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quest55720

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http://www.politico.com/blogs/...o_talk_gas_prices.html

Looks like the GoP will be back on monday to coninue what they started on friday. I am so damn happy about this. Hopefully this will get a ton of press and piss people off enough to force Pelosi to a special session to vote on a real energy bill that includes lifting the drilling bans. It is good to finally see the GoP get its balls back and attack those who want to screw over the working class with high gas prices.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: quest55720
http://www.politico.com/blogs/...o_talk_gas_prices.html

Looks like the GoP will be back on monday to coninue what they started on friday. I am so damn happy about this. Hopefully this will get a ton of press and piss people off enough to force Pelosi to a special session to vote on a real energy bill that includes lifting the drilling bans. It is good to finally see the GoP get its balls back and attack those who want to screw over the working class with high gas prices.

You mean by handing out concessions for the oil companies to explore for oil on public lands FOR FREE?

Yeah, that must take a lot of balls.
 
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Originally posted by: quest55720
http://www.politico.com/blogs/...o_talk_gas_prices.html

Looks like the GoP will be back on monday to coninue what they started on friday. I am so damn happy about this. Hopefully this will get a ton of press and piss people off enough to force Pelosi to a special session to vote on a real energy bill that includes lifting the drilling bans. It is good to finally see the GoP get its balls back and attack those who want to screw over the working class with high gas prices.

The hypocrisy of the GOP is off the charts. For YEARS they fought hard against raising CAFE standards, energy conservation measures, etc and NOW they want to do something? It's just ridiculous grandstanding because they know how f*cked they are thanks to the politics and policies during the Bush administration.
 

frostedflakes

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Originally posted by: Brainonska511
Originally posted by: quest55720
http://www.politico.com/blogs/...o_talk_gas_prices.html

Looks like the GoP will be back on monday to coninue what they started on friday. I am so damn happy about this. Hopefully this will get a ton of press and piss people off enough to force Pelosi to a special session to vote on a real energy bill that includes lifting the drilling bans. It is good to finally see the GoP get its balls back and attack those who want to screw over the working class with high gas prices.

The hypocrisy of the GOP is off the charts. For YEARS they fought hard against raising CAFE standards, energy conservation measures, etc and NOW they want to do something? It's just ridiculous grandstanding because they know how f*cked they are thanks to the politics and policies during the Bush administration.
The saddest part is, apparently a lot of people are stupid enough to fall for it. :(
 

quest55720

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Originally posted by: Brainonska511
Originally posted by: quest55720
http://www.politico.com/blogs/...o_talk_gas_prices.html

Looks like the GoP will be back on monday to coninue what they started on friday. I am so damn happy about this. Hopefully this will get a ton of press and piss people off enough to force Pelosi to a special session to vote on a real energy bill that includes lifting the drilling bans. It is good to finally see the GoP get its balls back and attack those who want to screw over the working class with high gas prices.

The hypocrisy of the GOP is off the charts. For YEARS they fought hard against raising CAFE standards, energy conservation measures, etc and NOW they want to do something? It's just ridiculous grandstanding because they know how f*cked they are thanks to the politics and policies during the Bush administration.

How about the hypocrisy of the democrats? They claim to be the party of the working class and poor. Who is getting killed this summer and soon winter over high oil prices? The rich or the working class/poor? So what do the democrats do go on f'n vacation when I and many others can't afford to thanks to high gas prices. Both sides suck but the GoP is 100% correct on this one. There is a great bipartisen energy bill out there that should be passed but pelosi/obama won't let it happen. A great energy bill that allows drilling but uses those proceeds to fund alternative research/insentives. A bill that raises cafe standards all in all a great bill. A bill that 10 years ago before the 2000 election the democrats would of jumped at in a heartbeat. Now they are so damn bitter over the 2000 election they refuse to work with the GoP when the poor/working class need them the most.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: Brainonska511
Originally posted by: quest55720
http://www.politico.com/blogs/...o_talk_gas_prices.html

Looks like the GoP will be back on monday to coninue what they started on friday. I am so damn happy about this. Hopefully this will get a ton of press and piss people off enough to force Pelosi to a special session to vote on a real energy bill that includes lifting the drilling bans. It is good to finally see the GoP get its balls back and attack those who want to screw over the working class with high gas prices.

