Robert Berry

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I recently posted something on here about giving this kid my old computer. He lost his in a housefire and I want to gave him my old won, its a little old but he says it works fine. However, i also want to get him a new graphics card because he enjoys playing computer games. The answers I received were incredibly helpful, and the graphics cards recommended were the Nvidia GeForce 750 ti, and the Radeon RX 460. The computer runs on Windows Vista Business and the pc itself is built inside an Optiplex 760.

Here are the specs:
Microsoft Windows Vista Business
Version 6.0.6002 Service Pack 2 Build 6002
Manufactured by Dell
System model OptiPlex 760
System type X86-based PC (32 bits)
Processor Intel Core 2 Duo CPU, E8400 @ 3.00GHz, 3000MHz, 2 cores
SMBIOS Version 2.5
RAM = 2.00GB
Total Virtual Memory = 4.14GB
Page File Space = 2.24GB
PSU is assumed to be 300w

Which is better for their price and will run better with the specs given? Also, I am already going for the 2gb versions of the cards of the two.

I can get an
EVGA GeForce GTX 750Ti with G-SYNC Support 2GB GDDR5 128bit, Dual-Link, DVI-I, HDMI, DP Graphics Card for $109,

and a

XFX Radeon RX 460 True OC DirectX 12 RX-460P2SFG5 2GB 128-Bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 CrossFireX Support Video Card for $100.

Also, is there anything else that I should consider or know before I purchase either of the two? I'm not very tech savvy. Any help is appreciated! Thank you!
 

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RX 460, deffinitely. For your PSu, you better look for non 6-pin versions of the GPUs. The XFX GPU in question should be without 6-pin connector.
 
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You will need more system ram to run games. 8gb of ddr2 if possible but at least 4gb.
You might want to grab a copy of windows 7 64 bit also.
Pick up a cheap quad core q9550 for 30$ on ebay.
With a gtx750ti with no power connector, you should be able to play games made before 2014.
 
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Hello Robert Berry. I don't know when you were given the advice about the 750 Ti and the RX 460, but Nvidia released the GTX 1050 just a couple weeks ago and it's now pretty easily the best option in that price range.

You can get a good EVGA GeForce GTX 1050 SC GAMING for $120 on Newegg or Amazon (and there are cheaper Zotac and Gigabyte 1050s for $110 if the money is an issue, though the Gigabyte is out of stock right now).

This video does a pretty good comparison of the 2 GB GTX 1050 and 2 GB RX 460. The 1050 wins pretty strongly and consumes less power doing so:



Especially in your case, where you'll be pairing the card with an older/weaker CPU, the GTX 1050 is easily the better option over the RX 460 due to Nvidia's superior driver optimizations for CPU usage.
 
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Hello Robert Berry. I don't know when you were given the advice about the 750 Ti and the RX 460, but Nvidia released the GTX 1050 just a couple weeks ago and it's now pretty easily the best option in that price range.

You can get a good EVGA GeForce GTX 1050 SC GAMING for $120 on Newegg or Amazon (and there are cheaper Zotac and Gigabyte 1050s for $110 if the money is an issue, though the Gigabyte is out of stock right now).

This video does a pretty good comparison of the 2 GB GTX 1050 and 2 GB RX 460. The 1050 wins pretty strongly and consumes less power doing so:



Especially in your case, where you'll be pairing the card with an older/weaker CPU, the GTX 1050 is easily the better option over the RX 460 due to Nvidia's superior driver optimizations for CPU usage.
No he don't need a 1050,he has a Dell system with a e8400 cpu ,running windows Vista and 2gb of ram.
A $60 used gtx750ti will max that system.
 

Robert Berry

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RX 460, deffinitely. For your PSu, you better look for non 6-pin versions of the GPUs. The XFX GPU in question should be without 6-pin connector.
Is there anything else I should get in addition to the RX 460? Like do I need to buy anything to make sure the card runs efficiently or am I already set?
 

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RX 460 for sure. Its quite better than the 750ti and you can find many version without a 6pin connector required. For $100 you can't go wrong with it.

You may want to add additional stick of 4GB of ram, yes it will not be running dual channel, but I think 6GB of ram will be better than running 4GB of dual channel ram.

DDR2 memory will be quite hard to find and quite expensive, since its long been discontinued, but there are some still around.
 
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No he don't need a 1050,he has a Dell system with a e8400 cpu ,running windows Vista and 2gb of ram.
A $60 used gtx750ti will max that system.
If used, $60 750 Tis are an option the OP would consider, than yeah that'd be good. He did seem to have his sights set on the brand new ~$100 range though and for that price, the 460 and 750 Ti should both be ignored. Just giving him a heads up that neither of those cards are worth it for $100+ anymore.
 

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Mr. Berry before you waste money on a new 100$ gpu , did you read my post?
Honestly, a gtx750ti is worth more than the whole computer with the monitor.
Just trying to help/
So you recommend getting the GTX 750Ti? You also want me to get a copy of Windows 7 64 bit and 4-8 additional gb's of ddr, and a quad core?
 
