You're trying to buy a "gaming" PC on a console budget. Save up some more money if you want to play with the big boys.Originally posted by: Gusty987
$500 to play video games with a POS controller, no upgradeablity, and crappy TV resolution?
No thanks.
Originally posted by: Gusty987
I want to get a new PC for gaming, including BF2, Oblivion, Flight Sim and others. For about $800 whats the best I could put together?
Originally posted by: JackBurton
You're trying to buy a "gaming" PC on a console budget. Save up some more money if you want to play with the big boys.Originally posted by: Gusty987
$500 to play video games with a POS controller, no upgradeablity, and crappy TV resolution?
No thanks.
Some of those parts are pretty cheesy. SIS motherboard with integrated sound? I'll pass on that one. I also wouldn't get anything under a 3500+ processor. Also, BF2 and Oblivion run better with 2GB of ram. And where is the OS? Is he going to run Linux.Originally posted by: bamacre
Originally posted by: JackBurton
You're trying to buy a "gaming" PC on a console budget. Save up some more money if you want to play with the big boys.Originally posted by: Gusty987
$500 to play video games with a POS controller, no upgradeablity, and crappy TV resolution?
No thanks.
Utter nonsense.
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Originally posted by: JackBurton
Some of those parts are pretty cheesy. SIS motherboard with integrated sound? I'll pass on that one. I also wouldn't get anything under a 3500+ processor. Also, BF2 and Oblivion run better with 2GB of ram. And where is the OS? Is he going to run Linux.Originally posted by: bamacre
Originally posted by: JackBurton
You're trying to buy a "gaming" PC on a console budget. Save up some more money if you want to play with the big boys.Originally posted by: Gusty987
$500 to play video games with a POS controller, no upgradeablity, and crappy TV resolution?
No thanks.
Utter nonsense.
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You're basically comparing a LOW end PC to a high end console. The only thing high end on that config is the video card and DVD burner, which makes for an unbalanced machine. I think you'll have a better experience play Oblivion on the 360.
Originally posted by: bamacre
Originally posted by: JackBurton
Some of those parts are pretty cheesy. SIS motherboard with integrated sound? I'll pass on that one. I also wouldn't get anything under a 3500+ processor. Also, BF2 and Oblivion run better with 2GB of ram. And where is the OS? Is he going to run Linux.Originally posted by: bamacre
Originally posted by: JackBurton
You're trying to buy a "gaming" PC on a console budget. Save up some more money if you want to play with the big boys.Originally posted by: Gusty987
$500 to play video games with a POS controller, no upgradeablity, and crappy TV resolution?
No thanks.
Utter nonsense.
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You're basically comparing a LOW end PC to a high end console. The only thing high end on that config is the video card and DVD burner, which makes for an unbalanced machine. I think you'll have a better experience play Oblivion on the 360.
That is your opinion.
Yes, some games play better with 2GB of ram. But this system is upgradeable, unlike a console. The OP doesn't want a console, he wants a PC he can play games on. This is what he wants. The cpu is fine, faster than my Pentium 630, and I run a 7800 GTX along with 2GB of ram. And I don't think the system above is unbalanced, I think it's a perfect system considering his budget.
Originally posted by: JackBurton
You're trying to buy a "gaming" PC on a console budget. Save up some more money if you want to play with the big boys.Originally posted by: Gusty987
$500 to play video games with a POS controller, no upgradeablity, and crappy TV resolution?
No thanks.
Originally posted by: bamacre
Originally posted by: JackBurton
You're trying to buy a "gaming" PC on a console budget. Save up some more money if you want to play with the big boys.Originally posted by: Gusty987
$500 to play video games with a POS controller, no upgradeablity, and crappy TV resolution?
No thanks.
Utter nonsense.
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Originally posted by: bamacre
Yeah, I forgot about the 3000+. And there is room in his budget for a better mobo and bigger HD. Revised...
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Couldn't add the other GB of ram without sacrificing too much. But that's always something he can add later, and not something that is definitely needed now.