The hypocrisy of the GOP is off the charts. For YEARS they fought hard against raising CAFE standards, energy conservation measures, etc and NOW they want to do something? It's just ridiculous grandstanding because they know how f*cked they are thanks to the politics and policies during the Bush administration.

Not to mention that they kept this 'ban' in place in order keep oil prices propped up when they were low.

This is a classic Marxist dialectic they are playing -- Problem, reaction, solution.

Yaknow, there is a word for right-wing populism: fascism.
 

frostedflakes

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Originally posted by: quest55720
Originally posted by: Brainonska511
Originally posted by: quest55720
http://www.politico.com/blogs/...o_talk_gas_prices.html

Looks like the GoP will be back on monday to coninue what they started on friday. I am so damn happy about this. Hopefully this will get a ton of press and piss people off enough to force Pelosi to a special session to vote on a real energy bill that includes lifting the drilling bans. It is good to finally see the GoP get its balls back and attack those who want to screw over the working class with high gas prices.

The hypocrisy of the GOP is off the charts. For YEARS they fought hard against raising CAFE standards, energy conservation measures, etc and NOW they want to do something? It's just ridiculous grandstanding because they know how f*cked they are thanks to the politics and policies during the Bush administration.

How about the hypocrisy of the democrats? They claim to be the party of the working class and poor. Who is getting killed this summer and soon winter over high oil prices? The rich or the working class/poor? So what do the democrats do go on f'n vacation when I and many others can't afford to thanks to high gas prices. Both sides suck but the GoP is 100% correct on this one. There is a great bipartisen energy bill out there that should be passed but pelosi/obama won't let it happen. A great energy bill that allows drilling but uses those proceeds to fund alternative research/insentives. A bill that raises cafe standards all in all a great bill. A bill that 10 years ago before the 2000 election the democrats would of jumped at in a heartbeat. Now they are so damn bitter over the 2000 election they refuse to work with the GoP when the poor/working class need them the most.
Windfall profits taxes and other methods of wealth distribution would used to help those hit hardest by fuel prices. I'm not saying I think it's a good idea (and this is coming from a liberal, by the way), but to claim the Democrats don't care about the poor is laughable. Redistributing windfall profits would help American families much sooner than drilling for more oil.
 

quest55720

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Originally posted by: frostedflakes
Originally posted by: quest55720
Originally posted by: Brainonska511
Originally posted by: quest55720
http://www.politico.com/blogs/...o_talk_gas_prices.html

Looks like the GoP will be back on monday to coninue what they started on friday. I am so damn happy about this. Hopefully this will get a ton of press and piss people off enough to force Pelosi to a special session to vote on a real energy bill that includes lifting the drilling bans. It is good to finally see the GoP get its balls back and attack those who want to screw over the working class with high gas prices.

The hypocrisy of the GOP is off the charts. For YEARS they fought hard against raising CAFE standards, energy conservation measures, etc and NOW they want to do something? It's just ridiculous grandstanding because they know how f*cked they are thanks to the politics and policies during the Bush administration.

How about the hypocrisy of the democrats? They claim to be the party of the working class and poor. Who is getting killed this summer and soon winter over high oil prices? The rich or the working class/poor? So what do the democrats do go on f'n vacation when I and many others can't afford to thanks to high gas prices. Both sides suck but the GoP is 100% correct on this one. There is a great bipartisen energy bill out there that should be passed but pelosi/obama won't let it happen. A great energy bill that allows drilling but uses those proceeds to fund alternative research/insentives. A bill that raises cafe standards all in all a great bill. A bill that 10 years ago before the 2000 election the democrats would of jumped at in a heartbeat. Now they are so damn bitter over the 2000 election they refuse to work with the GoP when the poor/working class need them the most.
Windfall profits taxes and other methods of wealth distribution would used to help those hit hardest by fuel prices. I'm not saying I think it's a good idea (and this is coming from a liberal, by the way), but to claim the Democrats don't care about the poor is laughable. Redistributing windfall profits would help American families much sooner than drilling for more oil.

