No you weren't. You said "There are more straight men than gay men". Which has nothing to do with 15 peoples ability to detect someones sexual orientation in 50 milliseconds.
You were saying that there are more strait men than gay men which is actually untrue. In the study there were 90 pictures, 45 of them of gay men, 45 of them of straight men. So in fact there were and equal amount of gay and straight men shown to the 15 people who took the test. So "pure guessing" would net about 50% accuracy.
sdifox
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subjects could accurately determine in 50 milliseconds ? one-twentieth of a second ? whether the men were gay or straight about 60 percent of the time
That is what I was commenting on. Not on how they setup the pictures. In the real world, there are more straight men than gay men. Unless you want to dispute that.
jonks
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who needs a study to tell them that gaydar is real?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TT4XO3Hjp7M
do you really need a picture of this guy on his knees for proof?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TT4XO3Hjp7M
do you really need a picture of this guy on his knees for proof?
This is true. But only if you failed statistics.
Statistical methods required for this sort of publication account for the number of observations. If the data indicate that there is a statistically significant difference with only 15 people, then the data are pretty consistent.
Your explanation about simple factors of probability and how it relates to me be wrong is completely mind-blowing and I can't possibly believe, with the overwhelming response you so diligently typed out, that I even said that in the first place.
That is what I could have said if you had actually decided to explain your reasoning and why you seem to think correlation = causation. But in reality, a test group of 15 subjects, while meeting the minimum number required for an fair pool of data, could coincidentally guess correctly 55-70 percent of the time. There are too many outside factors that could influence this. Is the person guessing gay or straight? Are the people they are guessing about all wearing the same clothing? Are the gay ones dressed flamboyantly? Are the straight ones dressed in a real tough guy manner? The point I'm making is that the very first line of this article ("Not only does "gaydar" exist, suggests a study out of Tufts University, but it can work pretty fast.") is just taking data and implying that the concept behind it is infallible. The only thing this does is show that one of the following is true: Either a group of people had sheer dumb luck, or the sample of pictures had some people with stereotypical gay styles/mannerisms.
This is ATOT, not a classroom. If you want a statistics lesson, you're going to have to get in line and pay for it like all the other rich kids that pay my salary.
No, it means I understand what I'm talking about enough for students to pay $100 per lecture for me to tell them about it. Try to keep up. Get back to me when you figure out what a T-test is and how it might apply to the current topic.
queenrobot
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Hmmm... I wonder if there are individuals that set off gaydar more consistently. That would be more interesting IMO. edit: and accurately.
IOW:
60% of gaydar pings come out correct.
but 1 source pings back with 90% accuracy.
IOW:
60% of gaydar pings come out correct.
but 1 source pings back with 90% accuracy.
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