Gary Johnson: "You ARE Libertarian"

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leper84

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Both philosophies are most commonly represented by privileged white college kids certain they've figured everything out, if only everyone else wasn't too stupid to understand it.

See thats funny because I know a whole bunch of working class people of all ages who identify with Libertarianism. Not privileged white people, people who've had to work their entire lives for every single last thing they own...
 

nextJin

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Note how I said "in general"? Reading comprehension, learn it.

There is nothing "in general" about it, I could come out and say all Democrats in general are socialists but that doesn't mean they are "in general".

Any libertarian who considers themselves anarchists or who have those views can say they are libertarian all they want.
 

bfdd

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I'm digging the Gary Johnson movement, dude stands for a lot of what I believe in and I'm for moderate/less regulation. I believe with less non-sense we can focus on what really matters and enforce it better instead of trying to micromanage everything in everyones lives. Gary Johnson has secured my vote #LegalizeLiberty
 

werepossum

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I'm digging the Gary Johnson movement, dude stands for a lot of what I believe in and I'm for moderate/less regulation. I believe with less non-sense we can focus on what really matters and enforce it better instead of trying to micromanage everything in everyones lives. Gary Johnson has secured my vote #LegalizeLiberty
Well said.

Whether or not I vote for Gary Johnson depends almost totally on whether I'm pissed at Obama at the time of the election.
 

Abraxas

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If your grammar was correct, I could comprehend what you've written. Unfortunately (or perhaps fortunately), it's terrible and makes your ideas illegible.

Actually, while not perfect, my grammar is just fine. Everyone else understood what I said, as did you until it became convenient to try to blame me for not reading my post carefully. Also, you don't need a comma in your first sentence; it is unnecessary.

There is nothing "in general" about it, I could come out and say all Democrats in general are socialists but that doesn't mean they are "in general".

Any libertarian who considers themselves anarchists or who have those views can say they are libertarian all they want.
The whole anarchism bit is a red herring. I never once said anything about complete abolition of the government. However, it is fair to say that the libertarian movement in general is in favor of deregulation of the market to a large degree. It is likewise fair to say that libertarians, in general, favor cutting regulatory agencies. For example, let's go to the Libertarian Party websites.

The FDA:

http://www.lp.org/issues/healthcare

We should replace harmful government agencies like the Food & Drug Administration (FDA) with more agile, free-market alternatives.

OSHA

http://kevincraig.us/www.lp.org/issues/platform/occusafe.html

Transitional Action: We call for the repeal of the Occupational Safety and Health Act.

The SEC:

http://www.dehnbase.org/lpus/library/platform/faci.html

We call for the abolition of all regulation of financial and capital markets -- specifically, the abolition of the Securities and Exchange Commission,

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I can go on but the point is well established, cutting government oversight isn't something a few libertarians believe in, it is, in general, what libertarians believe. It is an official part of their platform. That you are actually disputing this is baffling.
 

nextJin

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Not once did you mention replacing them with free market alternatives. When you say "gut them" along with "in general" without ever mentioning our alternatives with pros and cons for each you're avoiding rational thought and critical thinking. You effectively tried to avoid any arguements likely unintentionally.

Thank you for positing the links so others can do their own research.
 

CycloWizard

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Actually, while not perfect, my grammar is just fine. Everyone else understood what I said, as did you until it became convenient to try to blame me for not reading my post carefully. Also, you don't need a comma in your first sentence; it is unnecessary.
Your earlier post barely resembles written English.
Note how I said "in general"? Reading comprehension, learn it.
This should have been written as follows:
Note how I said, "In general?" Reading comprehension: learn it.
Even at that it barely makes sense since the word order is completely incorrect for the English language. Muddled ideas come across even less clearly when written incorrectly.
 

dank69

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Your earlier post barely resembles written English.

This should have been written as follows:

Even at that it barely makes sense since the word order is completely incorrect for the English language. Muddled ideas come across even less clearly when written incorrectly.

You are wrong about the position of the question mark.

See rule 2 here.
 

Abraxas

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Your earlier post barely resembles written English.

This should have been written as follows:

Even at that it barely makes sense since the word order is completely incorrect for the English language. Muddled ideas come across even less clearly when written incorrectly.

Dank already showed how you got the question mark wrong but you got the word order objection wrong too. What I did is called left-dislocation and it uses a comma, not a colon.

What, are you the Sergeant Schultz of grammar Nazis? "I know nothing!" :biggrin:

It's a sad life blaming everyone else for your failures; just admit you made a mistake and misread my post instead of continuing to make yourself look worse by demonstrating you not only fail at reading but fail at grammar too.

http://www.translationdirectory.com/articles/article1725.php#Topicalization
 
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Abraxas

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Not once did you mention replacing them with free market alternatives. When you say "gut them" along with "in general" without ever mentioning our alternatives with pros and cons for each you're avoiding rational thought and critical thinking. You effectively tried to avoid any arguements likely unintentionally.

Thank you for positing the links so others can do their own research.

Right, because you have no specified alternatives. Notice how it kept saying "free market alternatives" but never indicated what they would be? There is absolutely no reason to expect businesses to regulate themselves without oversight with the force to do something about their misbehavior. Tell me, what is the free market solution to maintaining the integrity of banks? Self regulation, just like they did with the LIBOR scandal or the collapse in 2008? I didn't mention free market alternatives for the same reason I didn't mention leprechauns, they aren't real and you certainly can't count on them to make the system work.