GeForce GTX 750 Ti Differences

[john925]

As some of you may know, I've been in the process of building a fairly low budget gaming pc and sort of using this as a type of reference standpoint. I've been looking at all the different 750 Ti's and trying to figure out the difference between a few of them aside from manufacturers. Mainly the ones from EVGA and MSI. Is it just the clock speeds and stuff like that?

 

[xorbe]

Get the quietest one with a 6-pin plug (not 8-pin). If you are overclocking, then it just comes down to luck of the draw, really. As far as I know, all 750Ti cards are 2GB gddr5, so there isn't really any variation, other than clocks, which you can adjust yourself with MSI AB.

Edit: my bad, apparently zero connectors are available. I thought that was 750 (non-Ti) only.

 

[john925]

Get the quietest one with a 6-pin plug (not 8-pin). If you are overclocking, then it just comes down to luck of the draw, really. As far as I know, all 750Ti cards are 2GB gddr5, so there isn't really any variation, other than clocks, which you can adjust yourself with MSI AB.

Ok cool, thats what i thought. I really like the MSI Twin Frozr one, but i missed out on the Amazon deal for like $90 or something like that. Now it's back around $130ish. I mean I'm not partial to just the 750 Ti, it's just that's what i've been hearing that runs the best with a Pentium G3258 for that price range. I'm looking around $120-$130 or less whether it be on sale, B-stock, refurbished, whatever.

 

[lehtv]

How's this: R7 370 2GB for $115 AR

Performance is between GTX 750 Ti and GTX 950, usually much closer to the latter: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/xfx-radeon-r7-370-2gb-black-edition,4323-2.html

 

[Leyawiin]

Don't get a GTX 750 Ti with a six pin power connector. It has no bearing on stock performance or overclocking and is completely unnecessary. The GTX 750 Ti only has a 38.5w power limit and you'll almost never - even with a modded BIOS that lifts that power limit - run out of juice from the PCI-E slot regardless how hard you push it. I tried. I own an EVGA GTX 750 Ti SC. Its a great little $100 card.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487024

As far as a card for a G3258, you can use quite a number of them more powerful than that. I have one OC'd to 4.5 Ghz and it works quite well with a GTX 960. Nicely balanced. Out of curiosity I recently stuck my main PC's GTX 780 in it and it matches or comes close to matching the i5-4690k at stock in about half of my games with the same GPU (on a 1920x1200 60Hz monitor). The ones it doesn't its not too far behind (although I wouldn't recommend anything more powerful than a GTX 960 or R9 380 - it will bottleneck beyond that to some extent). Anyway, the whole premise of a G3258 is to keep costs to a minimum and overclock it as much as you can. That's the only way they make sense (so going hog wild on a GPU doesn't).

 

[Seba]

I'll second that recommendation to get a GTX 750 Ti without any PCI-E power connector, because such a card has greater resale value (can be used on systems with low-end power supplies).

Also, GTX 750 Ti (and GTX 750) is available in 1GB versions, so avoid that (make sure you get a 2GB version).

 

[ShintaiDK]

Another for the TI without power connector. Its about equal as speed stripes for that card.

However 2GB is a must.

 

[john925]

Don't get a GTX 750 Ti with a six pin power connector. It has no bearing on stock performance or overclocking and is completely unnecessary. The GTX 750 Ti only has a 38.5w power limit and you'll almost never - even with a modded BIOS that lifts that power limit - run out of juice from the PCI-E slot regardless how hard you push it. I tried. I own an EVGA GTX 750 Ti SC. Its a great little $100 card.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487024

As far as a card for a G3258, you can use quite a number of them more powerful than that. I have one OC'd to 4.5 Ghz and it works quite well with a GTX 960. Nicely balanced. Out of curiosity I recently stuck my main PC's GTX 780 in it and it matches or comes close to matching the i5-4690k at stock in about half of my games with the same GPU (on a 1920x1200 60Hz monitor). The ones it doesn't its not too far behind (although I wouldn't recommend anything more powerful than a GTX 960 or R9 380 - it will bottleneck beyond that to some extent). Anyway, the whole premise of a G3258 is to keep costs to a minimum and overclock it as much as you can. That's the only way they make sense (so going hog wild on a GPU doesn't).

See I thought the 750 ti had a 60w power consumption or something like that. Ok I'll keep looking. I wanted to try nVidia because for some reason they seem more compatible with games new and old over AMD.

 

[john925]

I'll second that recommendation to get a GTX 750 Ti without any PCI-E power connector, because such a card has greater resale value (can be used on systems with low-end power supplies).

Also, GTX 750 Ti (and GTX 750) is available in 1GB versions, so avoid that (make sure you get a 2GB version).

