Cersei seems really good at creating monsters she can't control.
Fully agree.I doubt Tywin would have made the same mistake.
This seemed inevitable. In the beginning there was some question as to whether or not High Sparrow was what he said he was, but everything since then implied there was only one way for this to end up. Reintroducing Cersei's cousin, the acolytes carving symbols into their foreheads...these dudes are true believers. And aside from maybe Little Finger, no one has more sins in Kings Landing than Cersei. The funny thing is High Sparrow didnt even have to have a scheme. It seems the smartest person this season so far was Cersei's uncle. He knew she didnt know wtf she was doing and left.
For most of the season I thought these episodes were kinda meh, but this one actually advanced two major storylines significantly. It was almost worth it to see Cersei's vainglorious shit eating grin that she's had the last 4-5 episodes wiped off her face.
Wow, only on the internet will people argue that "have sex with me or else" isn't technically rape if the person chooses sex. Go try that argument in court and see how it works "but your honor, I only threatened her to get her consent, it was consensual!" Lol. Because on the internet, everyone is right!
I still dont understand Cersei's endgame thoughts. Who does she expect her son to marry so that the Lannisters remain in power? Every suitor that comes along she wants to murder or drive mad. And why does everyone follow her? She has no claim to power anymore. No one has verified that any order she has given has come from the king.
Queen you shall be... until there comes another, younger and more beautiful, to cast you down and take all that you hold dear.
You mean her brother Jaime?This seemed inevitable. In the beginning there was some question as to whether or not High Sparrow was what he said he was, but everything since then implied there was only one way for this to end up. Reintroducing Cersei's cousin, the acolytes carving symbols into their foreheads...these dudes are true believers. And aside from maybe Little Finger, no one has more sins in Kings Landing than Cersei. The funny thing is High Sparrow didnt even have to have a scheme. It seems the smartest person this season so far was Cersei's uncle. He knew she didnt know wtf she was doing and left.
How about leaving out the stupid poison thing all together? Save us from all those repeated shots with the same exact camera passes over and over and over. As hot as she was, that whole scene was amateur hour again.For most of the season I thought these episodes were kinda meh, but this one actually advanced two major storylines significantly. It was almost worth it to see Cersei's vainglorious shit eating grin that she's had the last 4-5 episodes wiped off her face.
Yeah, her or Melisandre. I'm surprised some people are complaining about that prison scene. They dont really have any beef with Bronn, and he's a warrior like themselves so wtf, give him the antidote after making him squirm a bit. Better than killing off Bronn slowly after the worst fight scene in GoT. He deserves to go out like a boss.
Universe. We don't know the time period. I don't blame you. Most people think Star Wars is set in the future.You couldn't rape your wife in the time period in which this show is based. She was required to put out anytime the husband wanted it.
Wasn't that later in the episode?the gift
castle black, pt1
ser alastair crowley is still an asshole.
winterfell, pt1
sansa is in pretty rough shape, clearly being abused to hell by ramsay. theon finds ramsay sitting in the broken tower - i saw that coming a mile away.
I expected the fire to do nothing to his body, since he's a Targaryan.castle black, pt2
maester aemon's death is very well done, imo. i'm not sure why this scene (or most scenes, for that matter) needed to be split in 2.
My take: He needed Melesandra's invitation and his wife's approval to get with her before but now he's getting all grabby even when she didn't invite it. Also, what was that about the sellswords who left? "Only loyal to gold?" Sounds like they weren't very loyal if you were paying them and they left. Are they saying that he wasn't paying them? Then how did he ever expect them to fight?winterfell, pt2
it seems they keep doing this to get from A to C without covering B.
somewhere north of winterfell (known as "the gift")
stannis' momentum is fading. is he really willing to sacrifice his daughter for the thone? yikes!
