#Gamergate, the war on nerds, and the corruption of the left and the free press

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DrDoug

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Men have been getting threatened, tortured and murdered for voicing contrary opinions for centuries. Seems like women just aren't appreciating equality.

If you think equality applies to threats, torture and murder, you are fucking nuts. Sane people are against shit like that, only a nutjob would try to justify it as equality. Besides that, the threatening, torturing and murder that men have suffered in the past has been at the hands of other men. If you really believe what you said then you have a problem with women and no problem with threats, torture and murder. You might want to think that through a bit more.

If you still think that way, good luck convincing other women that you are right about this.
 

thraashman

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Wow OP. This is one of the most misogynist and just plain out head-up-ass crazy posts I've seen in P&N from anyone other than the regular crazies. The format of your first post might as well have been posted by stewox and straight from Infowars. I love the use of far right wing sources too as it just reinforces the sexism that is so prevalent the American right.
 

DrDoug

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Wow OP. This is one of the most misogynist and just plain out head-up-ass crazy posts I've seen in P&N from anyone other than the regular crazies. The format of your first post might as well have been posted by stewox and straight from Infowars. I love the use of far right wing sources too as it just reinforces the sexism that is so prevalent the American right.

Spot on.

As an aside, relating to your siggy:

"Blacks in Ferguson deserve whatever they get from KKK."

"When blacks threaten, they have to expect push back from some quarter. This is how civil war begins."

"When the police fail to act to stop the rioting, people have to defend themselves."

You nailed it in your sig line. :biggrin:
 

Nebor

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If you think equality applies to threats, torture and murder, you are fucking nuts. Sane people are against shit like that, only a nutjob would try to justify it as equality. Besides that, the threatening, torturing and murder that men have suffered in the past has been at the hands of other men. If you really believe what you said then you have a problem with women and no problem with threats, torture and murder. You might want to think that through a bit more.

If you still think that way, good luck convincing other women that you are right about this.

I don't try to convince women of things. That was my original point in this thread.

I'm not a gamergater, because I don't have the time or interest to fight this meaningless internet fight, but they seem to represent more of my beliefs than their opposition. Either way, games will continue to be made and marketed to the largest gaming demographic, and people will continue to disregard what women think.
 

Nebor

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Wow OP. This is one of the most misogynist and just plain out head-up-ass crazy posts I've seen in P&N from anyone other than the regular crazies. The format of your first post might as well have been posted by stewox and straight from Infowars. I love the use of far right wing sources too as it just reinforces the sexism that is so prevalent the American right.

Go look at either one of the threads about this in PC Gaming. He's clearly a very active member of gamergate.

At some point the men's rights movement jumped on board with gamergate (probably just to oppose feminists) so you see a lot of strange bedfellows.
 
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I'm not a gamergater, because I don't have the time or interest to fight this meaningless internet fight, but they seem to represent more of my beliefs than their opposition. Either way, games will continue to be made and marketed to the largest gaming demographic, and people will continue to disregard what women think.

I'm not going to get into a feminist debate with you, because you've got your mind made up, but I will say this. I agree with you completely that people bitching on the internet isn't going to convince game developers to market towards a particular segment of the population; sales figures will. But we're seeing a shift towards greater participation of women in the gaming scene, and as developers realize there's a market there that isn't being fully capitalized, you will start to see a shift towards stronger portrayals of women in games. It doesn't mean CoD and GTA won't be made anymore; it doesn't mean that "chick games" are going to become the bestsellers and the male audience is going to be ignored. But it's a fool who sees the trends in who is buying games and thinks "yeah, women are going to be disregarded as this industry moves forward." If the movie industry has proven anything, it's that there is enough room in the marketplace for both Transformers and Pretty Woman to exist (and that men will continue to be the market most heavily targeted by blockbusters).
 

