gaming at 1920x1080 what do I need

[MrK6]

A 5850 will slaughter that resolution, especially once overclocked. Wait for a deal to get it for $250-270 and go for it. No other card is going to give you that kind of bang-for-your-buck.

 

[poohbear]

i think the 5870 is overkill, from the graphs i've seen a 5770 is enough to game @ 1080.

 

[toyota]

i think the 5870 is overkill, from the graphs i've seen a 5770 is enough to game @ 1080.

a 5870 is far from overkill if the rest of the system is up to par and you want to crank the settings. it just comes down to what framerates someone would be happy with and what settings they dont mind sacrificing.

 

[Xarick]

so.. it looks as if I can get a evga 470 for $364 shipped or a xfx 5870 for $410 shipped. if I utilized bing it would be $328 and $368 respectively. Which should I go for.

 

[happy medium]

gtx 470......be different.
It will be plenty at 1900x1080

 

[kinnie]

Here are my specs and I'm happy. I can run games on high.

Motherboard: ASUS P7P55D Deluxe P55 1366

Graphic Card: XFX Radeon HD 5870 1GB PCIe DDR5

Monitor: Dell 2407WFP-HC

DVD: LG GH22NS50 22XDVD-RW SATA

Sound: onboard

Power Supply: CORSAIR CMPSU-750HX 750W ATX12V 2.3 / EPS12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Modular Active PFC

CPU: Intel Core i7-860 Lynnfield 2.8GHz LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core

CPU Cooler: Thermaltake Silent 1156 CLP0552 92mm CPU Cooler For Intel Socket LGA1156

Memory: CORSAIR XMS3 8GB (4 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMX8GX3M4A1600C9

Hard Drive: SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive - OEM

Case: COOLER MASTER HAF 932 RC-932-KKN1-GP Black Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case

OS: Win7 Home Preium 64

 

[SgtSpoon]

Heat and temperature aren't the same thing though. A GPU can run at 95C and put out less heat than another running at 75C.

What?

 

[yh125d]

What?

Heat =/= temperature


A cup of water at 100c is a lot less heat than a gallon of water at 75c. Temperature is a measure, heat is an amount (more accurately, thermal energy should be sued instead of heat)


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xarick, I'd go 5850. Best bang/buck, more than sufficient performance, and cheapest. No brainer imo

 

[Madcatatlas]

you should factor in your crossfire/sli option depending on what card you choose, what power envelope you need to be within etc

gl

 

[CraigRT]

I'm running a 4890 @ 1Ghz core and I can play pretty much everything at 1920 x 1080 (there are obvious exceptions). Stands to reason that the next-gen cards should be able to as well.

I love my 4890 too. Runs great.

 

[3DVagabond]

I am still in need of help. Considering GTX 470 by zotac for $360 shipped or a 5870 for $400. Not sure I want to pay the extra $40. I only have a single gpu solution. 5850 is $300, but I am wondering if it can keep up all settings maxed. I don't plan on OCing it.

If all you want to do is blindly crank settings and not worry, then get the 5870. Even then you might not be able to do that with absolutely every game. By using a little more thought though you can easily get by with a lesser card and pocket some money.

Hopefully you have plenty of PSU. If you are limited at all (like I am w/500W, for example) then go with the 5850, for sure.

 

[jbh545]

If you want the most performance per dollar I'd think about two or three used GTX 280.

 

[nitromullet]

This is the same dilemna I currently have. I can't decide between the gtx470 and the hd5870 at 1920x1080.

The gtx470 has about the same or better minimum framerates as the hd5870 at 1920x1080 when AA and other image quality settings are increased. It's also $50 cheaper (last time I checked).

On the ATi side of the coin you get more overclocking headroom, and a less power hungry and quiet card.

That price war I was waiting for hasn't happened yet which is quite upsetting.

I've owned both, game at 1920x1200, and I personally prefer the GTX 470. Although, neither is a bad card by any means.

My GTX 470 actually has more headroom than my 5870 did as well. My 5870 was a dog and would gray screen at pretty much any clocks above stock. I haven't posted my final OC on the GTX 470 in my sig yet because I'm waiting on my water block to get here from EK, but so far with the stock cooling maxed out (loud) and a bump in the voltage I'm right on par with Guru3d's results: http://www.guru3d.com/article/overclocking-geforce-gtx-470-with-extra-gpu-voltage/2

If you get a 5870, make sure you get one that can have the voltages adjusted. This would include all the reference design ones, and some of the "V2" models. If you can't find reference, just do your research to get one that allows voltage adjustments if you plan on OCing.