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Neither. 1050 is a better choice than these two for your system - unless you can find a 750 Ti on sale (or used).

This video does a pretty good comparison of the 2 GB GTX 1050 and 2 GB RX 460. The 1050 wins pretty strongly and consumes less power doing so:

Especially in your case, where you'll be pairing the card with an older/weaker CPU, the GTX 1050 is easily the better option over the RX 460 due to Nvidia's superior driver optimizations for CPU usage.
Agree 100%.
 

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So you recommend getting the GTX 750Ti? You also want me to get a copy of Windows 7 64 bit and 4-8 additional gb's of ddr, and a quad core?
Yeah disregard him!!! On this forum many think that everyone who posts has tons of free money to spare and investing $200-300 more than their budget is absolutely reasonable. You are lucky people din't start recommending spending $800 on a whole new system, its always the case, when they just want to upgrade one part!
 

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Yeah disregard him!!! On this forum many think that everyone who posts has tons of free money to spare and investing $200-300 more than their budget is absolutely reasonable. You are lucky people din't start recommending spending $800 on a whole new system, its always the case, when they just want to upgrade one part!
No I don't want people to buy a 100$ Gpu with 2gb of system memory, a 8 year old cpu and a obsolete operating system. Then the kid loads the new doom game and it don't work.

Question that need to be asked first,,,,,

1. what games
2. what resolution
3. what cpu / system specs.
4. whats your budget.
 

Robert Berry

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Well if the kid wants to play anything close to a modern game made before 2014.
He cannot play any good PC game made in the last 3 years with a e8400 cpu and 2gb of ram. I'm sorry , I want to help.
You say that the GTX 750Ti will be able to run games made before 2014 well WITH the additional 4gb's ddr2, the quad core, and the windows 7 64 bit, so how well will the XFX Radeon RX 460 do, with just additional ddr2 ram, compared to the Nvidia card plus everything else you recommended buying?
 

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I would disregard any AMD GPU with that old of a CPU, since as Ghost of Cyrix points out, AMD tends to have higher CPU overhead, and you need all of the free CPU resources you can get. That is, unless you are getting a steal of a deal, which 460 @ $100 is not.

If all you want to upgrade is the GPU, I'd look at used options to save some money. New 750 Tis are overpriced, but the 1050 will be overkill for that system. You might be able to find a used GPU for around $50-$60 and then buy a bit of RAM to get to your $100 budget. That would create a more balanced system for gaming.
 

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You say that the GTX 750Ti will be able to run games made before 2014 well WITH the additional 4gb's ddr2, the quad core, and the windows 7 64 bit, so how well will the XFX Radeon RX 460 do, with just additional ddr2 ram, compared to the Nvidia card plus everything else you recommended buying?
To be honest, about the same. Your cpu will still slow them both.
 
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You say that the GTX 750Ti will be able to run games made before 2014 well WITH the additional 4gb's ddr2, the quad core, and the windows 7 64 bit, so how well will the XFX Radeon RX 460 do, with just additional ddr2 ram, compared to the Nvidia card plus everything else you recommended buying?
I gotta agree with happy medium on this (thanks for stressing the CPU/RAM importance happy medium!). A used 750 Ti + a used quad-core + the extra RAM is the most balanced and best shot you've got to play modern games with that PC.

The RX 460 even with the same CPU would be much worse on such an old system than the 750 Ti, but no clue just how good even the quad-core happy medium recommended would hold up with modern games.
 
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I would disregard any AMD GPU with that old of a CPU, since as Ghost of Cyrix points out, AMD tends to have higher CPU overhead, and you need all of the free CPU resources you can get. That is, unless you are getting a steal of a deal, which 460 @ $100 is not.

If all you want to upgrade is the GPU, I'd look at used options to save some money. New 750 Tis are overpriced, but the 1050 will be overkill for that system. You might be able to find a used GPU for around $50-$60 and then buy a bit of RAM to get to your $100 budget. That would create a more balanced system for gaming.
I agree with him Mr. Barry. A gtx 750ti will generally be better with older games.
I would say what ever gpu you can find the cheapest without a power connector.
I would definitely try to buy a used gtx750. That's the best choice and use the extra money to upgrade the other components.
 
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I agree with him Mr. Barry. A gtx 750ti will generally be better with older games.
I would say what ever gpu you can find the cheapest without a power connector.
I would definitely try to buy a used gtx750. That's the best choice and use the extra money to upgrade the other components.
gtx 750 or 750ti?
 
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I gotta agree with happy medium on this (thanks for stressing the CPU/RAM importance happy medium!). A used 750 Ti + a used quad-core + the extra RAM is the most balanced and best shot you've got to play modern games with that PC.

The RX 460 even with the same CPU would be much worse on such an old system than the 750 Ti, but no clue just how good even the quad-core happy medium recommended would hold up with modern games.
thanks, I thought mabe you overlooked the cpu/ram. :)
 

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