Nebor

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I'm not going to get into a feminist debate with you, because you've got your mind made up, but I will say this. I agree with you completely that people bitching on the internet isn't going to convince game developers to market towards a particular segment of the population; sales figures will. But we're seeing a shift towards greater participation of women in the gaming scene, and as developers realize there's a market there that isn't being fully capitalized, you will start to see a shift towards stronger portrayals of women in games. It doesn't mean CoD and GTA won't be made anymore; it doesn't mean that "chick games" are going to become the bestsellers and the male audience is going to be ignored. But it's a fool who sees the trends in who is buying games and thinks "yeah, women are going to be disregarded as this industry moves forward." If the movie industry has proven anything, it's that there is enough room in the marketplace for both Transformers and Pretty Woman to exist (and that men will continue to be the market most heavily targeted by blockbusters).

90% of "female gamers" play Candy Crush, Farmville and Words with Friends. The problem is that their representatives aren't trying to improve those games for women. They're trying to change the games that men like in order to be less offensive to people who are never going to play them.

They will be rightfully ignored by the major developers.
 

DrDoug

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I don't try to convince women of things. That was my original point in this thread.

I'm not a gamergater, because I don't have the time or interest to fight this meaningless internet fight, but they seem to represent more of my beliefs than their opposition. Either way, games will continue to be made and marketed to the largest gaming demographic, and people will continue to disregard what women think.

If women are going to be ignored by the gaming industry then why are the gamergaters (and idiots like you) squealing like stuck pigs? Are you afraid of something? Yes, yes you are. You're afraid of women...lol! Some men... you're more like entitled little boys who refuse to grow up. I'm a gamer and have been since the 80's, I want nothing to do with your childish stunt nor do I want to be associated with it. Real gamers will never support your kind, nor would real men.

Our adult daughter grew up around computers, is an avid FPS gamer and has been since Doom was released. She hides her gender because boys became assholes when they found out she was a female. It would devastate some boys if they learned that they were being dominated in their manly FPS by a chick. What I find funny is that since she is a computer nerd and an avid Linux user who helps many in the Steam community who are running on Linux, the guys think she's a dude...lol! A gay dude at that. When they get talking about the ladies and she's asked her opinion about how hot a particular woman is, she tells them she prefers guys and they assume that she's gay. Now that is funny!

An added benefit for her is that since she is privy to the 'private' discussions the boys are having, she knows EXACTLY what assholes most of them are.
 

Nebor

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If women are going to be ignored by the gaming industry then why are the gamergaters (and idiots like you) squealing like stuck pigs? Are you afraid of something? Yes, yes you are. You're afraid of women...lol! Some men... you're more like entitled little boys who refuse to grow up. I'm a gamer and have been since the 80's, I want nothing to do with your childish stunt nor do I want to be associated with it. Real gamers will never support your kind, nor would real men.

Our adult daughter grew up around computers, is an avid FPS gamer and has been since Doom was released. She hides her gender because boys became assholes when they found out she was a female. It would devastate some boys if they learned that they were being dominated in their manly FPS by a chick. What I find funny is that since she is a computer nerd and an avid Linux user who helps many in the Steam community who are running on Linux, the guys think she's a dude...lol! A gay dude at that. When they get talking about the ladies and she's asked her opinion about how hot a particular woman is, she tells them she prefers guys and they assume that she's gay. Now that is funny!

An added benefit for her is that since she is privy to the 'private' discussions the boys are having, she knows EXACTLY what assholes most of them are.

Cliffs: Your lying daughter is friends with a bunch of assholes.
 

Riparian

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Cliffs: Your lying daughter is friends with a bunch of assholes.

She's a liar because she doesn't lay out all of her personal information on the internet for everyone to see? Next time you post, try reading your post a couple of times, make sure it's aligned with reality, and then click submit.
 

CitizenKain

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Wall of dumbshit by a idiot

If you are a gamergate supporting person I have a single piece of advice for you: Eat a bullet.

Wishing death on another poster is over the line, even in P&N.

Perknose
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DrDoug

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Cliffs: Your lying daughter is friends with a bunch of assholes.

