GeForce Kepler 104 (GK104) 256-bit GDDR5 Memory Bus - 225W TDP

[Joseph F]

9500Pro beat the FX5800Ultra on occasion.

The FX5800 Ultra was a turd. That's the only reason that happened. If the 7970 was a turd, I might see the midrange nV card beating it, but that is not going to happen this time around.

 

[Lonyo]

You guys are being trolled pretty hard here.

In any case, I wouldn't expect miracles from from GK104, TSMCs 28nm process is not very good right now. AMD has historically been better at moving to new nodes than nVidia and AMD did a great job with Tahiti, reasonable power consumption and heat together with some nice OC headroom.

I expect GK104 to come under 7950 performance and if its going to use 225W (and we all know we can trust nvidia TDP claims) it going to use a similar amount of power.

Now pricing could be interesting, if it is priced at 299 and gives slightly lower than GTX580 performance than they have a real winner, but we have 570s that cost that much so it won't be unprecedented.

Whats more realistic is nVidia just pricing where there is a gap for it. If the 7950 is 449, then GK104 will likely be 399. and might beat the 7870.

Depends on how NV feel. If they want to go for mindshare, knowing that most of their profits come from other areas such as workstation and HPC, they might sacrifice profit margin and stick with marketshare.

 

[Joseph F]

I think the 9600GT gave the Radeon 2900XT a decent run, often as fast to somewhat faster.

Radeon 2900XT: Launched May 14, 2007. 80nm
GeForce 9600GT: Launched February 21, 2008. 65nm

They aren't in the same generation of cards and they aren't on the same process.