GeforceTony

[Gamingphreek]

This thread is ridiculous as is this:

Here's to all you A$$HOLES that flamed me (AHEM... Rollo) about overclocking my card and then trying to pull one over on XFX... SUCK ON A MONKEY'S NUT B*TCHES. I deserve an apology from you guys, and although I highly doubt that I will get one, I deserve one nonetheless. Now that I know, and I let it be known, for sure that I was not the culprit trying to "get the perfect 3DMark" I am at ease, and now maybe I will start another thread to try and get to the bottom of the different looking GPU cores that was the original purpose of this thread, and maybe no flaming...

This behavior is ridiculous and should not go unpunished. I motion for at the VERY least a strong PM if not a vacation for this loser.

-Kevin

 

[DrMrLordX]

Um . . . link to original thread, please? Maybe?

 

[KarenMarie]

Is this the same kid who did mod on his video card and them wanted to RMA it? The thread that went on for ages, with some grown up sticking up for him?

I thought he was banned.

 

[Gamingphreek]

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...atid=31&threadid=1502774&enterthread=y

Link to the thread

 

[MegaWorks]

Rollo got banned.

You have not helped anyone with anything with your seemingly endless, pointless, useless flaming. I am beyond tired of it, and I am even more tired of receiving complaints from others you offend.

Please spend two weeks elsewhere to consider how you can improve your forums courtesy.

AnandTech Moderator

 

[Stumps]

2 weeks hmmm now thats should equal 6 years by my reasoning!

 

[rise]

Originally posted by: KarenMarie
Is this the same kid who did mod on his video card and them wanted to RMA it? The thread that went on for ages, with some grown up sticking up for him?

I thought he was banned.

the very same duo, the ones who posted a pic of themselves and not their card's to prove they're real people (in front of the pink uv lights in tony's case, lol) who have combined to burn up 6 or more cards with either their lack of knowledge or plain stupidity, depending on how you look at it.

personally, i'm not sure they're not the same person, lol

 

[SickBeast]

Originally posted by: MegaWorks
Rollo got banned.

You have not helped anyone with anything with your seemingly endless, pointless, useless flaming. I am beyond tired of it, and I am even more tired of receiving complaints from others you offend.

Please spend two weeks elsewhere to consider how you can improve your forums courtesy.

AnandTech Moderator

That's not a ban. They gave him a vacation. They can't ban Rollo; have you seen the view count on the threads he posts in? He must bring a *ton* of advertising revenue to AT.

I say he should be given elite status for providing enough revenue to pay for all the bandwidth the video forum eats up. :light:

It's not just that though, the guy knows his stuff. Everyone on these boards seem to be constantly at his throat; I honestly can't blame him for reacting the way he does sometimes. I'm not condoning disrespect, just making the point that these forums need a Manners Mod and it goes both ways.

 

[Gamingphreek]

Excellent post Sickbeast i couldn't have said it any better.

-Kevin

 

[HardWarrior]

Originally posted by: SickBeast

Originally posted by: MegaWorks
Rollo got banned.

You have not helped anyone with anything with your seemingly endless, pointless, useless flaming. I am beyond tired of it, and I am even more tired of receiving complaints from others you offend.

Please spend two weeks elsewhere to consider how you can improve your forums courtesy.

AnandTech Moderator

That's not a ban. They gave him a vacation. They can't ban Rollo; have you seen the view count on the threads he posts in? He must bring a *ton* of advertising revenue to AT.

I say he should be given elite status for providing enough revenue to pay for all the bandwidth the video forum eats up. :light:

It's not just that though, the guy knows his stuff. Everyone on these boards seem to be constantly at his throat; I honestly can't blame him for reacting the way he does sometimes. I'm not condoning disrespect, just making the point that these forums need a Manners Mod and it goes both ways.