No it would hurt them the most because prices of fuel will go up. Sure if you don't drive at all that 1000 dollars might be nice. If you commute to work like lots of working class people do it will be a killer. Or those who heat with oil will be destroyed. That 1000 dollars might be nice but when gas is 6.00 a gallon tell me how that helps those working class people. If you really think the consumer won't pay that 1000 dollars I have a bridge to sell you real cheap.
 

winnar111

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Originally posted by: Brainonska511
Originally posted by: quest55720
http://www.politico.com/blogs/...o_talk_gas_prices.html

Looks like the GoP will be back on monday to coninue what they started on friday. I am so damn happy about this. Hopefully this will get a ton of press and piss people off enough to force Pelosi to a special session to vote on a real energy bill that includes lifting the drilling bans. It is good to finally see the GoP get its balls back and attack those who want to screw over the working class with high gas prices.

The hypocrisy of the GOP is off the charts. For YEARS they fought hard against raising CAFE standards, energy conservation measures, etc and NOW they want to do something? It's just ridiculous grandstanding because they know how f*cked they are thanks to the politics and policies during the Bush administration.

Why should we raise CAFE standards and conserve energy when Democratic politicians and other nations don't, and the people as a whole aren't interested in it?
 

winnar111

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Originally posted by: Lemon law
Originally posted by: loki8481
are you dumb or just blinded by partisanship?

you may not agree with his policies, but uneventful? when McCain loses, I'm sure he'll be crying all the way back to being the most influential republican senator.
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Actually Loki8481, being the most influential republican Senator would be quite a promotion for McCain and I very much doubt it will happen.

McCain has never lead anything in his entire life, in the Senate he has recently been that guy from Arizona everyone had to humor, let him have his paper victory, and then gut it in committee. The GOP has and still belongs to GWB.

And if we regard this little bit of GOP gang of 10 grandstanding as the most energetic and charged up the Senile Elephant has been in recent months, we may all note McCain was no where in sight. Face the facts, if McCain loses the general election, he will retain his Senate seat, but is unlikely to lead anything in the GOP. The GOP may be stuck with McCain, but they seem to be working very hard to deny that fact. The only thing that fires up the GOP is their opposition to democrats and they seem to be hiding McCain in the attic.

Leadership out of McCain??????????????? What a complete laugh.

Obamarama did a great job leading, errrr, all those dozens of bills he passed in the last 4 years!

McCain has led with Campaign Finance reform and the success of the surge.
 
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Originally posted by: winnar111
Originally posted by: Brainonska511
Originally posted by: quest55720
http://www.politico.com/blogs/...o_talk_gas_prices.html

Looks like the GoP will be back on monday to coninue what they started on friday. I am so damn happy about this. Hopefully this will get a ton of press and piss people off enough to force Pelosi to a special session to vote on a real energy bill that includes lifting the drilling bans. It is good to finally see the GoP get its balls back and attack those who want to screw over the working class with high gas prices.

The hypocrisy of the GOP is off the charts. For YEARS they fought hard against raising CAFE standards, energy conservation measures, etc and NOW they want to do something? It's just ridiculous grandstanding because they know how f*cked they are thanks to the politics and policies during the Bush administration.

Why should we raise CAFE standards and conserve energy when Democratic politicians and other nations don't, and the people as a whole aren't interested in it?

It's called thinking ahead for when times are tighter and preventing such large problems when gas/energy prices spike over a short time.

Additionally, the first part of your statement shows a fundamental misunderstanding of how bills become laws. You can't just rely on one party - it has to be a bipartisan effort because of the nature of the issue.

Last note: Other nations do have higher MPG standards. Are you referring to China and India that are clearly NOT first world nations? You want to see nations with higher fuel standards, take a look at European countries.
 
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Originally posted by: winnar111
Originally posted by: Lemon law
Originally posted by: loki8481
are you dumb or just blinded by partisanship?

you may not agree with his policies, but uneventful? when McCain loses, I'm sure he'll be crying all the way back to being the most influential republican senator.

