GeForce3 TI 200 64MB VS ATI Radeon 7500 64MB

[barlav]

I'm trying to decide between a GeForce3 TI 200 64MB VS ATI Radeon 7500 64MB. Is there any big qulaity difference between the 2? Thanks for any insights.

 

[bigbootydaddy]

i just got my gf3 ti 200 and love it. but i have nothing to compare it with personally at that level as i have used a radeon LE, gf2 gts-v, and tnt 2 64, but nothing at the gf3 level.

i can say that you wont regret it.

booty

 

[Ogo]

The GF3 ti200 is a far better product.
The Radeon 7500 is meant to compete with the GF2 Ti, and it does.
Also, the Radeon has no Directx8 support (correct me if I'm wrong).

 

[EdipisReks]

well, the radeon 7500 has the same quasi dx8 support that the original radeon has, but as was mentioned, the geforce3 ti200 is MUCH faster than the radeon 7500 in almost anything that counts (hi-rez, FSAA, etc).

--jacob

 

[tapir]

the GF3 wins here. If you want better-than-Ti200 performance, get an R8500LE or R8500LELE - castrated radeon 8500's that sell for $200 or less. They'd beat a Ti200 out though, and there are a bunch of tricks you can do to make them go at retail speeds, in which case it'd work more like a Ti500.

edit: forgot to mention the Radeons have superior 2D performance and are generally cheaper than ti200's allowing you to spend more on other parts of your system.

 

[eckh]

R7500 has 2-nd generation T&L engine like old Radeon or nVidia Geforce and Geforce 2 series. GF3TI200 has 3-rd gen. T&L engine like Radeon 8500 and GF3 of course. In games any gf3ti200 kicks r7500's ass probably. In 2d quality it's usually opposite, it depends heavily on GF3ti200's manufacturer. Some cards have better 2d quality than others.

One more thing, ATI's TV-out is much better than on any GF3ti200.

eckh

 

[Rand]

If Dual Monitor output, and 2D visual quality is of the utmost importance then the R7500 is the better option, otherwise the GF2 Ti200 is clearly a better choice in almost all respects and certainly a far better gaming card.
A Radeon 8500LE would likey be a better choice yet, at a slightly higher price point then the GF3 Ti200 but better 2D, better feature set, better FSAA,, and slightly better performance also.

 

[barlav]

The GeForce3 TI 200 it is! Gaming will be the focus of my purchase. Thanks!

 

[ignorus]

can the gf3 ti200 do dual monitor (if it has both dvi & vga out) ? Does it need a special program to do it?

 

[AA0]

nvidia lacks dual monitor support except on the awful mx cards. ATI has dual monitors for the 7500 and 8500 as a standard feature.

As said, the 7500 is slower, but if you want 2d stuff also, the gf3 can't compare with it, it was meant for games.

 

[Egrimm]

You guys mention that the 8500LE can be modified to run like a normal 8500 but you forget to mention how oc'able the Ti200s are. Many people have gotten their Ti200s to run at least as fast as GF3 and Ti500 is quite possible too.

I have gotten my Palit Daytona GeForce3 Ti200, which is the cheapest Ti200 by far - it cost the same as a 7500 here, to run 240/530. That gives a little better performance than a Ti500 or 8500 according to 3d-Mark2001, and that's from a card that cost less than half of the price of a Ti500!

 

[AA0]

the 8500s can be flashed to retail, where the GF3s must be overclocked, big difference.

 

[trikster2]

I just went through this whole process and decided on the GeForce3 TI 200.

I was also considering the GeForce 2 Ti, the overclocked version like the gainward are close to the 7500 in specs and features, plus can be had with video in and out for $129 or so (gainward).

My reasoning was thus:

1. I run my 19" monitor at 800x600, I don't get much on the screen but it sure is easy on the eyes! From what I've read the GeForce 3's should handle this fine.

2. Researching here on the web people are having trouble flashing the new realy low speed 8500's LEs (230 ram) to retail. The initial OEMs with the 250 ram were practically guaranteed to OC but the new slow LEs have some problems.

3. I don't care about multi monitor support. I'm trying to get rid of monitors (via a KVM) not add more junk the family room.

4. I almost went with the GeForce 2 Ti Gainward wi. video in and out. At $129 it's a steal and Oclocks for some very respectable performance.
Did not chose that because:
Nvidia video-in/out has a bed rep. I'll get a dedicated card if I need it.
Want a future proof card. With the XBOX being GeForce based, gaming companies should be using the advanced features of the GeForce 3 real soon now (could be wrong).

5. Drivers! One of the games I play, DaOC is STILL reporting problems with ATI cards. Solution is to use beta drivers and hope for the best. All my friends with ATI cards dumped them and got Nvidia cards just because they work. Problems may be fixed now but impression I get from my friends: Gaming companies back Nvidia and Nvidia backs their cards with good driver support.

6. I'm upgrading from a voodoo2 and onboard/integrated i810e graphics. I can't go wrong no matter what I choose!!!

Fedex delivers the gainward GeForce3 Ti 200 and my new AGP capable motherboard tomorow.

If I remember I'll follow up on if I think I made the write decission or not.

 

[Egrimm]

AA0, I don't see the big difference. In fact, to me it looks worse for the 8500LE as you have to flash the card, this risking it. When oc'ing you use software and can always restart in safe mode and set it back to default speed if it doesn't work, that way it looks like an non-tweaked card if you have problems with it so you have to rma it, whereas it shows on the LE when you've done a bios flash = no warranty. And the 8500LE won't do much without the normal 8500 bios, plus as trickster2 mentioned it isn't everybody who get good results even when flashing the bios.

That being said, I did consider getting an 8500(LE) but hearing that the LE didn't oc that well and about the flash-problems and knowing ATIs former problems with drivers (*cough* my Tv-Wonder *cough*) , though many people say that the 8500 have good drivers, I decided to get a Ti200 instead. That it was quite a bit cheaper was also good of course.

 

[TrevL63]

"the 8500s can be flashed to retail, where the GF3s must be overclocked, big difference"

Ignorance is bliss.

you ever heard of a nivida bios editor my friend?

 

[Egrimm]

<< you ever heard of a nivida bios editor my friend? >>


Yep, but it's not necessary to get good oc results whereas the bios-flash is needed for the 8500LE to get good results.