View count doesn't compensate for Rollo's behavior towards those who don't worship him. People DON'T complain about him for lack of something better to do. I applaud the Mod who finally saw through all the hot-air and butt-kissing surrounding Rollo and realized that it's important we treat each other with some respect. This is far more crucial to the health of AT than pie-in-the-sky estimates of individual worth that have little or no basis in fact.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Is it just me, or does it seem a bit ... strange... that two threads popped up in video, discussing how the MSI K8N Neo auto-overclocks their AGP video cards on them? Right as the thread that is the subject of this discussion got locked... huh? But the people starting those threads aren't under-100-post users, so I dunno. Maybe that board really does have some issues, I know MSI is big on the auto-overclocking thing, and winning benchmarks that way too.

Btw, I don't think that "BobDeMenkey" is the same person as GeForceTony. He seems older and less immature. In fact, I suspect that he might be his father. In one of the posts, Bob refers to Tony as "the boy". If the two were in fact both 17-year-old high-school pals... would you be referring to your HS-age male friends as "boy"? I doubt it.

I probably shouldn't have referred to them as "n00bs" though in my last post to that thread. They both obviously know something about computers, although if one's mobo was auto-overclocking and killing video cards, I'd sure make sure that I knew about that "feature" and disable it.

 

[MegaWorks]

Originally posted by: HardWarrior

Originally posted by: SickBeast

Originally posted by: MegaWorks
Rollo got banned.

You have not helped anyone with anything with your seemingly endless, pointless, useless flaming. I am beyond tired of it, and I am even more tired of receiving complaints from others you offend.

Please spend two weeks elsewhere to consider how you can improve your forums courtesy.

AnandTech Moderator

That's not a ban. They gave him a vacation. They can't ban Rollo; have you seen the view count on the threads he posts in? He must bring a *ton* of advertising revenue to AT.

I say he should be given elite status for providing enough revenue to pay for all the bandwidth the video forum eats up. :light:

It's not just that though, the guy knows his stuff. Everyone on these boards seem to be constantly at his throat; I honestly can't blame him for reacting the way he does sometimes. I'm not condoning disrespect, just making the point that these forums need a Manners Mod and it goes both ways.

View count doesn't compensate for Rollo's behavior towards those who don't worship him. People DON'T complain about him for lack of something better to do. I applaud the Mod who finally saw through all the hot-air and butt-kissing surrounding Rollo and realized that it's important we treat each other with some respect. This is far more crucial to the health of AT than pie-in-the-sky estimates of individual worth that have little or no basis in fact.

Excellent post HardWarrior.

 

[Zebo]

Incredible to say but Video form is worse than P&N.

Maybe cut it ATI and Nvidia? Not sure how it would help problems like this one though..

 

[Gamingphreek]

HardWarrior did it ever occur to you that you were one of the primary culprits who continuously caused Rollo to defend himself. If it hadn't then it should now.

Rollo never made blatant flames like GeforceTony recently did. I do agree that he was a bit harsh at the beginning of the thread, however other peoples behavior was innexcusible as well. As far as im concerned the statement made by GeforceTony is much worse than anything Rollo ever did.

Not to mention the people that were always all over Rollo for anything he said or did.

-Kevin

 

[SickBeast]

Originally posted by: HardWarrior

Originally posted by: SickBeast

Originally posted by: MegaWorks
Rollo got banned.

You have not helped anyone with anything with your seemingly endless, pointless, useless flaming. I am beyond tired of it, and I am even more tired of receiving complaints from others you offend.

Please spend two weeks elsewhere to consider how you can improve your forums courtesy.

AnandTech Moderator

That's not a ban. They gave him a vacation. They can't ban Rollo; have you seen the view count on the threads he posts in? He must bring a *ton* of advertising revenue to AT.

I say he should be given elite status for providing enough revenue to pay for all the bandwidth the video forum eats up. :light:

It's not just that though, the guy knows his stuff. Everyone on these boards seem to be constantly at his throat; I honestly can't blame him for reacting the way he does sometimes. I'm not condoning disrespect, just making the point that these forums need a Manners Mod and it goes both ways.