Yep. I like how the OP talks trash about consoles (which he doesn't even have his facts straight) and then has this budget which barely makes the grade to play the games he wants to play. Oblivion is a b!tch to run on a PC. Good luck when you get outdoors running the machine at 1024x768 with HDR turned on.Originally posted by: bamacre
Originally posted by: JackBurton
Some of those parts are pretty cheesy. SIS motherboard with integrated sound? I'll pass on that one. I also wouldn't get anything under a 3500+ processor. Also, BF2 and Oblivion run better with 2GB of ram. And where is the OS? Is he going to run Linux.
You're basically comparing a LOW end PC to a high end console. The only thing high end on that config is the video card and DVD burner, which makes for an unbalanced machine. I think you'll have a better experience play Oblivion on the 360.
That is your opinion.
Yes, some games play better with 2GB of ram. But this system is upgradeable, unlike a console. The OP doesn't want a console, he wants a PC he can play games on. This is what he wants. The cpu is fine, faster than my Pentium 630, and I run a 7800 GTX along with 2GB of ram. And I don't think the system above is unbalanced, I think it's a perfect system considering his budget.
Just a reminder, you need to add in the cost of Windows. For some reason people keep forgetting to add that cost in, hmmm....
Originally posted by: JackBurton
Yep. I like how the OP talks trash about consoles (which he doesn't even have his facts straight) and then has this budget which barely makes the grade to play the games he wants to play. Oblivion is a b!tch to run on a PC. Good luck when you get outdoors running the machine at 1024x768 with HDR turned on.Originally posted by: bamacre
Originally posted by: JackBurton
Some of those parts are pretty cheesy. SIS motherboard with integrated sound? I'll pass on that one. I also wouldn't get anything under a 3500+ processor. Also, BF2 and Oblivion run better with 2GB of ram. And where is the OS? Is he going to run Linux.
You're basically comparing a LOW end PC to a high end console. The only thing high end on that config is the video card and DVD burner, which makes for an unbalanced machine. I think you'll have a better experience play Oblivion on the 360.
That is your opinion.
Yes, some games play better with 2GB of ram. But this system is upgradeable, unlike a console. The OP doesn't want a console, he wants a PC he can play games on. This is what he wants. The cpu is fine, faster than my Pentium 630, and I run a 7800 GTX along with 2GB of ram. And I don't think the system above is unbalanced, I think it's a perfect system considering his budget.
Some of those parts are pretty cheesy. SIS motherboard with integrated sound? I'll pass on that one. I also wouldn't get anything under a 3500+ processor. Also, BF2 and Oblivion run better with 2GB of ram. And where is the OS? Is he going to run Linux.Originally posted by: JackBurton
Originally posted by: bamacre
Originally posted by: JackBurton
You're trying to buy a "gaming" PC on a console budget. Save up some more money if you want to play with the big boys.Originally posted by: Gusty987
$500 to play video games with a POS controller, no upgradeablity, and crappy TV resolution?
No thanks.
Utter nonsense.
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Originally posted by: Gusty987
Thanks for all the replies. Thanks alot for the list, bamacre, very good suggestions there. As for the concern about running Oblivion, its fine if my PC won't run it, my brother has a 360 so if I have to I can get it on there. In fact the main games I'm playing right now are Battlefield 2 and Flight Sim 2004 which run fine on my old PC. I'm also gonna need to get a monitor for this, so I'm thinking a 19" CRT from Samsung or Viewsonic for around $200 (in addition to the 800 for the computer), or are there any budget LCD that are any good?
Originally posted by: JSFLY
Originally posted by: bamacre
Originally posted by: JackBurton
You're trying to buy a "gaming" PC on a console budget. Save up some more money if you want to play with the big boys.Originally posted by: Gusty987
$500 to play video games with a POS controller, no upgradeablity, and crappy TV resolution?
No thanks.
Utter nonsense.
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$37.99
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Thats a pretty good PC for 800