Good point. That's more in line with what I'd expect from her just like I'd expect Cersei to threaten the guy when he turned on her. Neither had the reaction I expected.castle black, pt3
the night's watch is made up of thieves, rapists and murderers, still. honestly, gilly being attacked could have happened the day after she arrived there. the wolf saving them was another thing i saw coming a mile away, but i expected the wolf to tear them up. this leads up to the most realistic sex scene ever in game of thrones. another gift.
mereen, pt1
tyrion convinces the slave buyer (don king?) to take him with jorah, and the buyer slaps a handful of coins into the trader's hand. in the very next shot, the buyer has more coins in his hand to flip around. perhaps more gifts?
as lousy as daario neharis is, his idea of killing every single master is probably danerys' best option.
king's landing, pt 1
lady olenna's usual prowess is totally ineffective against a true believer, but it was pretty clumsy the way the writers simply tried to pay him off. a better approach would have been "i know you don't want gold, so what do you want?"
It's fun watching her whine at him about not knowing her as if he's just an uncle when we know it's her father.dorne
jamie is ignorant of myrcella's total disconnect from the family, and fails to point out the obvious - they've already tried to kill you once.
She was raising his heart rate so that the poison would move through his system faster. Still stupid. Poison always having an antidote is like Texas Hiker's expectation that every virus can be cured by throwing resources at it.bronn's scene is fucked up. the poison is apparently activated by the sight of boobs. then she let's him off the hook. her gift to him? it could have easily clinked off the bars and landed out of anyone's reach, which could be a good way to kill someone off. at least we're treated to a little song which adds a lot to the sense of immersion. and the hot sand snake. gifts for us!
All I could think of was "gladiator rip-off." Oh, and "what is she going to do when she finds out that they are directly defying her and fighting slaves instead of free men?"king's landing, pt2
baelish gifts olenna "a handsome young man" but if he's referring to lancel condemning cersei, wasn't that happening with or without baelish?
mereen, pt2
jorah sees danerys at the pit, and decides now is his time. he sweeps through the surviving fighters like the angel of death, only he doesn't actually kill anyone. the gift of life?. tyrion is trying to file his way out of chains like an old cliche when the guard chops his chains with a sword??? ok. the guard has given the gift of freedom, the freedom to run directly out to the fighting pit. anyway, tyrion announces himself as jorah's gift to her. will she keep him? no receipt so you can't return him. leave him in the closet? a ha! re-gift him!
Can't believe she wasn't ready with a return threat or something. Are we supposed to accept that this was a surprise to her?king's landing, pt3
cersei brings margaery a gift of her leftover dinner, the first gift that's refused in this episode.
cersei's religious fanatics inevitably turn on her. i'm reminded of egyptian president and father of modern terrorism, anwar sadat.
I didn't fail to empathize. I refused to delude myself about WHY I was empathizing and called it what it was: A tough decision to follow through with with emotions beyond the technical circumstances. I said so specifically last week when I said that it was the same emotions as if it were rape, but that does not make it rape.no, you suck as a human being because it was rape and you're failing to empathize with that fact
Yes. She. Did. It's not even debatable. She never showed any sign of distress to Ramsay in the episode. Yes, she grit her teeth and made a strained face, but Ramsay never saw it. I guess Gilly raped Samwell by your logic. She heard his pain, knew about his desire to stay true to his vows, and moved on anyway. That BITCH.Either you're sociopathic, trolling, in massive denial, or are just straight up ignorant, maybe a combination of any or some others I might be missing. Sansa never consented to Ramsay's sexual advances, she never needed to revoke any consent because she never gave it. Then her cries of obvious trauma/distress would be enough to convince any jury with any shred of human empathy. Even the dehumanized Reek could see what you fail to.
They conveyed it perfectly well, but we are arguing about what happened in that episode, not what happened after. Even then, lots of deadbeats beat their women. They get charged with domestic abuse. They only get charged with rape if rape is also a factor. Domestic violence is not the same thing as rape.no, she was raped in that scene and apparently many times after, at best the writers simply failed to convey that fact for people as apparently dense as you
Those people are idiots in more ways than that. they chose something that wasn't even rape before starting their crusade. Why do YOU agree with them?the people calling for boycotts are likely hypocrites for failing to do the same to the crimes enacted upon Theon that are just as bad if not worse, or any of the other horrible things that happen to many other characters in this universe. If anything Sansa hasn't suffered nearly as bad as those who have had it the worst. Heck, this episode (7) is an excellent example of that fact when Theon/Reek shares that what Sansa is experiencing can get much worse...
