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Gaming or Dual Proc build

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drazkeavi

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Im building a computer, mainly for gaming purposes, but i would also like to toy with linux, rendering programs, Digital creation (audio/Video) and DVD Authoring.
Im considering two systems, one, a Dual Proc, Dual Core Opteron, another a Single Proc, X2 (probably, maybe the FX-57)

Here are the two systems, ill list components that each will have, then the components both will have. Feel free to make comments, suggestions/changes. Im looking into this with a nearly unlimited budget (under 20k)

Dual Proc
Tyan K8WE
2xOpteron 275s
16gigs XMS 3200 DDR
2x148gig SCSI 15k (Games/OS)
4x400gig SATA (Random Storage/Finished Products)
4x250(or 300 if out) SATA2 (Works in Progress)

Single Proc (Gaming)
DFI nF4 SLI-DR
A64 X2 (3000+ until that comes out)
4gigs Low Latency (probably Patriot or OCZ, Low lat so i can overclock without having to loosen the timings much)
2x148gig Raptors (Games/OS
4x250gig SATA2

in both systems
Audigy2 ZS
Matrox Parhelia? PCI 256MB (For up to 3 additional montiors
2-3 Dell 20.1 2005FPW Wide Aspect
Dell 24 2405FPW Wide Aspect
Saitek Eclipse Keyboard
Belkin Nostromo N52
Saitek X52 joystick

Software
Windows XP Pro-64
Office 2003 Pro
All adobe editing programs


This is a prelim setup, please give me your advice.
I will be Liquid cooling either system with Danger Den blocks
And the Powersupply will likely be an SLI capable Modular (Thermaltake is likely)
Case will probably be a Mountain Mods UFO-U2

Thanks for the help
 
Why would you need 16 gigs of ram? For gaming, anything over 2gigs is overkill. By the way, I'm pretty sure that xp-pro only supports up to 4 gigs (maybe 8?), so you'd need server software. Also, since this is for gaming, what is your graphics card going to be? The server seems way overkill to me, and the gaming system also seems overkill (although not as much).
 
What do you plan on using for a video card? Im not really going to touch your systems, because its really your money you can (waste) spend on this, but the Maxtrox is not a gaming GPU. Frankly your 20 grand dual opteron with dual cores will get smacked around by an Athlon XP with a 6800 Ultra.... if you go with the Maxtrox.

What I think you should do is use SLI video if you insist on 3 or 4 moniors or 1x high end G70 etc... in one PCIe x16 slot and the maxtrox for all your monitors on the other. (I cant remember if SLI can run four monitors or not, If i remember correctly it cannot.) Otherwise you can get SLI and a few PCI cards.

Whatever you do, dont get the maxtrox for gaming... lol
 
Did you read the whole thing? Im planning on getting either the first, or the second. Im not sure which, the hardware on both is what will be on the system, no matter which system I get. And im not sure about the video card, as I want a pair of G70s when they release, so im not sure what to get to hold me over. Oh, and the 16 gigs would be for when Im doing rending/gaming at the same time, and XP PRO-64 i beleive handles alot more ram, not sure exactly how much. But if it doesnt handle it, ill get Server 2003
 
Oh, no, i know, im not using the Maxtor for gaming. (although quite a few games support them) Ill be getting something for the PCI-E slots on the motherboards, just not sure what.

Cheesetogo, Windows XP might not, but im talking about xp pro-64 bit edition.

Microsoft product quote X PRO-64
"Large memory support
Windows XP Professional x64 Edition supports up to 128 gigabytes (GB) of RAM and 16 terabytes of virtual memory, enabling applications to run faster when working with large data sets. Applications can preload substantially more data into virtual memory, allowing rapid access by the 64-bit processor. "
 
The second will perform better in gaming due to the nforce4 MB. The dual proc dual core opteron system just seems like pure insanity to me lol. :Q
 
How will the second perform in rendering (once I get the X2?) Any ideas? I just want to play with it, probably wont even do it alot.
 
So is this really for content creation, or gaming? If you're doing a lot of rendering and video, and your programs support dual processors, then go with the opertons. I doubt you'll come close to using 16gb of ram though, try 2gb first if possible.
As for linux, it doesn't matter which system if you're just learning things. I'm guessing the first system is far beyond overkill in your case though 😉
 
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Thanks, I think ill probably build the Gaming system, instead of the dual Proc.. The X2 is compairable with 2 Opterons in everything but 3+ threaded apps anyway, which i probably wont be using much. So.. here is what Im looking at.

DFI nF4 SLI-DR
A64 X2 (3000+ until that comes out)
X800 or 6800GT until G70 is released
4gigs Low Latency (probably Patriot or OCZ, Low lat so i can overclock without having to loosen the timings much)
2x148gig Raptors (Games/OS
4x250gig SATA2
Audigy2 ZS
Matrox Parhelia? PCI 256MB (For up to 3 additional montiors
2-3 Dell 20.1 2005FPW Wide Aspect
Dell 24 2405FPW Wide Aspect
Saitek Eclipse Keyboard
Belkin Nostromo N52
Saitek X52 joystick

Software
Windows XP Pro-64
Office 2003 Pro
All adobe editing programs
 
I think you're over complicating this....

I'd say just get a decent workstations, why would you need 2-3 20" widescreens and then a 24" FPW?

I think you're honestly just trying to show off rather than build a practical system... but hey, do what you feel is best I suppose... what kind of rendering and DVD Authoring do you plan to do exactly?
 
Probably two PSUs, and no, im not showing off. I said i want to play with rendering, because i never have, i want to play around with it, same with authoring, on the creation side, ill be recording the local schools concert band and producing CDs for them that they can use for fundraising, and will probably do the same with DVDs.

As for what psus? after looking around, probably the PC Power and Cooling 810 watt SLI-Ready. OR Two Thermaltake Pure Power Modular 500watt
 
Where do you get 148g raptors ?? I thought they made only 36 & 74gig raptors ?

As far as a power supply look at the pc power & cooling 510 sli model. There is a review at linuxhardware.org that has more hd's then you have on a K8WE and the 510 is fine.

As far as a case goes look at the CM Stacker w/ SuperMicro Hotswap enclosures. I'm building a scsi dual opteron setup w/ 10 - 15k scsi drives.

Also you may want to consider the new LSI pci-e controllers, if you need more hd space..

Regards,
Jose
 
Go take a trip to Amsterdam and blow your money there.
With the money you have left over buy yourself a nice $800 system that'll do the excact same things as those systems you mentioned above.

 
An 800 dollar system will keep up with an X2 (500) a gig of ram (270) an SLI-DR (200) and 2x74gig Raptors (300)... sorry, but i doubt it.
 
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