I'd say she's a little slut and should know better. 15 is plenty old to know the difference between right and wrong........
17 and 15 shouldn't be illegal. The kid was railroaded because he was black, plain and simple.
If he was White, he would've never been prosecuted.
SearchMaster
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This is true, most don't. Even though judges hate to admit it, the Georgia Constitution apparently explicitly allows for, and encourages, jury nullification.
Whether or not it's "right" or "wrong", this is the norm in high school and I don't think it justifies a prision term.
That's a difficult question to answer, and it's one that Im not sure about. But regarding my opinion for this specific case, the only thing I find disturbing other that the prision term is the obvious lack of parental influence these kids had.
Kids enter high school at 14 I think and they leave high school at 18. It's really hard to determine what ages would be acceptable. If it was my fifteen year old daughter (I dont have kids BTW), Id be pissed off, and very dissapointed in my daughter and even in myself for not teaching her better. But I wouldnt pursue legal action against a 17 year old boy.
Wrong. The Michigan law has been on records for a long time, and nobody has been convicted of adultery since 1971.
What has happened, is an antiquated law has been brought to light. That's it.
My only question: why hasn't the Governor pardoned him? Takes care of the problem in a matter of hours.
/skims thread
So what I'm seeing here is that a 17-year-old got some dome from a 15-year-old.
They're both minors. Both consenting. Hell, there was a video camera involved.
WHERE'S THE PROBLEM?
If every high school couple that got their freak on was treated like this, the streets would be empty. Pardon in Aisle Five, please. Pardon in Aisle Five.
- M4H
So what I'm seeing here is that a 17-year-old got some dome from a 15-year-old.
They're both minors. Both consenting. Hell, there was a video camera involved.
WHERE'S THE PROBLEM?
If every high school couple that got their freak on was treated like this, the streets would be empty. Pardon in Aisle Five, please. Pardon in Aisle Five.
- M4H
Wow... talk about some self-righteousness. Guess what, he was 18. The kid didn't make that decision thinking long-term. What parent tells their kid, "Now Billy, be careful, you let a girl suck you off and your life is pretty much over."????
How can you blame him? This is a small mistake, and his life is over. As a registered sex offender, he will have serious trouble ever getting a job again, and even though he was a smart kid with a bright future, he'll likely never go to college. That's fair for one blow job?
Seriously, I've seen you on here for years and I've never read anything more ignorant from you. He was EIGHTEEN! Sh1t, the kid's hormones are so high at that age, he'll gladly stick it in anything wet, you're right. If you're going to judge him for drinking and letting his judgment get impaired, then you should stop posting on here and go hand out bibles on college campuses like the rest of the bible beaters because at least 80% of high school kids drink, and most of the males in that group would have done the same thing given the same situation.
Yeah, but if he takes the deal, he goes back out into public and the issue goes away. If he fights it and stays in prison, there's the chance that someone in the Georgia Government that finally steps up and does the right thing, and then he can live his life WITHOUT being a registered sex offender.
I realize it's a tough choice to make, but I wouldn't want to have the "registered sex offender" label on me the rest of my life.
I have a 15-year-old sister, who's currently dating a 17-year-old senior in his final year, and IIRC he'll probably turn 18 before they break up. (He's going to college, it's going to happen.
)I informed him in no uncertain terms that legal action wouldn't be occuring; however, if I found out she was forced to do anything she didn't want to, there would be illegal repercussions of an epic level.
- M4H
First of all, I'm surprised you know the term but don't know how it's applied. If someone did something that is NOW illegal can't be charged for something that wasn't illegal when they did it. You CAN, however, make something legal or a lesser charge retroactively.
As for political suicide, NOBODY WAS HURT! The girl and her mom admit that she was doing it consensually. She might have been hurt before the incident which led her to allow all those guys to do that to her, but this incident was something she agreed to. I'm not saying it was a good idea for him to be involved, but he wasn't forcing her to do anything. Many guys had sex with her, he just had oral sex, and yet he gets the worse punishment? So why would the public come down on the Governor?
Oh I know, we all have to blame the boys because they're just looking for a hole to stick it in. YES! THEY ARE! THEY'RE BOYS! Their hormones tell them to do that. Girls are told VERY early not to let boys touch them, and she was a willing participant in this. If it was my daughter, I wouldn't do what you would clearly do... blame everyone else there. How about taking responsibility for your own actions? If she said no and they forced her into it, I'm mad. If she agrees to it, then I'm at fault for not raising my daughter right and she's at fault for letting them do it.
You can argue about a "gray line" all you want, but if you think that a 2-year difference isn't close enough to justify this being acceptable, then you're just kidding yourself. Nobody is saying, "it needs to be x years at least," but we ARE all saying that 2 is a reasonable difference, and this kid doesn't deserve this treatment.
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These laws are simply ridiculous. Giving a boy 10 years in a prison, which will turn him into a hardened criminal, is so far from being appropriate punishment its hard to even fathom.
He was 17 years old! Do you really think the average 17 year old that was with a girl that could be as close to his age as 12-13 months would stop her if she tried to give him a BJ? Hell no. In his mind, they're both high school age.
He was 17 years old! Do you really think the average 17 year old that was with a girl that could be as close to his age as 12-13 months would stop her if she tried to give him a BJ? Hell no. In his mind, they're both high school age.
Common sense FTW! Thank you M4H.Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
I have a 15-year-old sister, who's currently dating a 17-year-old senior in his final year, and IIRC he'll probably turn 18 before they break up. (He's going to college, it's going to happen.
I informed him in no uncertain terms that legal action wouldn't be occuring; however, if I found out she was forced to do anything she didn't want to, there would be illegal repercussions of an epic level.
- M4H
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