That's the best part, she hasn't had to lie about a damned thing. They just assume that she's a guy with higher-pitched voice...lol! She even has a Youtube channel where she does game reviews where they can they hear her voice and think she's a young guy. Same with in-game chat. Stupid fucks don't even realize she's not one of 'them'...lol! They've taught her to keep a low profile if she wants to have fun gaming and not be harassed by them. I agree with your other point though; they are assholes.

Just like you.
 

fskimospy

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That's the best part, she hasn't had to lie about a damned thing. They just assume that she's a guy with higher-pitched voice...lol! She even has a Youtube channel where she does game reviews where they can they hear her voice and think she's a young guy. Same with in-game chat. Stupid fucks don't even realize she's not one of 'them'...lol! They've taught her to keep a low profile if she wants to have fun gaming and not be harassed by them. I agree with your other point though; they are assholes.

Just like you.

Nebor just says dumb and offensive things to get a rise out of people. It's unlikely he actually believes the shit he says and if he does, that just means he has a mental disorder. Either way, what's the point? I just poke back at him and move on.
 

DrDoug

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Nebor just says dumb and offensive things to get a rise out of people. It's unlikely he actually believes the shit he says and if he does, that just means he has a mental disorder. Either way, what's the point? I just poke back at him and move on.

I go for the extended poke. :biggrin:
 

0roo0roo

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Yep, just a bunch of poor misunderstood nerds


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The face palm is strong with you.
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These are deliberate trolls. Brianna claimed to be fearful then the next day was tweeting her current location while going on a press tour.

Threats?
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Notice a lack of concern for her "threat" narrative. Colbert fans are so misogynist that she had to flee her home!!!
 
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0roo0roo

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The reason that a lot of people don't take this movement seriously is because you're using the language of holocaust victims to discuss people having a different opinion about videogames than you do. It's an almost comedic level of hyperbole. Feminists are demanding equality in videogames, and that's exactly like the Nazis because ethics in gaming journalism. You need to pull your head out of the echo chamber, take a break, play some videogames and realize that you are taking this WAY too seriously.

I'm using the language which applies.

No one is saying the holocaust is coming, so don't apply the same logic of hysteria which the sjw's use all the time.

And really, the only one to directly bring up the holoacaust in this issue is the sjw Geordie Tait, apparently gamergate people deserve gas chambers for that male feminist. We are that evil. http://www.hitbox.tv/video/316600


But the fact is that these people are a cancer on the left, and if they don't target you now, they will eventually. If you had asked someone just a few years who would the sjw's or radical feminists would target next, do you think they would answer the atheists? I'm pretty sure those people would have been ranked at the bottom as targets, after all, why would anyone assume those people to be misogynists....but it happened..didn't it.

Feminists aren't demanding equality in video games, they are simply pushing an agenda.
It kind of says it all that Anita Sarkeesian the face of this movement.

Anita Sarkeesian Debunked in Under a Minute
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FW-69xXD734

Is a fraud with no genuine interest in games at all. But the very fact that she was never called on this obvious fact is the problem. The fact that the media wrote hundreds if not thousands of stories on her "victimhood" for this long while not even daring to investigate the issue is the problem.

Again, I just have to point to this site, the very fact that the readership for this site is majority male proves by their standards that you are excluding women from this interest. I wonder how many concessions you would make, and how many apologies would you offer groveling to these women if they claimed you were the reason they had no interest in reading the newest video card review. And until the numbers were equalized you would have to hold your head in shame as a misogynist by default.


A lot of people like to stay ignorant. Its not something to be proud of and its why they've been able to get away with this for so long.

This doesn't matter?? Do you realize one of the corrupt sites involved in gamergate was the one which broke the story which led to the humiliation of that poor scientist who had worked on landing a freakin probe on a comet. These people are shameless in their abuse of people all the while hiding behind the banner of "social justice".
 

0roo0roo

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If you are a gamergate supporting person I have a single piece of advice for you: Eat a bullet.