Actually Loki8481, being the most influential republican Senator would be quite a promotion for McCain and I very much doubt it will happen.

McCain has never lead anything in his entire life, in the Senate he has recently been that guy from Arizona everyone had to humor, let him have his paper victory, and then gut it in committee. The GOP has and still belongs to GWB.

And if we regard this little bit of GOP gang of 10 grandstanding as the most energetic and charged up the Senile Elephant has been in recent months, we may all note McCain was no where in sight. Face the facts, if McCain loses the general election, he will retain his Senate seat, but is unlikely to lead anything in the GOP. The GOP may be stuck with McCain, but they seem to be working very hard to deny that fact. The only thing that fires up the GOP is their opposition to democrats and they seem to be hiding McCain in the attic.

Leadership out of McCain??????????????? What a complete laugh.

Obamarama did a great job leading, errrr, all those dozens of bills he passed in the last 4 years!

McCain has led with Campaign Finance reform and the success of the surge.

Obama is a junior senator. McCain is a much more senior senator. Based on how the senate works, you have significantly more power the longer you serve. I'd say, do the math, but I don't think you'll get it. What I'm saying is that it is easier for McCain to push legislation through because he's spent more time in the Senate.

And that great "Campaign Finance Reform" was fairly toothless - and any teeth that it did have after passage were pretty much struck down when it hit the SC.
 

winnar111

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Originally posted by: Brainonska511
Originally posted by: winnar111
Originally posted by: Lemon law
Originally posted by: loki8481
are you dumb or just blinded by partisanship?

you may not agree with his policies, but uneventful? when McCain loses, I'm sure he'll be crying all the way back to being the most influential republican senator.

Actually Loki8481, being the most influential republican Senator would be quite a promotion for McCain and I very much doubt it will happen.

McCain has never lead anything in his entire life, in the Senate he has recently been that guy from Arizona everyone had to humor, let him have his paper victory, and then gut it in committee. The GOP has and still belongs to GWB.

And if we regard this little bit of GOP gang of 10 grandstanding as the most energetic and charged up the Senile Elephant has been in recent months, we may all note McCain was no where in sight. Face the facts, if McCain loses the general election, he will retain his Senate seat, but is unlikely to lead anything in the GOP. The GOP may be stuck with McCain, but they seem to be working very hard to deny that fact. The only thing that fires up the GOP is their opposition to democrats and they seem to be hiding McCain in the attic.

Leadership out of McCain??????????????? What a complete laugh.

Obamarama did a great job leading, errrr, all those dozens of bills he passed in the last 4 years!

McCain has led with Campaign Finance reform and the success of the surge.

Obama is a junior senator. McCain is a much more senior senator. Based on how the senate works, you have significantly more power the longer you serve. I'd say, do the math, but I don't think you'll get it. What I'm saying is that it is easier for McCain to push legislation through because he's spent more time in the Senate.

And that great "Campaign Finance Reform" was fairly toothless - and any teeth that it did have after passage were pretty much struck down when it hit the SC.

So now the Obamabots are making excuses for his lack of leadership?
 
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Originally posted by: winnar111
Originally posted by: Brainonska511
Originally posted by: winnar111
Originally posted by: Lemon law
Originally posted by: loki8481
are you dumb or just blinded by partisanship?

you may not agree with his policies, but uneventful? when McCain loses, I'm sure he'll be crying all the way back to being the most influential republican senator.

Actually Loki8481, being the most influential republican Senator would be quite a promotion for McCain and I very much doubt it will happen.

McCain has never lead anything in his entire life, in the Senate he has recently been that guy from Arizona everyone had to humor, let him have his paper victory, and then gut it in committee. The GOP has and still belongs to GWB.

And if we regard this little bit of GOP gang of 10 grandstanding as the most energetic and charged up the Senile Elephant has been in recent months, we may all note McCain was no where in sight. Face the facts, if McCain loses the general election, he will retain his Senate seat, but is unlikely to lead anything in the GOP. The GOP may be stuck with McCain, but they seem to be working very hard to deny that fact. The only thing that fires up the GOP is their opposition to democrats and they seem to be hiding McCain in the attic.