Fair enough. We disagree about whether or not it was rape. I still have a problem with people simply deciding that "it was rape" without even considering what led to that. Every single person severely over reacting like that FIRST had to jump to the "RAPE!" conclusion, so i am addressing that too.wrong, and now it seems possible that your position might simply be one of severe overreaction. I'm not screaming "RAPE!", I'm simply acknowledging that she got raped. I have no more problem with Sansa getting raped than I had with Theon being brutally tortured.
At the wedding, when they asked if she "takes this man." There was no threat of death for saying "no." There was simply the knowledge that she would be less able to assert herself over The North and remain home. There WAS the knowledge that she would have to consummate the marriage with intercourse that night if she said "yes." She said "yes." It was a tough pill to swallow for what she wanted, but it was what she wanted and was not forced upon her. Minutes earlier she could have asked the woman dressing her to help right away. Before that she could have told Baelish "no." Hell, in the room with Ramsay, she could have changed her mind and refused to consummate. Killing a guest in your home does not bode well in that world.again, it is entirely possible to consent to rape. If someone presents you with the option of death or sex, not choosing death is not the same as consenting to lawful sex.
Good luck proving that in the court of law. To have an equivalent situation "in our society," there would need to be an agreement that it be consummated with intercourse (since marriage does not come with that assumption here). Let's just say it was in the prenup. That *IS* consent. She didn't say or do anything that the witness (Theon) could testify as revoking the consent given when she accepted that agreement. She never called it off. It wasn't technically rape, therefore, it wasn't legally rape.except it was rape, and would legally be rape in our society, although not most of Westeros (although some more civilized characters such as Tyrion would see it for what it really was)
...but GUESS WHAT? The equivalent in modern society would be making a CONTRACT that says that the marriage is not valid unless consummated and that absolutely would show that her agreement to marry constituted consent. The show has spelled it out for us multiple times: A MARRIAGE MUST BE CONSUMMATED TO BE CONFIRMED. It is expected. It is PART of taking the vows, therefore the sex on wedding night is consented to BY the vows. No one is talking about sex that happens later on. This is a fantasy world where that situation exists, but that doesn't mean it wasn't consent. You do know what "expectation" means, right? It was UNDERSTOOD. You can't just ignore that part when transplanting the scenario in the context of our society.yes it would. In modern society, husbands and wives do not owe each other sex. That simple fact is what people are empathizing with, and some are simply too fragile to be watching Game of Thrones.
The story being told HERE (this episode) had progressed from the story being told THERE (the last episode). In THAT EPISODE, she had not been raped. Period. Not technically. Not legally. Not at all in any way.this is where you fail to recognize the story being told here, I can only hope its because you are dense and/or in denial to try and protect yourself from imagining the horror of the truth; Sansa was raped, plain and simple, shit happens in this horrible world of Westeros, and Theon is right, it could be worse.
It wasn't rape. As I have said before, it had all of the emotional impact of her being raped, but it that doesn't make it TECHNICALLY rape.this is where I think you're pretty badly screwed up, because now it seems like you're in denial that it was rape simply because you're upset with the fact that other people are irrationally upset with it. I'm not upset with it in that way, not at all. Does it suck that Sansa got raped? Sure, I wasn't enjoying that scene, but it happened, and for better or worse it will affect her character moving forward. Sometimes characters just up and die without doing something great like we expect them to (Ned, Renly, Robb, Oberyn...) Sansa getting raped is something I find far less objectionable than Catelyn getting her throat slit after watching her son get murdered right after his pregnant wife (and every other man/woman supporting house Stark)
As far as we know it was within her expectations and that is precisely why she sucked it up and didn't speak up or undeniably revoke her consent. It's one thing to say that she might have been too intimidated, it's another thing entirely to say that she absolutely was and therefore DID revoke consent. Jsut because we don't like the guy and just because she doesn't like the guy doesn't make it any less HER CHOICE that she followed through with.see its hard to get a read on you, maybe you're just caught up in the semantics of legality, when the simple fact of the matter is that it was and has been made crystal clear that Sansa was not ok with Ramsay's advances, and any level of consent she had previously given or implied no longer applied.
"Assaulted?" So now we are assuming that doggy-style is assault? The bruises are from another episode and we had no reason to assume that he buggered her (or that the choice of orifice changes anything).Once again, she didn't know she was going to be assaulted on her wedding night. Awkward/uncomfortable sex is not the same thing as sexual assault.