Wishing death on another poster is over the line, even in P&N.

Perknose
Forum Director

Which is kind of the point.

The coverage of this has been incredibly distorted and inaccurate. His sentiments have applied since day one because the press has been engaged in the tactics of hate mongering. They have been creating prejudice against an entire group which has allowed people like him to label an entire group as evil, thus justifying their responses which have no limits. So the truth has always been that these people have behaved far worse than gamergate as a whole.

http://gamergate.me/2014/11/data-study-on-harassment/
 

fskimospy

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I have definitely found that the strongest argument against gamergate proponents simply comes from allowing them to talk at length. The bizarre mix of massive misogyny and a persecution complex, all about a largely meaningless topic, is a sight to see.
 

0roo0roo

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If women are going to be ignored by the gaming industry then why are the gamergaters (and idiots like you) squealing like stuck pigs? Are you afraid of something? Yes, yes you are. You're afraid of women...lol! Some men... you're more like entitled little boys who refuse to grow up. I'm a gamer and have been since the 80's, I want nothing to do with your childish stunt nor do I want to be associated with it. Real gamers will never support your kind, nor would real men.

Our adult daughter grew up around computers, is an avid FPS gamer and has been since Doom was released. She hides her gender because boys became assholes when they found out she was a female. It would devastate some boys if they learned that they were being dominated in their manly FPS by a chick. What I find funny is that since she is a computer nerd and an avid Linux user who helps many in the Steam community who are running on Linux, the guys think she's a dude...lol! A gay dude at that. When they get talking about the ladies and she's asked her opinion about how hot a particular woman is, she tells them she prefers guys and they assume that she's gay. Now that is funny!

An added benefit for her is that since she is privy to the 'private' discussions the boys are having, she knows EXACTLY what assholes most of them are.

Your post reeks of projection.

Girls of #Gamergate 5th hangout!
Queeny
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOuObprVWok



Threedog's #Gamergate News Radio Ep. 8
Oliver Campbell
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tw1-a8DieGg


Don't let the truth of the situation change your opinion. After all, you are a mature adult with an adult daughter, surely why bother with things like "knowing" things right? Having an informed opinion takes too much work, better to have prejudices...
 

Zorba

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Edit, never mind, don't want to be dragged into whatever the hell this thread is about.
 
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0roo0roo

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Wow OP. This is one of the most misogynist and just plain out head-up-ass crazy posts I've seen in P&N from anyone other than the regular crazies. The format of your first post might as well have been posted by stewox and straight from Infowars. I love the use of far right wing sources too as it just reinforces the sexism that is so prevalent the American right.

"misogyny" has lost all meaning now that its been abused at this level.

Why is breitbart one of the few outlets writing articles honestly about gamergate? Why are some right wing publications giving us a fair shake? Because they exist outside the leftist media echo chamber. Which is not to say gamergate is right wing, because the truth is
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closer to this.
Gamergate is as diverse as the rest of the population, and being that its mostly a younger demographic in gaming it is more progressive than the population as a whole, which is why they are all the more angrier when they were betrayed by their own "side". So don't even try pretending this is a right wing issue.

Your lack of concern for knowing what you are talking about before having an opinion is exactly the problem we are revealing. Your laughing at the right wing, fox news, the tea party has been revealed to be pure hypocrisy at this point. Gamers woke up one day and realized its all fox news.

And again, please explain





Oliver Campbell stream #gamergate Threedog's news radio
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8SG7QuxqD4


Girls of #Gamergate 5th hangout!
Queeny
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOuObprVWok


#GamerGate Happenings Recap with Socks 16/11
NEET LIFE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRXsR2QYwxk

A heartfelt apology from Lizzyf620
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Women, and every stripe under the sun.



All the while on the sjw san francisco left you have these people.
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working in media

Ben Dreyfus "engagement" editor at Mother Jones
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These are the children of wealth, not victims, but bullies. And yes that is Richard Dreyfuss's son.