Leadership out of McCain??????????????? What a complete laugh.

Obamarama did a great job leading, errrr, all those dozens of bills he passed in the last 4 years!

McCain has led with Campaign Finance reform and the success of the surge.

Obama is a junior senator. McCain is a much more senior senator. Based on how the senate works, you have significantly more power the longer you serve. I'd say, do the math, but I don't think you'll get it. What I'm saying is that it is easier for McCain to push legislation through because he's spent more time in the Senate.

And that great "Campaign Finance Reform" was fairly toothless - and any teeth that it did have after passage were pretty much struck down when it hit the SC.

So now the Obamabots are making excuses for his lack of leadership?

So now I'm an Obamabot? :roll:

Try being less of a partisan hack and open your freakin' eyes. You obviously have NO IDEA how the Senate works.
 

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I didn't read the entire thread but heres my take.

I dont like one party over the other.

Lately Bush blames Congress for their lack of action on an energy policy, yet for the first half or so of his Presidency he had republican control of the senate and house yet didn't do anything significant when it comes to an energy policy as far as I know.....yes prices were lower then but they were climbing pretty steadily.

Next, I seen an interview of Pelosi that said she would refuse bringing a drilling bill to vote in the House.....are you MAD woman? What good is a democracy if the leader refuses to allow a vote?

Some interesting observations from someone on the outside.
 

lupi

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Originally posted by: Brainonska511
Originally posted by: quest55720
http://www.politico.com/blogs/...o_talk_gas_prices.html

Looks like the GoP will be back on monday to coninue what they started on friday. I am so damn happy about this. Hopefully this will get a ton of press and piss people off enough to force Pelosi to a special session to vote on a real energy bill that includes lifting the drilling bans. It is good to finally see the GoP get its balls back and attack those who want to screw over the working class with high gas prices.

The hypocrisy of the GOP is off the charts. For YEARS they fought hard against raising CAFE standards, energy conservation measures, etc and NOW they want to do something? It's just ridiculous grandstanding because they know how f*cked they are thanks to the politics and policies during the Bush administration.



Yeah! At least that Hussein guy doesn't do any of that, he's what we can hope for!
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: geoffry
I didn't read the entire thread but heres my take.

I dont like one party over the other.

Lately Bush blames Congress for their lack of action on an energy policy, yet for the first half or so of his Presidency he had republican control of the senate and house yet didn't do anything significant when it comes to an energy policy as far as I know.....yes prices were lower then but they were climbing pretty steadily.

Next, I seen an interview of Pelosi that said she would refuse bringing a drilling bill to vote in the House.....are you MAD woman? What good is a democracy if the leader refuses to allow a vote?

Some interesting observations from someone on the outside.

Good post. :thumbsup:
 

winnar111

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Originally posted by: Brainonska511
Originally posted by: winnar111
Originally posted by: Brainonska511
Originally posted by: winnar111
Originally posted by: Lemon law
Originally posted by: loki8481
are you dumb or just blinded by partisanship?

you may not agree with his policies, but uneventful? when McCain loses, I'm sure he'll be crying all the way back to being the most influential republican senator.

Actually Loki8481, being the most influential republican Senator would be quite a promotion for McCain and I very much doubt it will happen.

McCain has never lead anything in his entire life, in the Senate he has recently been that guy from Arizona everyone had to humor, let him have his paper victory, and then gut it in committee. The GOP has and still belongs to GWB.

And if we regard this little bit of GOP gang of 10 grandstanding as the most energetic and charged up the Senile Elephant has been in recent months, we may all note McCain was no where in sight. Face the facts, if McCain loses the general election, he will retain his Senate seat, but is unlikely to lead anything in the GOP. The GOP may be stuck with McCain, but they seem to be working very hard to deny that fact. The only thing that fires up the GOP is their opposition to democrats and they seem to be hiding McCain in the attic.

Leadership out of McCain??????????????? What a complete laugh.