It is there. No question. Are you even watching the same show? We have to sign a document and get it registered at City Hall or something while they have to consummate through intercourse. The show has made this very clear and even implied that a witness is somewhat normal/expected. It is why her marriage to Tyrian was nullified. She could have nullified the wedding by revoking consent. SHE FAILED TO DO THIS. She went in with the expectation of consummation which ABSOLUTELY IS PRIOR CONSENT and began voluntarily began taking her clothes off when he got rough by tearing her clothes off (which sometimes happens in rough consensual sex too). She took her clothes off for Tyrian too. It's an undeniably expected part of the ceremony. As for "buttsex," there was no way to know what orifice he was using. I assume that confirmation/consummation requires [ichinisan]vaginal intercourse[/ichinisan] and, thus, the potential for an heir, but who's to say it wasn't simply doggy style? Not sure how that changes anything.not consenting to Ramsay's sexual commands/advances when the time came is all that is necessary for it to be rape when Ramsay then proceeded to take her without that consent. Sex isn't something you sit down and agree to before having it and then there is no take-backs after that "handshake", if you're thrown a curve ball like surprise buttsex...oh but you already "consented", your ass is mine now!
I seem to be defending it quite easily. That's because all the facts support me. I couldn't care less about the whole "gamersgate" crap. I had no idea what it was about for almost a year until I glanced at the thread here and never came back. I don't even know if "pro-gamersgate" means you support the anti-gaming SJWs or the anti-SJW gamers. Trying to categorize me using that is misguided. #notyourshield (yes, I picked up on that from my brief visit to the thread)It's a completely indefensible position, but this is the internet. No matter how wrong you might be, the only option is to dig in and and stand your ground!
Dude has a history, though: probably the most stubborn poster on here in the last year, so he will never consider the possibility that he is wrong about anything. Ah well. :\
There must be some anger in real life, I suppose--gamersgate nonsense, RWM syndrome, whatever it is, this discussion is a projection of some slight being felt by "evil feminists ruining mah life!" Whatever it is, it's too late to turn back when one is convinced that that their RepressedWhiteMaleJusticeWarrior status must be heard.
It sounds like I'm in the right place to discuss this particular brand of idiocy. "It's rape because she made a face!" She made a face because it was a tough pill to swallow and she knew that when she consented.Lets keep that in the GOT thread pls.
...except that somehow all of the actual facts end up being on the "not rape" side of the issue.I let it go before I started typing. The issue isn't up for debate unless we start changing long-standing dictionary and legal definitions and go into hypothetical land. We might as well debate whether the sky is blue or green.
In any case it is an important point. Sansa would be a radically different character if all of that was consensual, given her behavior.
You mean her brother Jaime?
How about leaving out the stupid poison thing all together? Save us from all those repeated shots with the same exact camera passes over and over and over. As hot as she was, that whole scene was amateur hour again.
Universe. We don't know the time period. I don't blame you. Most people think Star Wars is set in the future.
Wasn't that later in the episode?
I expected the fire to do nothing to his body, since he's a Targaryan.
My take: He needed Melesandra's invitation and his wife's approval to get with her before but now he's getting all grabby even when she didn't invite it. Also, what was that about the sellswords who left? "Only loyal to gold?" Sounds like they weren't very loyal if you were paying them and they left. Are they saying that he wasn't paying them? Then how did he ever expect them to fight?
Good point. That's more in line with what I'd expect from her just like I'd expect Cersei to threaten the guy when he turned on her. Neither had the reaction I expected.
It's fun watching her whine at him about not knowing her as if he's just an uncle when we know it's her father.
She was raising his heart rate so that the poison would move through his system faster. Still stupid. Poison always having an antidote is like Texas Hiker's expectation that every virus can be cured by throwing resources at it.
All I could think of was "gladiator rip-off." Oh, and "what is she going to do when she finds out that they are directly defying her and fighting slaves instead of free men?"
Can't believe she wasn't ready with a return threat or something. Are we supposed to accept that this was a surprise to her?
