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games with best graphics and gameplay

Crellion101

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i know unreal 2003 is on this list.... but are there other good visual games that can allow my ti4200 stretch it's visual-power stretching legs?
 

Vonkhan

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Return to Castle Wolfenstein =)

oldie but a goodie, crank it up
 

dguy6789

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Command + Conquer generals is great. Really pushes the system. Processor and ram and video are all eqaully pushed about. it is also very very fun, i play it all the time :)

To me, generals is the most system intensive game out there, that is untill doom III of course ;)(and yes, it is more intensive then ut2k3, not quite as much graphical, but way more processor wise)
 

kylebisme

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unreal2 is ok if you do not mind your framerate takeing down into the 20s no matter what settings you use. the devlopers have adminted that there is an issue with the lighting system and claim to have a patch on the way, i would realy hold off to see how that if i were you. unless you dont mind slideshows that is. also splinter cell is prety but they have anti-alisng broken in their game which i am waiting for a patch to reslolve before i put money into it. you can download a 3 level demo though and check it out, but i must warn you it is a bit rough on the preformace scale as well, athough from what i understand the patch they already released for the full version does help with that issue. morrowind is realy good looking too if you like rpgs were you run around and steal everything in site, the gameplay is not something i enjoy but many people like that kind of thing. ohh and i must second Vonkhan vote for rtcw, great game with great art. lastly, microsoft rallisport changlage is quite a quality raceing game with wonderful grapics, you can download a playable demo of that as well.
 

HappyNic

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how about battlefield 1942,, the muliplayer action is nice and the graphic look pretty good.. I love their trees..
 

BenSkywalker

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Mafia is an extremely good blend of gameplay and graphics(provided you have the hardware to crank all the details). Unreal2 edges it out on the visual front IMO, but it isn't close on the gameplay end.
 

chizow

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Soldier of Fortune 2 has the best FPS physics/animation/player control of any FPS I've played. Its highly realistic but still allows you to perform incredible feats with real-world weapons. Its also pretty realistic in terms of damage models and is a blend of realistic 1 shot kills vs. some other FPS' where it seems you can only kill something with a rocket launcher in a big pile of giblets.

Graphics are good, but definitely not on par with newer games like UT2K3 or BF1942 (player models aren't great, but terrain and vehicles are excellent IMO). SoF2 and JK2 look very good considering they are using a modifiied Q3 engine.

Multiplayer is a blast as well. Infiltration is a great blend of strategy and action, since you only have 1 life to live and no way to replenish your health. Also, ammunition and grenades are limited, so you really have to manage your resources. Rounds are typically short (3-5 mins), and the action is always intense. Respawning can be a PITA for those that die early, but that's where the strategy and resource management come into play.

Definitely check out SoF2 if you have the chance; it comes free (along with Hitman2) with the Audigy 2 retail, and can be had for quite cheap nowadays regardless.

Chiz
 

gcogger

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I'll have to disagree about SOF2, I'm afraid :)

I really enjoyed the original Soldier of Fortune, but I found the second one to have pretty poor graphics and annoying/tedious gameplay. I somehow finished it, but was glad when I was done... Similarly with RTCW - I'm the only person among my friends who even bothered to finish it (I seem to be a glutton for punishment!), as it became dull very quickly.

Jedi Knight II on the other hand, was great. I've also got No-One Lives Forever II - not played it much yet, but the graphics look really good and I'm told it's a great game. Unreal II looks fantastic, but again I've only just got it so can't comment on gameplay.

If you want a basic, fun and extremely manic FPS, I'd say that Serious Sam SE is well worth a go - it even still looks very good. I don't think I've ever played a game that's as fast, and with as many enemies rushing you at once. It's not exactly taxing on the brain, however ;-)
 

chizow

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Well, I think you identified the source of your "tediousness": you actually play single-player in a PC FPS. There are certainly games that do well stand-alone in single player, but I don't think many people buy FPS games nowadays solely for their single player modes.

Multi-player is a completely different animal though, as the damage models are very realistic and you can see the damage you cause bullet for bullet (unlike BF1942, RTCW, etc.). Player movement is also much more realistic, unlike the "gliding-on-air" effect you see in other games. It seems most other games have units fixed at the torso, with only their arms and lower-legs ever moving. Game play is much more intense and fast-paced, where you have to be constantly aware and moving or you're meat. This is also where EAX HD is a big bonus, as environmental audio makes a huge difference in gameplay. With good positional sound, you can tell very quickly where you are being shot from or in which direction an enemy approaches (from footsteps). It makes people wonder how I pull a full 180 after being shot and still end up surgically removing their head with my AK74 :) The ability to crouch/lean/shoot is still something that most games don't have, and the accuracy in controlled bursts with most weapons evens the playing field (no camping snipers like other games). Head-shots do what they are supposed to, and clearing a hallway full of snipers/campers with a cooked Smohg-92 frag 'nade is such an adrenaline rush.

Also, what resolutions were you running SoF2 at? Max details/trilinear/textures etc.? It still looks pretty good considering its about a year old (demo around now, retail in May) and based on a 3 year old engine. Graphics look better than JK2 which is based on a similar engine (Raven did both), particularly damage modeling and facial features. The Columbia maps were pretty graphically intense for the time, as the grass effects taxed low-end systems heavily.
 

gururu

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IMO splinter cell is the best game out right now. graphics and gameplay
 

gcogger

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Originally posted by: chizow
Well, I think you identified the source of your "tediousness": you actually play single-player in a PC FPS. There are certainly games that do well stand-alone in single player, but I don't think many people buy FPS games nowadays solely for their single player modes.

