Gavin Newsom is going to go for guns ala Texas style

[[DHT]Osiris]

it shifts responsibility to a third party that has no bearing on what happens after it is sold.

It is the equivalent of suing Ford because a Ford vehicle hit you.

Not my problem, if Republicans didn't want their specific snowflake sectors of our society to be affected by their shenanigans, they shouldn't have shenaniganned.

 

[fskimospy]

it shifts responsibility to a third party that has no bearing on what happens after it is sold.

It is the equivalent of suing Ford because a Ford vehicle hit you.

All of these laws are terrible ideas but what California is doing is good. They are essentially attempting to force SCOTUS to be responsible after the disaster they inflicted on the country with their Texas abortion ruling. Someone has to be the grownup here and it looks like it’s the states telling SCOTUS to grow up.

 

[fskimospy]

Prepare for more Calvinball from the SCOTUS.

I do expect them to strike down the bounty provisions in all laws just due to the chaos it’s causing but yes I wouldn’t put it entirely beyond them to come up with some Calvinball where bounties for abortions are ok but others aren’t.

 

[hal2kilo]

Well, car companies advertise you should always handle your vehicle safely but liquor companies generally show people partying and getting crazy and having careless fun.
You MIGHT have a case on the same basis as Remington.

Hell, they seem damn proud these days to push Day Drinking. Maybe it's just on cable though.

 

[Brainonska511]

Well, car companies advertise you should always handle your vehicle safely but liquor companies generally show people partying and getting crazy and having careless fun.
You MIGHT have a case on the same basis as Remington.

LOL - car companies are hardly the paragons of innocence in advertising safe handling of a vehicle. Vehicles portrayed speeding through cities, bad weather, etc...

 

[ch33zw1z]

LOL - car companies are hardly the paragons of innocence in advertising safe handling of a vehicle. Vehicles portrayed speeding through cities, bad weather, etc...

In the same vein, tire advertising is the same.

 

[darkswordsman17]

WTF x2

My post quadruple posted, then disappeared?

 

[darkswordsman17]

WTF? x3

 

[HomerJS]

I do expect them to strike down the bounty provisions in all laws just due to the chaos it’s causing but yes I wouldn’t put it entirely beyond them to come up with some Calvinball where bounties for abortions are ok but others aren’t.

If they really cared about the chaos, why didn't they just block the Texas law from going into effect? They could have used that rationale.

This is why I like what Newsome is doing. It smokes out SCOTUS for their true colors, partisan political hacks.

Whoever from CA gets an emergency hearing to block the law from going into effect I can't wait to hear CA's solicitor use SCOTUS's own ruling against them.

 

[fskimospy]

If they really cared about the chaos, why didn't they just block the Texas law from going into effect? They could have used that rationale.

This is why I like what Newsome is doing. It smokes out SCOTUS for their true colors, partisan political hacks.

Whoever from CA gets an emergency hearing to block the law from going into effect I can't wait to hear CA's solicitor use SCOTUS's own ruling against them.

I think they are probably playing a cynical game where they are trying to make gutting roe seem more ‘balanced’ where they will find the bounty provision unconstitutional while eliminating a right to abortion.

 

[uclaLabrat]

I think they are probably playing a cynical game where they are trying to make gutting roe seem more ‘balanced’ where they will find the bounty provision unconstitutional while eliminating a right to abortion.

This article pretty much highlights your argument, that the judges will build in enough ambiguity and flexibility to give them cover to implement their judicial calvinball. For abortion well there's no textual right in the constitution, and the current law doesn't provide a mechanism to sue as designed.

Oh for guns? Oh nah yeah that's explicitly spelled out.

Vox.com: The Supreme Court is not being honest with you.

Amy Coney Barrett is not being honest about what the Supreme Court is up to

Justice Amy Coney Barrett appears to be quite unfamiliar with her own judicial record, and that of her colleagues.

www.vox.com

 

[fskimospy]

This article pretty much highlights your argument, that the judges will build in enough ambiguity and flexibility to give them cover to implement their judicial calvinball. For abortion well there's no textual right in the constitution, and the current law doesn't provide a mechanism to sue as designed.

Oh for guns? Oh nah yeah that's explicitly spelled out.

Vox.com: The Supreme Court is not being honest with you.

Amy Coney Barrett is not being honest about what the Supreme Court is up to

Justice Amy Coney Barrett appears to be quite unfamiliar with her own judicial record, and that of her colleagues.

www.vox.com

Yes, the major questions doctrine shows this perfectly. When it’s something they like, the text of the law is sufficient. When they don’t, they magically decide Congress had to be more specific.

 

[compuwiz1]

Newsom remains a highly unpopular fucking dumb ass in the powerful elite food chain. The only reason he wasn't recalled is because the people weren't going for RWNJ, Larry Elder.

 

[hal2kilo]

LOL - car companies are hardly the paragons of innocence in advertising safe handling of a vehicle. Vehicles portrayed speeding through cities, bad weather, etc...

Yea, but if you get a magnifying glass you will see the fine print about driving on a closed course.

 

[uclaLabrat]

Newsom remains a highly unpopular fucking dumb ass in the powerful elite food chain. The only reason he wasn't recalled is because the people weren't going for RWNJ, Larry Elder.

Ok there cleetus.

 

[VRAMdemon]

Tennessee is mulling a law that would make anyone with a gun permit a cop.

Tennessee bill would designate some gun owners as law enforcement

Police groups and gun control advocates are sounding the alarm after state leaders proposed designating hundreds of thousands of gun owners members of law enforcement.

abcnews.go.com

“Cops” shooting “cops,” followed very quickly by cops shooting “cops.”

 

[rommelrommel]

Tennessee is mulling a law that would make anyone with a gun permit a cop.

Tennessee bill would designate some gun owners as law enforcement

Police groups and gun control advocates are sounding the alarm after state leaders proposed designating hundreds of thousands of gun owners members of law enforcement.

abcnews.go.com

“Cops” shooting “cops,” followed very quickly by cops shooting “cops.”

That‘s not at all what that law would do. It’s just a dodge to let people carry in places that they currently can’t. Still dumb but not that dumb.

 

[brycejones]

That‘s not at all what that law would do. It’s just a dodge to let people carry in places that they currently can’t. Still dumb but not that dumb.

So property owners have zero rights to decide if guns are permitted on their property. Nice.