Garnett's heading to the Celtics

[Reckoner]

Celts are trading Al Jefferson, Gerald Green, Telfair, Gomes, Ratliff and a future #1 pick for Garnett.

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[OneOfTheseDays]

congrats Boston fans, you are now relevant again in the NBA. this deal will allow them to compete for 3-4 years, but the cupboard will be bare once they leave. $54 million between their top 3 players.....not much room to sign anyone else to fill out the PG and C spots. Still, they will take the East with ease next year.

 

[vi edit]

Woah. Ray Ray, Garnett and Pierce? That's one hell of a starting 5. They are getting old and busted, but that's some serious talent and experience.

 

[Mr Incognito]

I wish we didn't give up so much but we need to be a contender now. Having Garnett will allow us to at least compete and hopefully put together a solid team by the time Garnett's body falls apart.

 

[Capt Caveman]

A chance for a 3-4 year run and then back to the cellar.

 

[rsd]

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
A chance for a 3-4 year run and then back to the cellar.

Give me a 3-4 year window rather than being mediocre/"young" for another 4-6.

 

[Capt Caveman]

I guess you're right. I can't count the number of times I've been offered free Celtics tickets and turned them down.

 

[StinkyMojo]

I say they still miss the playoffs..

edit: forgot it was the Eastern Conference for a second.. Playoffs will be easy you would think.. but Bulls look scary.

 

[skooma]

Originally posted by: rsd

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
A chance for a 3-4 year run and then back to the cellar.

Give me a 3-4 year window rather than being mediocre/"young" for another 4-6.

no kidding.


and i told you all

 

[hdeck]

6 players for 1? i'll wait until espn reports it.

 

[yowolabi]

Originally posted by: rsd

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
A chance for a 3-4 year run and then back to the cellar.

Give me a 3-4 year window rather than being mediocre/"young" for another 4-6.

Exactly. By getting Ray Allen, they already committed to a "win now" philosophy. This makes it actually possible. Without this they were going to get worse eventually anyway without any guarantee at having been competitive before that happened.

 

[Reckoner]

Originally posted by: hdeck
6 players for 1? i'll wait until espn reports it.

Future #1 pick, so it's 5 players for 1 (for now)

 

[jlarsson]

Originally posted by: OneOfTheseDays
congrats Boston fans, you are now relevant again in the NBA. this deal will allow them to compete for 3-4 years, but the cupboard will be bare once they leave. $54 million between their top 3 players.....not much room to sign anyone else to fill out the PG and C spots. Still, they will take the East with ease next year.

I'm not so concerned with the years after the contracts are over. That's $54 million (plus any adjustments due to an increasing cap number) of money to throw around at other big-name players.

I'm more concerned with 2-3 years down the road. KG, Pierce and especially Ray Allen aren't exactly in their prime. Having your 3 "stars" in their mid to late 30's probably isn't a recipe for success. Bottom line though, if this trade does in fact go through, it greatly improves the team for the next 1-3 years (especially considering how weak the East is).

 

[rise]

Having your 3 "stars" in their mid to late 30's probably isn't a recipe for success.

lol.

 

[rsd]

Originally posted by: jlarsson

Originally posted by: OneOfTheseDays
congrats Boston fans, you are now relevant again in the NBA. this deal will allow them to compete for 3-4 years, but the cupboard will be bare once they leave. $54 million between their top 3 players.....not much room to sign anyone else to fill out the PG and C spots. Still, they will take the East with ease next year.

I'm not so concerned with the years after the contracts are over. That's $54 million (plus any adjustments due to an increasing cap number) of money to throw around at other big-name players.

I'm more concerned with 2-3 years down the road. KG, Pierce and especially Ray Allen aren't exactly in their prime. Having your 3 "stars" in their mid to late 30's probably isn't a recipe for success. Bottom line though, if this trade does in fact go through, it greatly improves the team for the next 1-3 years (especially considering how weak the East is).

When those players retire/leave they will have a lot of money off the books. For now, I'm not worried about the money tied up with them, that's the owners' problem.

It's funny fans complain when owners won't spend the big $$, then when they are willing to they complain still.

I think its completely work it if it makes them relevant for the next 3-4 years, because frankly the celtics haven't been really relevant for close to 20 years now.

 

[rsd]

Originally posted by: rise

Having your 3 "stars" in their mid to late 30's probably isn't a recipe for success.

lol.

