Gang Attacks Mother on French Train

[alchemize]

Link

 

[Riprorin]

France has a long history of anti-Semitism and it's not just North Africans who ae committing crimes against Jews.

 

[Moonbeam]

It happens here in America if they think she has a nickel.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
It happens here in America if they think she has a nickel.

It happens here and when asked why by the police, the response is "I dunno". No reason at all, even to the attackers.

Maybe it's in the nature of people, and not their nationality.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Riprorin
France has a long history of anti-Semitism and it's not just North Africans who ae committing crimes against Jews.

When the Germans marched into Paris the Parisians were tripping all over each other seeing who could turn in the most Jews to their Occupiers.

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Riprorin
France has a long history of anti-Semitism and it's not just North Africans who ae committing crimes against Jews.

When the Germans marched into Paris the Parisians were tripping all over each other seeing who could turn in the most Jews to their Occupiers.

Watch how fast the conservatives turn in the pinko liberals when the time is nigh.

 

[MonstaThrilla]

Who cares? This is the most pointless thread in ATP&N history, and that's saying alot.

 

[DealMonkey]

Yeah, perhaps Galt and Alchemize are collaborating? Galt covers the French-hating threads midweek on "office time" (Still screw'n the taxpayers, eh Galt?) and good ol' Mohammed Al-surmise covers the weekend in between changing diapers.

 

[Strk]

Originally posted by: Riprorin
The world has a long history of anti-Semitism and it's not just North Africans who ae committing crimes against Jews.

fixed.

 

[alchemize]

Originally posted by: MonstaThrilla
Who cares? This is the most pointless thread in ATP&N history, and that's saying alot.

I would say that was one of the shallowest responses to a post in ATP&N history, and that's saying a lot.

 

[MonstaThrilla]

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: MonstaThrilla
Who cares? This is the most pointless thread in ATP&N history, and that's saying alot.

I would say that was one of the shallowest responses to a post in ATP&N history, and that's saying a lot.

Ouch!

No really, what was your point? That there's an anti-Semitic gang in Paris? Wow. That really says SO MUCH.

 

[alchemize]

I didn't have any point, other than that maybe France isn't the peaceful happy tolerant nation that many think socialism brings.

Of course, what if this was the news article?

Posted by <insert heavily posting liberal poster here>

Gang Attacks Man on Texas Train


Sunday July 11, 2004 2:46 PM

By ELAINE GANLEY

Associated Press Writer

Houston (AP) - A gang of young men attacked a man riding a suburban train with his companion, cutting his hair and drawing swastikas on his stomach. Other passengers watched but did nothing, police reported.

Texan politicians issued denunciations Sunday as news of the Friday morning attack spread through the nation.

Police said the gang of six set upon the 23-year-old man on a suburban train north of Houston and grabbed his backpack where they found identity papers that showed an address in Houston's well-to-do Galleria district. ``There are only Homos in the Galleria,'' one of the group of attackers said.

The young man, who was not identified, was not a homosexual and no longer lived in the district, police said.

The gang then pushed him and cut his hair ``to keep a souvenir,'' police said. The attackers opened his shirt, reportedly with a knife, before drawing swastikas on her stomach with a marking pen. The companion fell from his seat in the melee. Neither the man nor his companion was seriously hurt, police said.

Police described the gang as ages 15 to 20 and said some appeared to be of anglo-saxon origin.

The attack occurred a day after President Bush denounced mounting racial intolerance in Texas, calling for drastic change ``at the risk of indifference and passivity.''

According to the police account, none of the passengers on the train came to the man's rescue.

Bush denounced Friday's ``shameful act'' and Interior Minister Ashcfoft ordered police to find the culprits ``as quickly as possible.''

etc.

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: alchemize
I didn't have any point, other than that maybe France isn't the peaceful happy tolerant nation that many think socialism brings.

And neither is the U.S., so I guess capitalism doesn't work either. Please, how many jew-hating skinheads exist in the U.S.? One limited example and/or a small minority of idiots != the entire nation. Just more french-hating hypocrisy I see...

etc., etc.

 

[alchemize]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: alchemize
I didn't have any point, other than that maybe France isn't the peaceful happy tolerant nation that many think socialism brings.

And neither is the U.S., so I guess capitalism doesn't work either. Please, how many jew-hating skinheads exist in the U.S.? One limited example and/or a small minority of idiots != the entire nation. Just more french-hating hypocrisy I see...

etc., etc.

One limited example?

Anti-Semitic acts have been on the rise in France over the past few years, but recently have spiked, with 135 registered in the first half of this year - more than the total reports last year. The rise in anti-Semitic acts has been accompanied by racist acts against Muslims.

 

[DealMonkey]

And what was your point again?

FBI Hate Crime Report 2002

HATE CRIME STATISTICS, 2002
Section I?Hate Crime Statistics

Incidents and Offenses

A total of 12,073 law enforcement agencies reported 7,462 hate crime incidents in 2002. The majority of these, 7,459, were single-bias incidents; that is, all the offenses within each incident resulted from one type of bias. The 3 remaining incidents were classified as multiple-bias, meaning that those incidents involved 2 or more offense types motivated by 2 or more biases. (See Table 1.)

Racial bias accounted for 48.8 percent of the single-bias incidents. Religious bias motivated 19.1 percent of incidents, sexual-orientation bias provoked 16.7 percent, and bias against an ethnicity or national origin caused 14.8 percent. Bias against a physical or mental disability was the basis for 0.6 percent of the single-bias incidents. (Based on Table 1.)