Obamarama did a great job leading, errrr, all those dozens of bills he passed in the last 4 years!

McCain has led with Campaign Finance reform and the success of the surge.

Obama is a junior senator. McCain is a much more senior senator. Based on how the senate works, you have significantly more power the longer you serve. I'd say, do the math, but I don't think you'll get it. What I'm saying is that it is easier for McCain to push legislation through because he's spent more time in the Senate.

And that great "Campaign Finance Reform" was fairly toothless - and any teeth that it did have after passage were pretty much struck down when it hit the SC.

So now the Obamabots are making excuses for his lack of leadership?

So now I'm an Obamabot? :roll:

Try being less of a partisan hack and open your freakin' eyes. You obviously have NO IDEA how the Senate works.

I made no comment about how the Senate worked. I only said that McCain has shown more leadership in his life than Obama has in his life, as the previous Obamabot clains McCain has never shown leadership. You seem to take offense to that and make excuses for Mr. Junior Senator.

The odd thing is that McCain's CFR garbage will be in effect if Obama packs the Supreme Court with nutcase leftwing judges out of the mainsteam as he plans to.
 

idiotekniQues

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Originally posted by: idiotekniQues
Originally posted by: Queasy


The land they currently are leasing:
1) Doesn't have oil
2) Doesn't have enough oil to be cost effective

got any7 proof of this?

still waiting.

ive asked for evidence of the above right wing claim on another forum as well from all the pro-drilling people and not a peep out of any of them.

 

jpeyton

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Don't forget that the extra 200,000 barrels per day from new offshore sites wouldn't hit the market for two decades; the first drop won't even hit the market until 2017.

Even then, 200,000 barrels per day wouldn't impact market prices in any significant way, according to our government's own research.

The GOP had 7 years to shore up energy policy, and they're making a ruckus over a 5 week vacation? :laugh:
 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: jpeyton
Don't forget that the extra 200,000 barrels per day from new offshore sites wouldn't hit the market for two decades; the first drop won't even hit the market until 2017.

Even then, 200,000 barrels per day wouldn't impact market prices in any significant way, according to our government's own research.



uh, that's not exactly true from what I've read. Do you have a source for your claims?
 

nageov3t

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Originally posted by: jpeyton
Don't forget that the extra 200,000 barrels per day from new offshore sites wouldn't hit the market for two decades; the first drop won't even hit the market until 2017.

Even then, 200,000 barrels per day wouldn't impact market prices in any significant way, according to our government's own research.

The GOP had 7 years to shore up energy policy, and they're making a ruckus over a 5 week vacation? :laugh:

they were two busy enacting policies to run up oil prices in the first place?
 

Fern

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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: quest55720
http://www.politico.com/blogs/...o_talk_gas_prices.html

Looks like the GoP will be back on monday to coninue what they started on friday. I am so damn happy about this. Hopefully this will get a ton of press and piss people off enough to force Pelosi to a special session to vote on a real energy bill that includes lifting the drilling bans. It is good to finally see the GoP get its balls back and attack those who want to screw over the working class with high gas prices.

You mean by handing out concessions for the oil companies to explore for oil on public lands FOR FREE?
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Where do you get this *Free* stuff?

Seriously, what I read says they are auctioned off. They pay big money in the auctions and then pay a lease fee after that. Then if there's oil, they pay royalties.

Fern
 

Fern

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Originally posted by: Brainonska511
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The hypocrisy of the GOP is off the charts. For YEARS they fought hard against raising CAFE standards, energy conservation measures, etc and NOW they want to do something? It's just ridiculous grandstanding because they know how f*cked they are thanks to the politics and policies during the Bush administration.

Reality 101. Americans didn't want little vehicles with good gas mileage, they wanted big vehicles with crappy gas mileage.

I don't know where you live, but we got a ton of SUVs (and big trucks) around here. Seesm to me that many of the best selling vehicles were gas hogs.

The blame for that goes to the American people, not to any party.

And most people in this country don't want the government to tell them what they can, or cannot drive. That's just not how it works in this country.

Fern