Ray Allen is 32, Garnett will be 31, and Pierce will be 30. Not that old. What has "youth" won for the celtics lately? I like the young guys but a lot of them need 3-4 more years to develop.

 

[Reckoner]

Originally posted by: jlarsson

Originally posted by: OneOfTheseDays
congrats Boston fans, you are now relevant again in the NBA. this deal will allow them to compete for 3-4 years, but the cupboard will be bare once they leave. $54 million between their top 3 players.....not much room to sign anyone else to fill out the PG and C spots. Still, they will take the East with ease next year.

I'm not so concerned with the years after the contracts are over. That's $54 million (plus any adjustments due to an increasing cap number) of money to throw around at other big-name players.

I'm more concerned with 2-3 years down the road. KG, Pierce and especially Ray Allen aren't exactly in their prime. Having your 3 "stars" in their mid to late 30's probably isn't a recipe for success. Bottom line though, if this trade does in fact go through, it greatly improves the team for the next 1-3 years (especially considering how weak the East is).

Pierce isn't even 30 yet (not till october), garnett's 31, and ray allen's 32. It does seem like they'd be older though since all of 'em have been around the league for a long time. But all 3 of them should have 4-5 good years left in the tank (I hope).

 

[Hacp]

Why didn't they trade Ray Allen/PP away? 3 stars is never going to work. 2 is just stretching it. PP and KG can work fine together. Allen and KG can work fine. PP, Allen, KG together will create trouble. But grats Celtic fans on selling your future for 3 years of losing the eastern conference finals.

 

[rise]

Originally posted by: rsd

Originally posted by: rise

Having your 3 "stars" in their mid to late 30's probably isn't a recipe for success.

lol.

Ray Allen is 32, Garnett will be 31, and Pierce will be 30. Not that old. What has "youth" won for the celtics lately? I like the young guys but a lot of them need 3-4 more years to develop.

if you think that i'm against the deal, you're wrong. nice to see the Celts get relevant again. i was lol'ing at the statement.


edit: you must be from boston, i didn't notice you using "relevant" to describe the Celts again. heck, this has me mind off Pats training camp now

 

[GagHalfrunt]

Pierce and Ray Allen will not happily co-exist as there's only one basketball on the floor at a time. Adding Garnett gives them instant credibility, at least in the weak east. But you still have to figure that Detroit, Cleveland, Chicago and possibly Miami are all better teams than the new Celts. They'll make the playoffs as a 5 seed and probably get bounced in the first round.

 

[rsd]

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
Pierce and Ray Allen will not happily co-exist as there's only one basketball on the floor at a time. Adding Garnett gives them instant credibility, at least in the weak east. But you still have to figure that Detroit, Cleveland, Chicago and possibly Miami are all better teams than the new Celts. They'll make the playoffs as a 5 seed and probably get bounced in the first round.

Umm wow. I'd say they'd be a top 3 team guaranteed. I'm not convinced Cleveland will do much until they get real playes around Lebron. Miami with an aging Shaq is a bit of an unknown, Detroit is on the downside I think, and Chicago has some promise but has yet to live up to much.


I see absolutely no way they lose in the 1st round of the playoffs in the East. NONE.

 

[rsd]

Also why won't they coexist? Because they are all considered "scorers"? If anything Garnett can score a bit without taking too many shots thanks to playing in the paint. If anything I think you got 3 true stars who are all hungry to win a championship. To me that means they will happily coexist.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Latest news:

As the trade currently stands, the Celtics would send Gerald Green, Ryan Gomes, Sebastian Telfair, Theo Ratliff, and two first-round picks to the Timberwolves for Garnett.

Al Jefferson is not included in the deal at the moment.

 

[rsd]

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Latest news:

As the trade currently stands, the Celtics would send Gerald Green, Ryan Gomes, Sebastian Telfair, Theo Ratliff, and two first-round picks to the Timberwolves for Garnett.

Al Jefferson is not included in the deal at the moment.

Yeah I saw that "report". I'd take it with a very large grain of salt. I'm going to assume it includes AJ, but if it doesn't thats a Babe Ruthian type of steal.

 

[skooma]

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Latest news:

As the trade currently stands, the Celtics would send Gerald Green, Ryan Gomes, Sebastian Telfair, Theo Ratliff, and two first-round picks to the Timberwolves for Garnett.

Al Jefferson is not included in the deal at the moment.

nope. jefferson is gone.