I didn't fail to empathize. I refused to delude myself about WHY I was empathizing and called it what it was: A tough decision to follow through with with emotions beyond the technical circumstances. I said so specifically last week when I said that it was the same emotions as if it were rape, but that does not make it rape.
Yes. She. Did. It's not even debatable. She never showed any sign of distress to Ramsay in the episode. Yes, she grit her teeth and made a strained face, but Ramsay never saw it. I guess Gilly raped Samwell by your logic. She heard his pain, knew about his desire to stay true to his vows, and moved on anyway. That BITCH.
They conveyed it perfectly well, but we are arguing about what happened in that episode, not what happened after. Even then, lots of deadbeats beat their women. They get charged with domestic abuse. They only get charged with rape if rape is also a factor. Domestic violence is not the same thing as rape.
Those people are idiots in more ways than that. they chose something that wasn't even rape before starting their crusade. Why do YOU agree with them?
Fair enough. We disagree about whether or not it was rape. I still have a problem with people simply deciding that "it was rape" without even considering what led to that. Every single person severely over reacting like that FIRST had to jump to the "RAPE!" conclusion, so i am addressing that too.
At the wedding, when they asked if she "takes this man." There was no threat of death for saying "no." There was simply the knowledge that she would be less able to assert herself over The North and remain home. There WAS the knowledge that she would have to consummate the marriage with intercourse that night if she said "yes." She said "yes." It was a tough pill to swallow for what she wanted, but it was what she wanted and was not forced upon her. Minutes earlier she could have asked the woman dressing her to help right away. Before that she could have told Baelish "no." Hell, in the room with Ramsay, she could have changed her mind and refused to consummate. Killing a guest in your home does not bode well in that world.
Good luck proving that in the court of law. To have an equivalent situation "in our society," there would need to be an agreement that it be consummated with intercourse (since marriage does not come with that assumption here). Let's just say it was in the prenup. That *IS* consent. She didn't say or do anything that the witness (Theon) could testify as revoking the consent given when she accepted that agreement. She never called it off. It wasn't technically rape, therefore, it wasn't legally rape.
...but GUESS WHAT? The equivalent in modern society would be making a CONTRACT that says that the marriage is not valid unless consummated and that absolutely would show that her agreement to marry constituted consent. The show has spelled it out for us multiple times: A MARRIAGE MUST BE CONSUMMATED TO BE CONFIRMED. It is expected. It is PART of taking the vows, therefore the sex on wedding night is consented to BY the vows. No one is talking about sex that happens later on. This is a fantasy world where that situation exists, but that doesn't mean it wasn't consent. You do know what "expectation" means, right? It was UNDERSTOOD. You can't just ignore that part when transplanting the scenario in the context of our society.
The story being told HERE (this episode) had progressed from the story being told THERE (the last episode). In THAT EPISODE, she had not been raped. Period. Not technically. Not legally. Not at all in any way.
It wasn't rape. As I have said before, it had all of the emotional impact of her being raped, but it that doesn't make it TECHNICALLY rape.
As far as we know it was within her expectations and that is precisely why she sucked it up and didn't speak up or undeniably revoke her consent. It's one thing to say that she might have been too intimidated, it's another thing entirely to say that she absolutely was and therefore DID revoke consent. Jsut because we don't like the guy and just because she doesn't like the guy doesn't make it any less HER CHOICE that she followed through with.
"Assaulted?" So now we are assuming that doggy-style is assault? The bruises are from another episode and we had no reason to assume that he buggered her (or that the choice of orifice changes anything).
It is there. No question. Are you even watching the same show? We have to sign a document and get it registered at City Hall or something while they have to consummate through intercourse. The show has made this very clear and even implied that a witness is somewhat normal/expected. It is why her marriage to Tyrian was nullified. She could have nullified the wedding by revoking consent. SHE FAILED TO DO THIS. She went in with the expectation of consummation which ABSOLUTELY IS PRIOR CONSENT and began voluntarily began taking her clothes off when he got rough by tearing her clothes off (which sometimes happens in rough consensual sex too). She took her clothes off for Tyrian too. It's an undeniably expected part of the ceremony. As for "buttsex," there was no way to know what orifice he was using. I assume that confirmation/consummation requires [ichinisan]vaginal intercourse[/ichinisan] and, thus, the potential for an heir, but who's to say it wasn't simply doggy style? Not sure how that changes anything.