View count doesn't compensate for Rollo's behavior towards those who don't worship him. People DON'T complain about him for lack of something better to do. I applaud the Mod who finally saw through all the hot-air and butt-kissing surrounding Rollo and realized that it's important we treat each other with some respect. This is far more crucial to the health of AT than pie-in-the-sky estimates of individual worth that have little or no basis in fact.

Point taken, but if you read the thread in question, you'll see that Rollo was given a vacation for calling someone out on their shady behavior. Rollo's actions were justified, but the ban was not. That's my opinion, take it for what it's worth. "Sticks and stones will break my bones but names will never hurt me" as Judge Judy would say. I would say that condoning fraud is far more serious than some constructive criticism.

People tend to take what Rollo says waaaay too personally. I agree, sometimes he crosses the line and it's unacceptable, but this instance was definately not one of those times.

Mods, I will applaud you when you finally decide to actively moderate the video forum and punish members who act like drama queens and disrespect other members for sadistic pleasure. Way too many threads require a lawn chair and some beer; it's simply AT suicide to post in half of the threads in the video forum.

 

[HardWarrior]

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
HardWarrior did it ever occur to you that you were one of the primary culprits who continuously caused Rollo to defend himself. If it hadn't then it should now.

Rollo never made blatant flames like GeforceTony recently did. I do agree that he was a bit harsh at the beginning of the thread, however other peoples behavior was innexcusible as well. As far as im concerned the statement made by GeforceTony is much worse than anything Rollo ever did.

Not to mention the people that were always all over Rollo for anything he said or did.

-Kevin

If you're asking me whether I feel the need to kiss Rollo's butt, I'd have to say no. You might want to consider why you feel the need to protect him tooth-and-nail in the face of what's obviously a fairly extensive negative reaction to him.

Now, since that's out of the way, let's have a more factual assesment. GFT asked a question, just like so many other posters have been known to do. For his trouble he was immediately set upon by Rollo as being a liar and a cheat. I don't know where you live phreek, but most people don't tolerate this very well. ESPECIALLY from strangers. Rollo even went so far as to go into GFT's profile and use data there to "report" him to nVidia. While GFT COULD have expressed frustration in more PC terms, I can understand why he was so angry. I'm sure that you'd feel the same way if at some time you found yourself the target of Rollo's pestering, hyper-sarcasm and beligerence, as I and so many others have.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Interstingly, yet another thread about the mobo's auto-OC of the video card, with an additional link

From a purely technical perspective, it seems that most people that denied this was possible, were basing that on their assumption that the overclock was related to the system bus speeds, and that OC'ing the bus wouldn't OC the cards core/mem speeds. That is of course correct, but it seems that some mobos now contain code to actually go in and adjust certain popular video card's core speeds during boot (before they can be clock-locked by the drivers loaded by the OS), and if so, that code would most likely apply to the card's chipsets, regardless of whether it was a PCIe or AGP interface.

So it looks like one more piece of "circumstantial evidence" behind Rollo's accusatory remarks is being disproved. Don't get me wrong, I don't hate Rollo, nor do I think he is a "bad guy", but in this particular case, I do think his initial accusations were largely without merit, as I pointed out in the thread too.

Indirectly related to that, it's disturbing that one system component might, unknowingly to the user, invalidate the warranty of another system component used with it. Auto-OC'ing is evil.

 

[HardWarrior]

Originally posted by: SickBeast

Originally posted by: HardWarrior

Originally posted by: SickBeast

Originally posted by: MegaWorks
Rollo got banned.

You have not helped anyone with anything with your seemingly endless, pointless, useless flaming. I am beyond tired of it, and I am even more tired of receiving complaints from others you offend.

Please spend two weeks elsewhere to consider how you can improve your forums courtesy.

AnandTech Moderator

That's not a ban. They gave him a vacation. They can't ban Rollo; have you seen the view count on the threads he posts in? He must bring a *ton* of advertising revenue to AT.