That's not true in my experience - of the 5 or 6 people at work who are into FPS games, only 1 or 2 have much interest in multiplayer. All of them are concerned about how a game plays in single-player mode.

Also, what resolutions were you running SoF2 at? Max details/trilinear/textures etc.? It still looks pretty good considering its about a year old (demo around now, retail in May) and based on a 3 year old engine. Graphics look better than JK2 which is based on a similar engine (Raven did both), particularly damage modeling and facial features. The Columbia maps were pretty graphically intense for the time, as the grass effects taxed low-end systems heavily.

I was running it at reasonably high settings (can't remember the details). I think what annoyed me about the graphics was that everything looked pretty dodgy when you got close up - totally artificial, like flat surfaces with badly drawn textures. Technically, the graphics were probably OK, but the game just never looked natural. IMHO, of course :)

 

kylebisme

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i think sof2 was very medocre all around, multiplayer was the best part but that is not saying much.
 

chizow

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Originally posted by: TheSnowman
i think sof2 was very medocre all around, multiplayer was the best part but that is not saying much.

It says plenty. Sounds like you sucked at it and gave up on it, considering many sites named it multiplayer game of the year (or BF 1942) and CS players have crowned it the heir apparent.

That's not true in my experience - of the 5 or 6 people at work who are into FPS games, only 1 or 2 have much interest in multiplayer. All of them are concerned about how a game plays in single-player mode.

Sounds like you guys need a challenge. Most hardcore gamers (here and elsewhere) don't even bother with single player other than to get a hang of the controls. I'm sure /Godmode = 1 must get boring. Regardless, it still offers the best physics/control of any FPS I've played; there simply isn't any other game that gives you the kind of control SoF2 does.

I was running it at reasonably high settings (can't remember the details). I think what annoyed me about the graphics was that everything looked pretty dodgy when you got close up - totally artificial, like flat surfaces with badly drawn textures. Technically, the graphics were probably OK, but the game just never looked natural. IMHO, of course :)

Most games look like crap if you are running low detail textures, 16-bit, 640x480 etc. What video card did you run it with? I'd be able to tell just from that what kind of settings you'd be able to run it at with a decent frame rate. If you're talking about some of the background textures (like skylines and such) I'd agree, but any rendered object/player looked as good as you're gonna find on a game running off the Q3 engine.


 

kylebisme

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Originally posted by: chizow


It says plenty. Sounds like you sucked at it and gave up on it, considering many sites named it multiplayer game of the year (or BF 1942) and CS players have crowned it the heir apparent.

well i am a firm believer that we are all intitled to our own openions chizow. however, if you want to investable your accusations i would be happy to reinstall the lame excuse for a game that you worship and proceed to show you exactly how capable i am of playing the game. i suppose i should mention tend to hold a high spot in the ranks on my clans cs server where i usually do my online gaming and i also compete in the both the friendly fire and standard objective ladders of ogl where my clan ranks #1 and #3 respectively, just to give you some idea of exactly what you are setting yourself up for.


oh and on a side note, i am still wondering if you might be so kind as to take the time to formulate a rebuttal for my response to your comments on 3dmark03 which i found blatantly absurd back in this thread here.


- reefer kills
 

EdipisReks

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Originally posted by: TheSnowman
well i am a firm believer that we are all intitled to our own openions chizow.

i don't know about that, but i think that we are all entitled to our own opinions.
 

chizow

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Originally posted by: TheSnowman
Originally posted by: chizow


It says plenty. Sounds like you sucked at it and gave up on it, considering many sites named it multiplayer game of the year (or BF 1942) and CS players have crowned it the heir apparent.

well i am a firm believer that we are all intitled to our own openions chizow. however, if you want to investable your accusations i would be happy to reinstall the lame excuse for a game that you worship and proceed to show you exactly how capable i am of playing the game. i suppose i should mention tend to hold a high spot in the ranks on my clans cs server where i usually do my online gaming and i also compete in the both the friendly fire and standard objective ladders of ogl where my clan ranks #1 and #3 respectively, just to give you some idea of exactly what you are setting yourself up for.


oh and on a side note, i am still wondering if you might be so kind as to take the time to formulate a rebuttal for my response to your comments on 3dmark03 which i found blatantly absurd back in this thread here.


- reefer kills

I didn't bother responding to your comments in that thread b/c I doubt you could tell the difference between a pixel pipe and a lead pipe if either smacked you across the forehead. I don't argue with children, I prefer discussions with adults. I found no point in arguing with you b/c I simply don't think you have the mental capacity to grasp the concepts being discussed.

CS, now we're talking about a dated game. It must be a real bummer for you when you find your L337 bunny-hopping skills don't cut it in new games. Or maybe you're just another wall-hacking sniper? As for your pathetic challenge, I've laddered in any game I've put more than 40 hours into, so all I can say is
bring it.. You can bring your little CS clan with you if you like; I can AIM up some of my old SoF2 clanmates as well if you're up for it.

Chiz
 

kylebisme

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oh i forgot to mention that it is rtcw where we compete in ogl, not cs which we just play for fun these days sense there are far too many damn cheaters in that game. as for my understanding of the 3d technology industry, i think you would be suppriesed and we might even be able to learn some things from each other if you could back off the presumptuous and slanderous comments and made an effort to communicate in a more civil manor. as for the challenge, i cant help but wonder if your accusations of me cheating are of self-denial which leads to projecting ones faults on others; hence, i am not particularly interested in playing against you. however, sense i did make the challenge i would be more than happly stand by my words; so if you do want to carry though with this please feel free to drop me a private message so we can arrange things.