Gen. Shinseki resigns from the VA

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Sonikku

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It needed to happen. Regardless as for whether or not he was personally responsible, the fact is if you don't know what's going on in your operation then you're really not in command. As far as I am concerned, he was fired. Resigning because you're going to be fired isn't what I call ducking out with grace. It's a privilege granted for the sake of the appearance.
 

ivwshane

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But Obama is powerless, and the intel agencies don't answer to anyone in the administrative branch. Oh, yeah they do. Then there's MJ. No one has the authority to change drug scheduling in the administrative branch. Oh wait they do. Then we've heard how none of the snooping has harmed any US citizens. Oh wait, it has. But that doesn't matter to sycophants. Obama is accountable to no one. He's not going to get reelected? Yah, that's a given. That's not just him of course since virtual immunity while in office for any poor judgement is our way of doing things, so it applies to all politicians. If they rob a bank, sure. That's about what it takes, and that's a severe flaw in our system. We should at least have a no confidence mechanism for removing party power. The oblivious leading the vapid. Not the best system, a duopoly posing as a democracy.

Lol

It's pretty obvious you've stopped taking your meds. Rage on brother!!

If the founding fathers wanted quick change they would have created a system that allowed it. Thankfully they were pretty smart and had a lot of foresight not to create such a system.
 

Shlong

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Shinseki, live every other Army Chief of Staff since WWII, served a single four-year term. He didn't retire early, he wasn't forced into retirement, and Rumsfeld knew who was going to replace Shinseki a year before the troop levels comment. See the end of http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/10/08/factcheck/

Also, despite the "vindication" talk, even during the surge, Iraq troop levels didn't approach Shinseki's estimate of several hundred thousand.

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He said "hundreds of thousands" not several hundred thousand. Who knows if he meant 200,000, 300,000, or some other number.
 

Cozarkian

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He said "hundreds of thousands" not several hundred thousand. Who knows if he meant 200,000, 300,000, or some other number.

He said "several hundred thousand" not "hundreds of thousand." "Several" isn't commonly a word used when describing two of something, like two hundred thousand. By saying several, he was almost certainly suggesting closer to 300,000 and maybe a little more.

Despite the many, many news sources that quote him as saying "hundres of thousands," those articles are misleading, because it isn't what he said. Here, listen to him yourself. - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_xchyIeCQw

 
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Cozarkian

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Hayabusa Rider

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Lol

It's pretty obvious you've stopped taking your meds. Rage on brother!!

If the founding fathers wanted quick change they would have created a system that allowed it. Thankfully they were pretty smart and had a lot of foresight not to create such a system.

Ok I peeked. I figured you would out dumb yourself and you have. George Washington hit the nail on the head about political parties. In brief they suck. Unfortunately the founders didn't anticipate people like you who are dumb as a box of rocks, equating no change and no accountability with "quick change". They were smart, but they simply could not foresee sheep like you. Ok, tell us the truth here. Have you ever gotten out of your mother's basement and into the real world? Regale us once again with your expertise in... what field was it? Oh, you don't have one? Oh just to piss you off I'm not going to peek again when you respond since you never have anything worth reading. Fume on!
 

TerryMathews

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So are the questions, which as we both well know can dramatically impact the results of the survey.

These three links in now way prove your assertion.
 

ivwshane

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So basically, as more people become aware of the issue, it shifted from a majority thinking it was okay to a larger majority thinking it isn't.

Yes and as people become more aware and concerned they will vote for those with similar concerns.
 

ivwshane

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Ok I peeked. I figured you would out dumb yourself and you have. George Washington hit the nail on the head about political parties. In brief they suck. Unfortunately the founders didn't anticipate people like you who are dumb as a box of rocks, equating no change and no accountability with "quick change". They were smart, but they simply could not foresee sheep like you. Ok, tell us the truth here. Have you ever gotten out of your mother's basement and into the real world? Regale us once again with your expertise in... what field was it? Oh, you don't have one? Oh just to piss you off I'm not going to peek again when you respond since you never have anything worth reading. Fume on!

Another straw man from another mental patient not taking his meds.


Like I said folks, he's a bitch that can't handle criticism.