I say he should be given elite status for providing enough revenue to pay for all the bandwidth the video forum eats up. :light:

It's not just that though, the guy knows his stuff. Everyone on these boards seem to be constantly at his throat; I honestly can't blame him for reacting the way he does sometimes. I'm not condoning disrespect, just making the point that these forums need a Manners Mod and it goes both ways.

View count doesn't compensate for Rollo's behavior towards those who don't worship him. People DON'T complain about him for lack of something better to do. I applaud the Mod who finally saw through all the hot-air and butt-kissing surrounding Rollo and realized that it's important we treat each other with some respect. This is far more crucial to the health of AT than pie-in-the-sky estimates of individual worth that have little or no basis in fact.

Point taken, but if you read the thread in question, you'll see that Rollo was given a vacation for calling someone out on their shady behavior. Rollo's actions were justified, but the ban was not. That's my opinion, take it for what it's worth. "Sticks and stones will break my bones but names will never hurt me" as Judge Judy would say. I would say that condoning fraud is far more serious than some constructive criticism.

People tend to take what Rollo says waaaay too personally. I agree, sometimes he crosses the line and it's unacceptable, but this instance was definately not one of those times.

Mods, I will applaud you when you finally decide to actively moderate the video forum and punish members who act like drama queens and disrespect other members for sadistic pleasure. Way too many threads require a lawn chair and some beer; it's simply AT suicide to post in half of the threads in the video forum.

Whether GFT's behavior was shady or not, I prefer to give others the benefit of the doubt. Considering the general nature of forums like these, this should be the preferred status for all participants. If we start riding each other down for every real or percieved flaw it's going to get to be pretty nasty very fast. Also, in the "benefit of the doubt" vane, none of as has the legal authority or moral standing to assess fraud here.

I disagree. How can anyone expect others NOT take personally the intellectual beatings that Rollo has been known to dole out? For little or no reason I hasten to add. I'm not a shrink, but Rollo's behavior indicates that he needs to constantly establish intellectual dominance in order to feel complete. It's simply wrong to expect large numbers of participants to accept this, hence the complaints.

We agree here. In fact I'd like to see the practice spread to other forums as well.

 

[SickBeast]

HardWarrior, I see your point 100%.

If I were the Master Mod, this is what I would do:

- Ask Rollo to make a public apology in the video forum and state that he will no longer jump to conclusions about people or take "moral action" against other members unless fraud is 100% proven. He should also state that he will treat his fellow members with respect going forward, *including* ATI fanATIcs.

- The next step is to actively punish members who are pleased sadistically by disrespecting others on a public forum. This includes members who establish "intellectual dominanace" on a regular basis, but also those who act like bratty children.

The AT community is growing wiser every day.©

 

[HardWarrior]

Originally posted by: SickBeast
HardWarrior, I see your point 100%.

If I were the Master Mod, this is what I would do:

- Ask Rollo to make a public apology in the video forum and state that he will no longer jump to conclusions about people or take "moral action" against other members unless fraud is 100% proven. He should also state that he will treat his fellow members with respect going forward, *including* ATI fanATIcs.

- The next step is to actively punish members who are pleased sadistically by disrespecting others on a public forum. This includes members who establish "intellectual dominanace" on a regular basis, but also those who act like bratty children.

The AT community is growing wiser every day.©

Wow, really???

I'd be content if he'd just stop treating posters like vermin at the drop of a hat (any hat). Based on what Rollo says, he seems to think that because he makes a contribution, of dubious value at best, he has the right to behave anyway he wants. It would be peaches to see that perspective reined in a bit.

:laugh: Now THIS would give an entirely new meaning to "active moderation!"

We'll see...

 

[Gamingphreek]

Im not saying kiss his butt but good god give the man some respect. Before he even posts you call him out sometimes. As for the second statement why are you so hell bent on making his forum posting a living nightmare??

As for GeforceTony. Everyone has already agreed including Rollo that he jumped tto conclusions far too fast. However GFT became more and more unbelievable as time went on which further raised suspicions. THen he goes and makes that statement. Even if he was right that kind of behaviour SHOULD NOT be tolerated at all whether it be elite or junior member.