Take my opinion for what it's worth... I had a 5870 back in October, so it was pretty close to launch (I got it for less than that sell for now). Drivers have probably gotten better since that time, and like I said, neither option is bad... I personally just prefer the GTX 470.

 

[darXoul]

Basically, get the fastest card you can afford. If you don't want a multi GPU solution, it's the GTX 480. If you want something quieter, cooler, cheaper and drawing less power (even though, I find all the heat/noise criticism of the 480 exaggerated), go for a 5870, preferably with 2 gigs of VRAM. A shelf lower would be 470 or 5850.

Don't let people misguide you by claiming that a midrange card "slaughters" full HD resolution. It's simply not true. Good luck playing the most demanding games on a midrange card in 1920*1080 with max details and 4/8*AA. Also, the statement "1 gig of VRAM is more than enough for any single monitor gaming needs" is also misleading. Look here:

http://www.pcgameshardware.de/aid,7...t-Was-bringen-2048-MiB-VRAM/Grafikkarte/Test/

I have a single GTX 480 for my 1920*1200 gaming, and let me tell you, there are enough examples of games where a faster GPU setup would be most welcome. I simply wanted to return to single GPU gaming so I grabbed the fastest chip available (and I'm happy with the card, mind you). Otherwise, I'd have bought 480 SLI for 1920*1200. Overkill? Not if you want really smooth fps @ max settings in games like Crysis, Metro, JC2, etc.

 

[Xarick]

I can't afford the 480. I could probably swing the 5870 or the 470.

 

[Xarick]

Okay.. well I am wracking my brain.. 5870 or 470.. I just can't decide.. heat+noise or no physx ati CCC. Both have major cons.

 

[Bill Brasky]

Are you kidding? You can't decide between a 5870 or gtx 470? The 5870 is quite a bit faster...

 

[Dadofamunky]

I'd factor in the increase in power consumption when deciding which card to buy. In that estimate, the 5850, even OCd, wins by a mile. The Nvidia card will add measurably to your electric bill, month after month, especially if you run your machine 24/7 (which I don't). It's not just the one-time cost, but the marginal cost of running it that should be considered. AMD is the better value proposition.

 

[toyota]

I'd factor in the increase in power consumption when deciding which card to buy. In that estimate, the 5850, even OCd, wins by a mile. The Nvidia card will add measurably to your electric bill, month after month, especially if you run your machine 24/7 (which I don't). It's not just the one-time cost, but the marginal cost of running it that should be considered. AMD is the better value proposition.

add measurably to the electric bill? lol. the 470 uses 10-15 more watts than a stock 5850 at idle and 75-80 more under load. sorry but there is no way in hell you would ever notice that on your electric bill. plus he asking about the 5870 so the power difference is even smaller.

 

[yh125d]

add measurably to the electric bill? lol. the 470 uses 10-15 more watts than a stock 5850 at idle and 75-80 more under load. sorry but there is no way in hell you would ever notice that on your electric bill. plus he asking about the 5870 so the power difference is even smaller.

Whether he would notice it or not is irrelevant. Wouldn't you be pissed if you found someone was stealing $5 from you every month?

 

[capita]

The only advice I can give is get ATi 5xxx. Forget nvidia. Today noise and temperature matter as much as few frames. It keeps your whole system stable in the long run. People who buy cheaper hotter cards then shell out more money on after cooling solutions are nuts.

As for which 5 series, that depends on how much you can afford. The more sugar (bucks) you add the more sweater (faster) it will be.

I play on 1920x1080 res with 5770. Except for crises every game I've tested runs fine for me on highest settings. Although anything above 30 frames is ok for me so you may have different standards. Crysis runs over 30fps on everything on high (instead of very high). On very high it averages on 24.

Alot of frames are lost going from 4x AA to 16x AA in any game. For example in street fighter 4, there is difference of more than 30 frames. Its probably cuz 5770 is only 128 bits

But people don't really play games like Crysis. These games are just for getting the wow effect and test their new gigs. Games that people really play are like left for dead series, call of duty series and they are optimized games that can run even in my old amd64 with 6600gt. RTS games require even less gpu power. They are more on cpu side. MMO games are always a generation or two behind FPS games.

So basically it depends on which games you gonna play and how much fps you want. If you are one of those guys who won't settle for anything less than 60 fps then get the fastest ATi card you can get right now.

Otherwise 5850 is a good enough.