Oh yeah I've been dodging 1gb cards left and right. I'm not talking anything less than a 2gb. But I was told that a 4gb would be useless for my build

 

[john925]

How's this: R7 370 2GB for $115 AR

Performance is between GTX 750 Ti and GTX 950, usually much closer to the latter: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/xfx-radeon-r7-370-2gb-black-edition,4323-2.html

That's not bad, but if you look down there's people saying to avoid the 6 pin connectors. I was trying to figure out something of equivalent performance or better for the same price. I was told either the R7 or R9 (I can't remember which) 260x was about the same. We'll see, I still have about a week or so to make a decision.

 

[Seba]

At GTX 750 Ti performance level, 2GB is enough.

I'll consider 4GB at GTX 960 performance level, but only if the price premium over the 2GB version is minimal.

In graphics cards like R9 290, 4GB is perfectlly justified.

 

[Seba]

That's not bad, but if you look down there's people saying to avoid the 6 pin connectors.

At least in my case, you misunderstood that recommendation. Avoid cards with 6-pin if we are talking about GTX 750/GTX 750 Ti (the reason is stated in my post).

Just because another card model (with a different GPU) requires a PCI-E power connector, it does not mean that you should avoid such a card (unless you have a power supply that can not be used with anything more demanding than that).

At similar prices, I'll choose R7 370 2GB over GTX 750 Ti 2GB.

 

[john925]

Oh ok gotcha. That makes sense. I'll keep an eye out for both and see which has a better deal

 

[Leyawiin]

I shouldn't have said "don't get a GTX 750 Ti with a six pin". I should have said it doesn't matter if it has one or not. To me the whole point of the card is having the most capable card available that gets its power solely from the PCI-E port. A six pin is redundant and I never understood why some manufacturers included it. Basically, get whatever is cheapest, because again, it doesn't matter.

 

[Seba]

One of the main selling points of GTX 750 Ti is that it is the fastest graphics card that does not require a PCI-E power connector. Good for upgrading OEM systems with low power or low quality (with apparently higher power) power supplies (but not both ). If you get one with a PCI-E power connector, you lose that advantage (which could be important if you want to sell the card at some point and upgrade to a better one).

What other components will this system include?

 

[RussianSensation]

As some of you may know, I've been in the process of building a fairly low budget gaming pc and sort of using this as a type of reference standpoint. I've been looking at all the different 750 Ti's and trying to figure out the difference between a few of them aside from manufacturers. Mainly the ones from EVGA and MSI. Is it just the clock speeds and stuff like that?

Among 750Ti cards, the PNY GTX 750 Ti XLR8 OC seems to be one of the quietest under load. The thing is the entire series of cards - 750Ti - isn't very good for games. 750Ti will give you the performance barely better than PS4 which isn't what PC gaming is about. I think if you are going to build a new gaming PC, do it right or keep saving. You should do more research because you are starting off with a sub-optimal videocard choice. It's even possible to buy an R9 270 on Newegg for $135 right now and that card is 30% faster than the 750Ti in games. As you can see, just $35-50 extra over 750Ti gets you a lot of performance. The main selling point of the 750Ti was its power usage, otherwise its performance is nothing special. Essentially for the price of new 1 PC game you get 60-70% more performance over what the 750Ti delivers.

http://www.computerbase.de/2015-01/...-im-test/3/#abschnitt_leistungsratings_spiele

A used 7970 1Ghz would be 75-90% faster than a 750Ti and it's possible to find those for $120. If you are truly trying to build a budget gaming PC, that's the path you should be looking at or waiting for a deal on a 960/380 level card. IMO, it's better to spend $135-160 than spend $100 and the card is outdated in 12 months. 750Ti makes sense if it's $70-80, that's it.

If you want to purchase new, save a little more $ and try to wait for a deal on a 950/960/380. Right now the 950 is $140 and over the holidays a deal is bound to come up for $125-130 on this card. IMO, it's worth it to spend the extra $ over the 750Ti. 750Ti itself isn't a good budget gaming card at all unless you have a 300W OEM PSU. If you are building a system from scratch, I presume you are buying a good PSU. If you are trying to find the best budget gaming card for the $, then it would be HD7950/7970/7970Ghz in the used market. Otherwise, it's worth it to move up to the 950/960/380 level.

 

[john925]

I shouldn't have said "don't get a GTX 750 Ti with a six pin". I should have said it doesn't matter if it has one or not. To me the whole point of the card is having the most capable card available that gets its power solely from the PCI-E port. A six pin is redundant and I never understood why some manufacturers included it. Basically, get whatever is cheapest, because again, it doesn't matter.