You and so many others huh? Like i said earlier maybe if you would offer some respect to the guy he wouldn't be so harsh and quick to punish.

Stop making me appear the bad-guy! I have done nothing wrong, so there is no need to talk to me like im an 8 year old.

-Kevin

 

[HardWarrior]

I don't know about you, but for me respect is something that's earned in real-time. As for the rest, your take on the situation is false, so I won't bother responding to it.

GFT was mercilessly picked at before things escalated. If Rollo would have avoided what all of us have to agree was a VERY personal attack, GFT wouldn't have had a reason to get so cranked.

See the first paragraph for my response to this. Moreover, Rollo has NO right to be "harsh and punishing" under any circumstance. This is an open forum, not his private court. If he, or anyone else for that matter, has an issue with someones behavior it should be reported to a mod, or in your case, broached here.

I've done no such thing and you need to calm yourself. If for no other reason than to avoid undermining your defense of the indefensible. Part of participating in a place like this is the possibility that you might not be agreed with. This is something you, as an individual, have to accept.

 

[Gamingphreek]

What have i done to show that i haven't accepted this. Have i gone off on a tirade because someone disagreed with me...nope!

He was no "mercilessly" picked on. You cannot tell me that you believed them 100% when GFT fried 3 cards and his "friend" fried 2 cards and they RMAed it EVERY TIME on top of one being replaced with non standard cooling, and somehow being OCed. People had different levels of skepticism. Rollo was not the only one who attacked GFT. Everyone jumped on him, Rollo did jump to a conclusion and was way too harsh but like you said it is an open forum. If he wants to be mean thats what he can do, however GFT's statement was way out of line and over the boundary.

YOu have made me appear the bad guy.... like im defending a criminal. Rollos actions were no where near a need for a vacation. THere are plenty of other posts that far outstrip this one. Again GFT's statement is without a doubt one of THE WORST posts i have seen in the Video Forum in all my time on the forums.

As for you however, you constantly are accusing Rollo. Not saying you are the worst by any means, however if people would stop flaming him in every thread or simply calling him out, then there would be no need to raise tensions or for him to defend himself.

I've done no such thing and you need to calm yourself. If for no other reason than to avoid undermining your defense of the indefensible. Part of participating in a place like this is the possibility that you might not be agreed with. This is something you, as an individual, have to accept.

Again you are acting like im an uncontrollable little kid. I haven't yelled (in a sense) i haven't flamed, we are simply having a general discussion. There is no acceptance problem here. Like i said earlier i have been around a pretty long time (Posting here longer than 2003), if someone disagrees fine, do i care at all, no.

Think about this entire issue before you post because you seem to be blindly accusing and rushing to conclusions.

-Kevin

 

[HardWarrior]

You're becoming more and more agitated with every post, that's how I can tell.

Whether GFT is innocent or guilty of what he's been accused of is not my concern, or yours for that matter. Just because others joined the witchhunt doesn't absolve Rollo of his INITIAL and CONTINUING behavior. Obviously Rollo can't "act as mean as he wants to", at least not without being complained about that is.

No I have not. Just repeating the accusation ad nausem doesn't make it true. As for the rest, you're allowed your opinion. But the mod who gave Rollo the vacation apparently disagrees.

If by "calling him out" you mean that I refuse to kiss his ring then, again, you're right.

No I am not. I'm also not indulging in personal references, as you are. What I've done here is simply offer my opinion of the topic, and your take on it. Nothing more.

The irony of your last statement is amazing.

 

[Stumps]

I can't see what the problem rollo had with GFT, I try not sell XFX products at work as I have found them to of similar quality to Palit-Daytona and Eagle products..very dodgy, somehow I don't think that XFX will stop GFT RMA's because of 1 email..Rollo was just being stupid, as far as I know GFT gets what he deserves for buying XFX product, you get what you pay for!