Gates foundation gives $150 million to Africa

[JEDI]

Topic Title: Gates foundation gives $150 million to Africa
Topic Summary: Excuse me but dont we have starving kids here?

America is the land of the plenty, where even poor kids here are FAT!

 

[classy]

Originally posted by: SampSon
It's fashionable to give money to Africa. Though nothing ever helps them and nothing ever will (read: vast overpopulation in an area that can never sustain it).

:roll:
Yea so lets just let'em starve to death

 

[DaShen]

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

Originally posted by: txrandom
We care more about people in other countries then our own. Just look at immigration and the Iraqi War.

This is a private donation from a private trust. This isn't your tax dollars at work. No reason to be pissed.

That said... JS80 is 100% correct. Unless Bill is personally working the soup line and dosing the meds, that money is headed straight for a Swiss bank acct.

What is sad is that this is at least partially true.

 

[tyler811]

Some people here are easily taken in. Thanks everyone I just won $20 in bet.

edit: By the way I do not care what Bill does with his money. I sincerely hope he can make a difference.

 

[suicidalpigeon]

Originally posted by: tyler811
Some people here are easily taken in. Thanks everyone I just won $20 in bet.

 

[PottedMeat]

This probably isn't a instant -$150,000,000 from the foundation - the site says 'The end goal is that within 20 years, farmers will double or even triple their yields and sell the surplus at market.' Besides help is far more available here in the US than there.

 

[theeedude]

Do we have kids starving? I thought obesity was one of the biggest problems for poor kids in the US?

 

[jpeyton]

Originally posted by: tyler811
Some people here are easily taken in. Thanks everyone I just won $20 in bet.

edit: By the way I do not care what Bill does with his money. I sincerely hope he can make a difference.

What was the bet? That you can't make a quality thread worth your life?

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: tyler811
Some people here are easily taken in. Thanks everyone I just won $20 in bet.

edit: By the way I do not care what Bill does with his money. I sincerely hope he can make a difference.

Congratulations, you're a $20 richer douche.

 

[tyler811]

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: tyler811
Some people here are easily taken in. Thanks everyone I just won $20 in bet.

edit: By the way I do not care what Bill does with his money. I sincerely hope he can make a difference.

What was the bet? That you can't make a quality thread worth your life?

People like you

 

[jagec]

Originally posted by: SampSon
It's fashionable to give money to Africa. Though nothing ever helps them and nothing ever will (read: vast overpopulation in an area that can never sustain it).

Overpopulation isn't the issue in Africa. India and China, maybe, but Africa would be more than capable of feeding itself if it weren't for all of its other problems.

Originally posted by: tyler811
Keep your rolling eyeballs to yourself and yes I have been out country quite a few times. Open your eyes to the state of issues in this country. I have traveled in this country and other countries doing volunteer work. Many parts of our country look as bad some third world countries.

Ask before you speak and insert your foot

I have been around this country, good parts and bad parts, and in several others, and for far, far longer than a week-long escorted volunteer trip. I grew up in a rural area in the third world. I think I might know a thing or two about the relative wealth of those people compared to even the poorest people in America. You simply cannot compare this country to the third world. At all.

Still, if anyone knows the realities of charitable giving, and how to actually make the money work, it's Bill Gates. He seems to put a lot more thought into it than simply writing checks.

 

[tyler811]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: tyler811
Some people here are easily taken in. Thanks everyone I just won $20 in bet.

edit: By the way I do not care what Bill does with his money. I sincerely hope he can make a difference.

Congratulations, you're a $20 richer douche.

And people like you

 

[tyler811]

Originally posted by: jagec

Originally posted by: SampSon
It's fashionable to give money to Africa. Though nothing ever helps them and nothing ever will (read: vast overpopulation in an area that can never sustain it).

Overpopulation isn't the issue in Africa. India and China, maybe, but Africa would be more than capable of feeding itself if it weren't for all of its other problems.

Originally posted by: tyler811
Keep your rolling eyeballs to yourself and yes I have been out country quite a few times. Open your eyes to the state of issues in this country. I have traveled in this country and other countries doing volunteer work. Many parts of our country look as bad some third world countries.

Ask before you speak and insert your foot

I have been around this country, good parts and bad parts, and in several others, and for far, far longer than a week-long escorted volunteer trip. I grew up in a rural area in the third world. I think I might know a thing or two about the relative wealth of those people compared to even the poorest people in America. You simply cannot compare this country to the third world. At all.

Still, if anyone knows the realities of charitable giving, and how to actually make the money work, it's Bill Gates. He seems to put a lot more thought into it than simply writing checks.

