Geforce FX GPU of the year award?

[QueBert]

haha on Nvidia's site there is some banner at the top that says the FX was named best graphic processor of 2002!

they give awards for the the most delayed overhyped product now? what a damn shame.

gotta love how it got 2002 GPU of the year award when it's still not out, and it's 2k3 heheh.

if they screw up the next chip they put out after the FX, I'm sorry but they're done.

 

[EdipisReks]

Originally posted by: QueBert
if they screw up the next chip they put out after the FX, I'm sorry but they're done.

are you a technology finance expert? nVidia has a lot more market than just the enthusiast.

 

[percboy]

The award winners were selected by In-Stat/MDR's technology analysts, the team behind the internationally recognized industry newsletter, Microprocessor Report and the annual Microprocessor Forum and Embedded Processor Forum.

For your reading enjoyment..

 

[Keysplayr]

As Edipis says, Nvidia is far from being done. They are still making a killing on their Ti Line. High end components are never the bread and butter of graphics companies, or any tech company. The mainstream is where the cash is made. Nvidia also has it's Mobo chips which are extremely successful. Just ask most AMD owners. If they dont have an NForce2 Mobo, they are certainly figuring out how to get one. IMO.

Keys

 

[ScrewFace]

The article said the GeForce FX was the best GPU of 2002 not 2003!!! The friggin' thing wasn't even out in consumers hands in 2002!!! I wonder how much nVidia payed them for that! It's obvious that the ATI RADEON 9700 PRO was the GPU of the year 2002!!!:disgust:

 

[kylebisme]

also your reading enjoyment, from the man behind the award..

A little light to go with your heat
I'm the editor in chief of Microprocessor Report and a principal analyst with In-Stat/MDR. I'm also the primary analyst for graphics technology at In-Stat/MDR, and the most highly respected technology analyst in the graphics industry.

I have many years of engineering experience designing graphics cards and chips, and I've been an analyst in this area for about five years now.

I am aware of all of the facts regarding the GeForce FX and its competition-- better than any of you, because it's my job, and just something you all think about from time to time as a hobby.

Key facts of which none of you seem to be aware:

Our eligibility criteria are that nominees must be commercially available during the calendar year preceding the announcement of the award, and that enough information be available about the nominees to permit us to reach a good decision about the award.

The GeForce FX did become commercially available during 2002. NVIDIA manufactured and sold these chips in 2002 to board makers, who then began manufacturing boards using these chips. Yes, sales volumes are very low, but the Microprocessor Report awards are not concerned with sales volumes, only the qualities inherent to the chips themselves.

The GeForce FX does in fact outperform the Radeon 9700 Pro in most ways, and in the ways that we regard as most important.

We stand by our award.

If it makes any of you feel any better, I did speak with ATI representatives several times from November through January about the availability of the R350, and ATI confirmed that it was not eligible for our awards this time around. I do expect the R350 to outperform the GeForce FX in many ways, and to be a greater commercial success; the open question is which chip will offer superior overall performance.

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Thanks, guys.
My thanks to you all for giving me a rare fond feeling of nostalgia for the good old days. I mastered the art of flaming before many of you were even born. Mastered it, and moved on. I'm invulnerable to it now. Running and participating in various political and technical BBSs across the country from the '70s through the '90s helped me get the job I have today, where I make a good honest living by studying, thinking, and writing about the most advanced microprocessors on the market.

If any of you had the brains to wipe your own asses, you'd have long since found all the evidence you need to support our award, but you're simply not trying.

Just for the record, I don't get paid by Nvidia for my work, except insofar as there are some Nvidia people who subscribe to Microprocessor Report. There are also subscribers from ATI and other graphics-chip companies. They, and all of our subscribers, have already received the full text of the article in which I explain our award, and theirs are the only opinions of our work that matter to me.

Other than that, I'm not going to bother cleaning up any of the crap I've seen posted here. What I wrote originally is clear enough, and provides an adequate explanation of the GeForce FX's eligibility for the award. Read it, or don't, it's up to you.

Kyleb, I have to say I really like that photoshopped image. I'll make sure Jensen Huang and the marketing people at Nvidia see it. I'm sure they'll get as big a kick out of it as I did; they all have a great sense of humor. It may also provide a laugh for the folks I know at ATI, who also make great graphics chips. I mean this seriously, it's funny as hell, and a high point of my career.

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Re: Thanks, guys.
Kyleb--

I've had a lot of people insult me over the years, but I've literally never had anyone go to the trouble of creating an artistic work to do it. I'm flattered. With a name like "Glaskowsky," I had to learn pretty early not to be overly bothered by insults. I'm not a glass cow on skis, and I'm not Jensen's puppet, but both are funny jokes. Once, anyway.

You're correct to infer that we put particular emphasis on the GeForce FX's programmability. Raw pixels or texels per second doesn't mean as much today as it used to. In the long run, programmability will completely revolutionize the way graphics chips are designed and used. (Indeed, a comment I made to that effect was picked up and quoted in an NVIDIA press release on Cg.) Other features of the GeForce FX such as its 32-bit floating-point datapath are, in our opinion, essential to making full use of DirectX 9.0 during the planned lifetime of the NV3x and R3xx families.

I bring this up against my better judgement, having explained all of this at greater length in the articles I've written about these chips during 2002, because I wanted to address your comment about Cg.

The fact is that Cg is not a proprietary language-- it's just that Nvidia has a proprietary compiler. That's what you said too, but you seemed to interpret that fact as meaning that Nvidia could have "the means to control and ultimately destroy the industry." Languages aren't controlled by the companies that make the compilers, but by those who control the syntax. Microsoft controls the syntax of the DirectX high-level shading language, which is the language inside Cg. Nvidia is actually performing a valuable service to the industry by ensuring that Cg supports OpenGL and non-Windows platforms.

I do play video games, when I have time. I have a PS2 and an Xbox, and a PC in the living room with a steering wheel and a low chair. I like playing driving games more than anything else, y'see. I really enjoy going through the leading FPS games just to admire the awesome effort that goes into them, but I've never had the luxury of getting competitive on FPS games. I can drive cars in Gran Turismo, Grand Prix Legends, Sports Car GT, and F1 2001 pretty well. That's accomplishment enough for me.

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all taken from a thread about the award here on nvnews. the trhead was a lot more interesting before the mods got a hold of it but it is still a worthy read for anyone interested in the topic. btw, i am kyleb over there and he insulted me first, i mearly responded how i saw fit.

 

[Creig]

Just from reading his responses to comments/flames I can tell that the guy is an egotistic know-it-all and it would be a waste of my time to read his drivel. ANYBODY who refers to himself "the most highly respected technology analyst in the graphics industry" obviously has an over-inflated ego. And comments like "I am aware of all of the facts regarding the GeForce FX and its competition-- better than any of you", "I mastered the art of flaming before many of you were even born" & "If any of you had the brains to wipe your own asses" only serve to prove this.

Every day that I come to AnandTech I'm reminded of its creator, Anand Lal Shimpi. He is simply the most knowledgeable, fluent and intelligent hardware reviewer/writer I've ever come across.