Within the 7,462 hate crime incidents reported during 2002, law enforcement identified 7,459 single-bias incidents involving 8,825 offenses. Within the 3 multiple-bias incidents, they identified 7 offenses. (See Table 1.) The UCR hate crime program assigns all bias-motivated offenses to one of three categories: crimes against persons, crimes against property, and crimes against society. (See Methodology.) For 2002, crimes against persons made up 67.5 percent of the identified offenses, and crimes against property accounted for 32.0 percent. The remainder (0.6 percent) were crimes against society. (Based on Table 2.)

By offense type, intimidation was the most often reported offense, accounting for 35.2 percent of the total bias-motivated offenses. Destruction/damage/vandalism accounted for 26.6 percent of the total reported offenses; simple assault, 20.3 percent; and aggravated assault, 11.7 percent. The remaining offenses collectively made up 6.3 percent of the total. (Based on Table 2.)

Intimidation was also the most frequently reported of the crimes against persons, accounting for 52.1 percent of that total. Of reported crimes against property, 83.1 percent of the offenses involved destruction/damage/vandalism. (Based on Table 2.)

Nearly half (49.8 percent) of the 8,825 single-bias offenses reported for 2002 were racially motivated. Religious bias was the instigation for 17.9 percent of the offenses, sexual-orientation bias was the motivation for 16.6 percent, and ethnicity/national origin bias was the cause of 15.2 percent. Bias against a physical or mental disability was the source of less than 1 percent of the offenses within single-bias incidents?0.5 percent. (Based on Table 1.)

A review of the 4,393 offenses motivated by racial bias showed that 67.5 percent resulted from an anti-black bias, 20.2 percent resulted from an anti-white bias, and 6.1 percent resulted from bias against Asians or Pacific Islanders. The data further revealed that 4.6 percent of the offenses were committed against groups comprised of varying races (anti-multiple races, group); 1.5 percent targeted American Indians or Alaskan Natives. (Based on Table 1.)

Anti-Jewish bias accounted for 65.9 percent of the 1,576 reported offenses rooted in religious bias. Anti-Islamic bias made up 10.8 percent of these types of offenses, and bias against other, unspecified religious groups (anti-other religion) made up 13.8 percent. Of the remainder, 3.7 percent of the offenses were anti-Catholic, 3.6 percent were anti-Protestant, 2.0 percent were against groups made up of multiple religions (anti-multiple religions, group), and 0.2 percent were anti-atheism or anti-agnosticism. (Based on Table 1.)

 

[alchemize]

And what was your point again?

My point was : France isn't the peaceful happy tolerant nation that many think socialism brings. Why do you want me to repeat it? Your post certainly doesn't refute that. I'm not the one advocating Socialism.

What is your point?

0.2 percent were anti-atheism or anti-agnosticism. (Based on Table 1.)

Jeez did you really file a complaint?

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: alchemize

And what was your point again?

My point was : France isn't the peaceful happy tolerant nation that many think socialism brings. Why do you want me to repeat it? Your post certainly doesn't refute that. I'm not the one advocating Socialism.

Who the hell said socialism = happy/peaceful? I'm not advocating socialism either, so who are you speaking of? Sounds like you're working the straw again...

Besides, my statistics for 2002 Hate crimes in the U.S. clearly shows we have a problem with anti-semitism as well, and hate crimes in general. Why don't we clean up our own house before leveling charges against other nations?

Your transparent attempt to bash the French is weak and is akin to complaining about China's human rights violations post-Abu Ghraib.

 

[Zephyr106]

Wahh wahhh so French anti-semites don't start loving Jews when France becomes socialist, and Russian anti-semites don't start loving Jews when Russia goes from Czarism to Communism to Capitalism. WTF is your point except to troll and pick on socialism?

Zephyr

 

[alchemize]

Originally posted by: Zephyr106
Wahh wahhh so French anti-semites don't start loving Jews when France becomes socialist, and Russian anti-semites don't start loving Jews when Russia goes from Czarism to Communism to Capitalism. WTF is your point except to troll and pick on socialism?

Zephyr

What is your point except to troll and pick on conservatisim? I've never seen a useful post from you in the 4+ years I've been on here.

 

[Gaard]

C'mon Alchy..."peaceful happy tolerant nation that many think socialism brings"...you taking up playing with strawmen now too?

 

[alchemize]

Nothing like France to get all your collective liberal panties in a wad

 

[Gaard]

Originally posted by: alchemize
Nothing like France to get all your collective liberal panties in a wad

Ok, ya got me. This was just a stir the pot thread, right?

 

[happyhelper]

Can the OP explain how France is a "socialist" country and how it differs from the USA? Depending how you look at it, both are capitalist, or both are socialist, but to claim that France is not capaitalist but socialist, and that USA is somehow different, is worthy of an explanation, IMO.

 

[alchemize]

Originally posted by: Gaard

Originally posted by: alchemize
Nothing like France to get all your collective liberal panties in a wad

Ok, ya got me. This was just a stir the pot thread, right?

Actually it was nothing of the sort. Just a news article I posted. I'll grant you the sub-topic may have been a touch inflammatory, but hey I don't see you, DealMonkey, Zephyr, or MonstaThrilla taking offense to any of the ones that are inflammatory to us true americans

 

[Kipper]

Originally posted by: Riprorin
France has a long history of anti-Semitism and it's not just North Africans who ae committing crimes against Jews.

EUROPE has a long history of anti-Semitism. Hell, the WORLD has a long history of anti-Semitism and anti-this or anti-that.