Ok that makes more sense lol

 

[john925]

One of the main selling points of GTX 750 Ti is that it is the fastest graphics card that does not require a PCI-E power connector. Good for upgrading OEM systems with low power or low quality (with apparently higher power) power supplies (but not both ). If you get one with a PCI-E power connector, you lose that advantage (which could be important if you want to sell the card at some point and upgrade to a better one).

What other components will this system include?

Well right now I have a g3258 and an ASRock H81 pro btc motherboard (I know it's not made for gaming, but at $24 you can't beat that). I'm shopping around and buying piece by piece trying to snag deals and win auctions. I just ordered a Raidmax Volcano 630w psu. I don't know if it's any good, but right now I want to get it built and see how it runs, then change out what doesn't work (right or at all) and what I don't like.

 

[john925]

Among 750Ti cards, the PNY GTX 750 Ti XLR8 OC seems to be one of the quietest under load. The thing is the entire series of cards - 750Ti - isn't very good for games. 750Ti will give you the performance barely better than PS4 which isn't what PC gaming is about. I think if you are going to build a new gaming PC, do it right or keep saving. You should do more research because you are starting off with a sub-optimal videocard choice. It's even possible to buy an R9 270 on Newegg for $135 right now and that card is 30% faster than the 750Ti in games. As you can see, just $35-50 extra over 750Ti gets you a lot of performance. The main selling point of the 750Ti was its power usage, otherwise its performance is nothing special. Essentially for the price of new 1 PC game you get 60-70% more performance over what the 750Ti delivers.

http://www.computerbase.de/2015-01/...-im-test/3/#abschnitt_leistungsratings_spiele

A used 7970 1Ghz would be 75-90% faster than a 750Ti and it's possible to find those for $120. If you are truly trying to build a budget gaming PC, that's the path you should be looking at or waiting for a deal on a 960/380 level card. IMO, it's better to spend $135-160 than spend $100 and the card is outdated in 12 months. 750Ti makes sense if it's $70-80, that's it.

If you want to purchase new, save a little more $ and try to wait for a deal on a 950/960/380. Right now the 950 is $140 and over the holidays a deal is bound to come up for $125-130 on this card. IMO, it's worth it to spend the extra $ over the 750Ti. 750Ti itself isn't a good budget gaming card at all unless you have a 300W OEM PSU. If you are building a system from scratch, I presume you are buying a good PSU. If you are trying to find the best budget gaming card for the $, then it would be HD7950/7970/7970Ghz in the used market. Otherwise, it's worth it to move up to the 950/960/380 level.

Well this is my first build so I'm not going top of the line. I want something that can run more demanding games, doesn't have to be maxed out on every game, and I'm learning as I go. I'm going low budget because if I screw up somewhere, I'm not out a small fortune. So if I can get ps4 quality or slightly above, I'll be ok with that since once I'm done, the entire build will have cost less than a ps4. Then I can upgrade later down the road (the beauty of PC gaming). But I will take a look at your recommendations for sure. I appreciate it.

 

[Seba]

If you can increase your budget, I'll also recommend to get a GTX 960 (4GB version if the price difference from 2GB version is not excessive).

Can you cancel your order for that power supply?

 

[maddogmcgee]

If you can increase your budget, I'll also recommend to get a GTX 960 (4GB version if the price difference from 2GB version is not excessive).

Can you cancel your order for that power supply?

How is a 960 better value or closer to his intended budget than a used 7970?

Agree about the PSU, cancel, cancel, cancel !

 

[john925]

How is a 960 better value or closer to his intended budget than a used 7970?

Agree about the PSU, cancel, cancel, cancel !

It already shipped. I got it for 20 bucks. Like I said, I want to get it built and then swap out and upgrade as needed. Also, I found a 3gb XFX 7950 for about 130. He guarantees no DOA and returns. Should I jump on it?

 

[john925]

It already shipped. I got it for 20 bucks. Like I said, I want to get it built and then swap out and upgrade as needed. Also, I found a 3gb XFX 7950 for about 130. He guarantees no DOA and returns. Should I jump on it?

Well the ad says a 7950 but the description says it's a Diamond 7970

 

[Seba]

How is a 960 better value or closer to his intended budget than a used 7970?

Why compare new with second hand? I did not look, but there must be second hand GTX 960 cards, too.

Also, with that power supply, GTX 960 (or the initial GTX 750 Ti) are safer choices.

 

[john925]

Why compare new with second hand? I did not look, but there must be second hand GTX 960 cards, too.

Also, with that power supply, GTX 960 (or the initial GTX 750 Ti) are safer choices.

But a 7970 wouldn't be?