Week long escorted never done that before. Now some friends and I did make out our travel plans and spend a month in Central America in the late 80's. We spent the time rebuilding villages that were destroyed by rival factions

 

[miniMUNCH]

Originally posted by: tfinch2
This just in:

It's not your fvcking money.

Exactly^2.

 

[Howard]

Originally posted by: classy

Originally posted by: SampSon
It's fashionable to give money to Africa. Though nothing ever helps them and nothing ever will (read: vast overpopulation in an area that can never sustain it).

:roll:
Yea so lets just let'em starve to death

Why do we have a responsibility to feed them?

 

[lyssword]

I heard about bill gate's discussion on donations, and he is very smart about where the money will go. They have been testing alot of distribution methods, and continually monitor and improve their system, to make sure the money go to the right people.

 

[ultimatebob]

Originally posted by: tyler811
I think we need to take care of the people in the US first

Microsoft already has the US hooked on Windows and Office, silly. We gotta rescue and train those poor starving Africans on Microsoft products so we can outsource more technology and manufacturing jobs there!

Best of all, Billy G gets a big tax break from it! Genious!

 

[Strk]

Originally posted by: lyssword
I heard about bill gate's discussion on donations, and he is very smart about where the money will go. They have been testing alot of distribution methods, and continually monitor and improve their system, to make sure the money go to the right people.

In an interview on Charlie Rose, he went through what his foundation has to do when dealing with governments. I don't remember the specifics, but he explained how they work with/around the "how to fund your local corrupt government" problem that comes with donations, which, sadly, aren't just a developing world problem -- although developing countries sure know how to waste large sums of cash and show no improvement.

 

[TheNinja]

Originally posted by: Howard

Originally posted by: classy

Originally posted by: SampSon
It's fashionable to give money to Africa. Though nothing ever helps them and nothing ever will (read: vast overpopulation in an area that can never sustain it).

:roll:
Yea so lets just let'em starve to death

Why do we have a responsibility to feed them?

We have a responsibility as fellow human beings to feed them. And I agree that the kids in 3rd world countries need the help worse. They have absolutely no chance at life without help. At least in the US you have a chance no matter what.

 

[SampSon]

Originally posted by: classy

Originally posted by: SampSon
It's fashionable to give money to Africa. Though nothing ever helps them and nothing ever will (read: vast overpopulation in an area that can never sustain it).

:roll:
Yea so lets just let'em starve to death

Feeding them only delays their starvation for a short time. It also makes said person dependent.

Overpopulation isn't the issue in Africa. India and China, maybe, but Africa would be more than capable of feeding itself if it weren't for all of its other problems.

Overpopulation was a bad choice of words. The issue isn't overpopulation as it relates to population density. The problem is "overpopulation" as it relates to carrying capacity of an area.

 

[Shame]

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: tyler811
Some people here are easily taken in. Thanks everyone I just won $20 in bet.

edit: By the way I do not care what Bill does with his money. I sincerely hope he can make a difference.

What was the bet? That you can't make a quality thread worth your life?

His sure bet was that you would probably spew your mindless leftist trash idiocy in OT rather than P&N. Easy money...

 

[jagec]

Originally posted by: SampSon
Overpopulation was a bad choice of words. The issue isn't overpopulation as it relates to population density. The problem is "overpopulation" as it relates to carrying capacity of an area.

But it's not even a question of carrying capacity. Hunger tends to be a political problem, not an environmental problem. The stable African countries usually don't lack for food.

 

[chuckywang]

This thread should be good.

 

[tyler811]

Originally posted by: jagec

Originally posted by: SampSon
Overpopulation was a bad choice of words. The issue isn't overpopulation as it relates to population density. The problem is "overpopulation" as it relates to carrying capacity of an area.

But it's not even a question of carrying capacity. Hunger tends to be a political problem, not an environmental problem. The stable African countries usually don't lack for food.

I agree that it is a politcal one but also an enviromental one. Some years ago Central Africa was in the midst of its worst drought. I remember seeing miles and miles of nothing but hard crusted ground. The dry farmland went so far into the horizon that the two just blended together. Something akin to an empty stadium parking lot. It as really quite sad.

 

[chambersc]

Originally posted by: jagec

Originally posted by: tyler811
I think we need to take care of the people in the US first

Spoken like someone who's never left the country:roll:

US kids are FAR better off than African kids, and unless you actually believe that Americans have more value as human beings, Gates' decision makes all the sense in the world.

QFMFT!