to diagnose bone injuries, cancer and other diseases may expose patients to unnecessarily high radiation doses.

www.nbcnews.com

Seems there is no standard way of calibrating these expensive machines for radiation amount.

That usually the job of the hospital nuclear physicist. At least when I worked at in the Biomedical Engineering department of a major teaching hospital in Evanston Il way back in the late 70's.

 

[igor_kavinski]

That usually the job of the hospital nuclear physicist. At least when I worked at in the Biomedical Engineering department of a major teaching hospital in Evanston Il way back in the late 70's.

Back then, people actually cared and were more responsible. The young people these days, on the other hand...

Also, don't think hospitals would retain a physicist these days just to ensure they aren't radiating their patients too much. You know, every buck counts