Gave up on Kubuntu, tried Suse Linux 9.3. Works perfectly.

Lepard

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I burned a DVD copy of Suse Linux 9.3 this morning and proceeded to install it on my PC. The install went fine and im posting this message from Linux :) :) :) . Im very impressed by the fluidity of the OS. It feels so much lighter than XP and more responsive. My USB mouse works, although i had to use the OS with the keyboard first. It took me a minute to get into changing the default mouse to USB mouse.

Anyway i have a couple of questions.

1. Where is the "Device Manager"? and how do I know if all the correct drivers are installed?

2. I downloaded the Nforce drivers but i couldn't install it. Not even using YaST. Can someone walk me through?

3. Creative doesn't have drivers for the Audigy for Linux, but the sound card works. Are these drivers OK? Or are they like the drivers WinXP install which only offer minimal features?

4. Are there any high quality games that i can test the system out on?
 

n0cmonkey

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Originally posted by: Lepard
I burned a DVD copy of Suse Linux 9.3 this morning and proceeded to install it on my PC. The install went fine and im posting this message from Linux :) :) :) . Im very impressed by the fluidity of the OS. It feels so much lighter than XP and more responsive. My USB mouse works, although i had to use the OS with the keyboard first. It took me a minute to get into changing the default mouse to USB mouse.

Anyway i have a couple of questions.

1. Where is the "Device Manager"? and how do I know if all the correct drivers are installed?

You're thinking of Windows. If the device works, the correct driver is installed.

2. I downloaded the Nforce drivers but i couldn't install it. Not even using YaST. Can someone walk me through?

Why couldn't you install it? What's incomplete about the directions nVidia gives you?

3. Creative doesn't have drivers for the Audigy for Linux, but the sound card works. Are these drivers OK? Or are they like the drivers WinXP install which only offer minimal features?

They're the drivers you should use. I wouldn't trust Creative to write a decent driver.

4. Are there any high quality games that i can test the system out on?

Q3. Some unreal tournament version.
 

drag

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I wouldn't bother with nvidia's nforce drivers unless you have something that you need to get working.. such as sound or network. The open source drivers are perfectly adiquate as long as they support everything on your system.

There is no 'device manager' do-dad for Linux. There is hal-device-manager and Suse probably has it's own Yast thing, but those are not complete. If you want the final truth on the matter your going to have to use the command line.

lsmod
is a command that will show what modules are loaded. Those modules represent drivers that are compiled seperately from the rest of the kernel and are loaded into the kernel code memory space when you need the aditional functionality.

there are other commands such as:
lspci -v

which will show detailed information about what has been detected on the PCI bus. Also if you go into /proc directory you can find files that have information on cpu type speed, interrupts, and memory addresses among other things. Explore around their.

If everything is working don't bother mucking around with this stuff though.

Sound on nforce boards is limited though in because it doesn't support hardware mixing. Since your using KDE your going to have the artsd sound server running which intercepts sound from kde applications and mixes them before sending it to the sound card.

This is good because kde apps will have all the sound you need, but this is bad because artsd will have a tendancy to hog your sound card and not let any other non-kde apps control play sound.

This can be partially fixed by enabling dmix to get alsa-level software mixing enabled. There are numerious docs on the internet on how to do this.

For games check out:
vegastrike
Doom3
Ut2004
and innumeral others.
http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
http://www.happypenguin.org/

so on and so forth.

unfortunately I don't know much about Suse or howto use Yast.


 

sourceninja

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Yea, if your hardware works, your fine. The only exception to this is 3d drivers from nvidia / ati. But Suse should have a rpm package in yast for this.

As for games.

I play UT2004
Doom 3
NWN
Savage (fps /rts)
scourge
and using cedega (www.transgaming.com)
warcraft 3
guild wars
hl2 and cs:s


Other games I play
glest (3d rts)
warzone2100 (rts)

and of course tuxnes for nintendo
gens for sega
zsnes for super nintendo


You might also check out tuxgames.com for more games that run on linux. I've also heard that you can use a version of wine with dx9 for some games cedega doesn't work well with.
 

Lepard

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I was thinking since when you do a clean install of Windows, your AGP card will not operate in "AGP Mode" until you install the chipset drivers. Everything seems to be working fine though.

Couple of things still:

1. When im listening to MP3s and i minimize Firefox (or any other window for that matter) the sound would skip. I use Realplayer 10 for playing music.

2. My monitor doesn't have any drivers installed. I want to use at least 75Hz, not 60Hz. My monitor is a Viewsonic VP171B-2. I know it shouldn't matter, but it does.

3. Is there a "Show Desktop" command anywhere on SuSE Linux? I've gotten used to that.

Ill try ZSNES, Gens, Mame. UT2004 as well. Ill also check out Tuxgames.com

Thanks.
 

drag

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1..
Don't use realplayer for music. There are lots of superior applications..

Sound is a sticking point for Linux. Since your using Suse your probably using KDE. KDE uses artsd as a sound manager for the desktop. If you choose a KDE application that uses artsd then you can go into the kde control panel and fiddle around with the artsd settings. Buy giving it a longer delay/more buffers/periods you can increase the sound latency and reduce the tendancy to skip.

If you end up finding a app that doesn't use artsd to play music and you want to stop sound skipping altogether you can use 'nice' to give the sound program elevated priority.

Nice range goes from -20 to 19. The more unnice something is, the more the OS favors it. By default, all the proccesses that you start as the user use the niceness level of 0. So if you have a mp3 music do-dad that your using you can go, from a unix shell (like your x terminal):
go
ps aux | grep -i <progname>
and find out the PID number of the proccess. Also there are GUI tools that can show you this.

So for realplayer 10 you can try:
ps aux | grep -i real

and hopefully that will give a result. The pid number is the number that comes after your username. Different command line options of 'ps' will change the location of the pid number column.

Then you use that PID number and do something like this:
sudo renice -5 18124

So if you want to listen to music for a long time with no skips you can do that.

Also there will probably be GUI apps that will accomplish the same thing (find the pid number of a object and/or changing the priority of a application)

Also it's handy for when your doing things like running a SETI number-crunching program. You can give it a very nice value of 16 or whatnot and then it would only use CPU if no other proccess needs it, so you can leave it running continiously without having any real effect on desktop performance.

But first thing to try is to try something other then Realplayer. There are many options. I don't have any issues with sound skipping, personally, except when restarting X and whatnot. Maybe be something paticular to Suse.

Also check out and make sure that you have your DMA access to your disks turned on. You can use the command line utility 'hdparm' to do this, but Suse may have the ability to have Yast to do it. Unfortunately I am not that familar with Suse.

Buy having DMA access activated you will increase the speed and the efficiency of your disk activity.

2...

Monitors don't realy have 'drivers' per say. In Windows a 'monitor driver' is just a ini text file containing the make and name of the monitor and it's range of usefull horizontal and verticle frequencies.

In Linux it's behavior is controlled by the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file. (XF86Config on older systems)...

Now with Suse you can probably configure it thru Yast, but I am used to editing the file directly. (always make a backup copy before editing it.)

In that file you'll find a section that looks like this:
Section "Monitor"
blah
blah
blah
EndSection

Here is mine:

Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Generic Monitor"
Option "DPMS"
HorizSync 28-49
VertRefresh 43-72
EndSection

The important parts is the HorizSync and VertRefresh entries.

Make sure that those match the specs for your monitor.

Sometimes you'll see that they use the old-fasioned modlines.. I hate those.

But most of this should be configurable thru yast, I beleive.

X will automaticly select acceptable refresh rates based on your resolution.. I don't know of any way to force it to select a refresh rate that you don't like... unfortunately.

3.

There should be.

In Gnome on my System if I right click on the panel and select "add to panel" selection I can pick from a veriaty of little applets.. one of them being 'Show desktop' button.

I don't know about KDE, but I expect that they have something similar. If not aviable by default you can most defiantely find something usefull on the web to add on to it.
 

sourceninja

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screen resolutions are set in the screen's section of the xorg.conf

# **********************************************************************
# Screen sections
# **********************************************************************

# Any number of screen sections may be present. Each describes
# the configuration of a single screen. A single specific screen section
# may be specified from the X server command line with the "-screen"
# option.
Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen 1"
Device "Nvidia 6800"
Monitor "Monitor 1"
DefaultDepth 24

Subsection "Display"
Depth 8
Modes "1600x1200" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
ViewPort 0 0
EndSubsection
Subsection "Display"
Depth 16
Modes "1600x1200" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
ViewPort 0 0
EndSubsection
Subsection "Display"
Depth 24
Modes "1600x1200" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
ViewPort 0 0
EndSubsection
EndSection


It will autouse the highest res in the default depth, but allow for res changes.