I seem to be defending it quite easily. That's because all the facts support me. I couldn't care less about the whole "gamersgate" crap. I had no idea what it was about for almost a year until I glanced at the thread here and never came back. I don't even know if "pro-gamersgate" means you support the anti-gaming SJWs or the anti-SJW gamers. Trying to categorize me using that is misguided. #notyourshield (yes, I picked up on that from my brief visit to the thread)
I have a PROBLEM with rampant idiocy spreading unchecked. I have a problem with people attempting to shame people for correcting people. I have a problem with the Internet becoming a place where people get dumber and dumber and mire in their stupidity while pushing back against any attempt to correct them ("GRAMMAR NAZI!"). I APPRECIATE it when someone corrects me and makes me less ignorant about something. I will never be ashamed to speak out and correct people. The people who have a problem with that are the people who have a problem in my eyes. They want to revel in their own blissful ignorance and they don't like being reminded that the world judges you based on your assumptions.
Remember this?
It sounds like I'm in the right place to discuss this particular brand of idiocy. "It's rape because she made a face!" She made a face because it was a tough pill to swallow and she knew that when she consented.
...except that somehow all of the actual facts end up being on the "not rape" side of the issue.
Sure does.Rape happens in married couples as well.
Sure isn't, but violence not found until the following episode.Just because you're married doesn't mean that it is a free pass to violent sex.
Yes she did. It's not even disputable.Also she didn't actually marry of her own free will,
Nope. There was NO threat indicated when she took her vows. None.but rather at gun point.
Also, Dany nip-slip.
Guess she didn't understand that she unleashed a true believer; not someone that could be bought.
At the very least, maybe king dickless will now get to murdering some cult assholes.
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just because she's consenting to have sex, that doesn't give Ramsay the right to have his way with her any way he pleases, you can revoke consent at any moment and that moment came very quickly with Ramsay
You mean her brother Jaime?
How about leaving out the stupid poison thing all together? Save us from all those repeated shots with the same exact camera passes over and over and over. As hot as she was, that whole scene was amateur hour again.
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was.
"Do I have to ask twice? I don't like asking twice."
-Ramsey after demanding that Sansa disrobe, and she initially didn't. Not my imagination.
Jaime on the other hand, bought into Cersei's manipulation easily.
the gift
winterfell, pt1
sansa is in pretty rough shape, clearly being abused to hell by ramsay. theon finds ramsay sitting in the broken tower - i saw that coming a mile away.
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I was under the distinct impression that Ramsay was in his room and Theon betrayed Sansa by taking the candle to Ramsay. Did I miss some dialogue when Ramsay shows Sansa and Theon the flayed & dead woman where he said he knew about the broken tower sign that Sansa could place?
I was under the distinct impression that Ramsay was in his room and Theon betrayed Sansa by taking the candle to Ramsay. Did I miss some dialogue when Ramsay shows Sansa and Theon the flayed & dead woman where he said he knew about the broken tower sign that Sansa could place?
My interpretation was he was going to help Sansa and didn't know Ramsay was going to be in the tower. Then when he found Ramsay there he improvised. Would also fit Ramsay's MO of constantly testing Theon.
no, you suck as a human being because it was rape and you're failing to empathize with that fact
Either you're sociopathic, trolling, in massive denial, or are just straight up ignorant, maybe a combination of any or some others I might be missing. Sansa never consented to Ramsay's sexual advances, she never needed to revoke any consent because she never gave it. Then her cries of obvious trauma/distress would be enough to convince any jury with any shred of human empathy. Even the dehumanized Reek could see what you fail to.
no, she was raped in that scene and apparently many times after, at best the writers simply failed to convey that fact for people as apparently dense as you
the people calling for boycotts are likely hypocrites for failing to do the same to the crimes enacted upon Theon that are just as bad if not worse, or any of the other horrible things that happen to many other characters in this universe. If anything Sansa hasn't suffered nearly as bad as those who have had it the worst. Heck, this episode (7) is an excellent example of that fact when Theon/Reek shares that what Sansa is experiencing can get much worse...
wrong, and now it seems possible that your position might simply be one of severe overreaction. I'm not screaming "RAPE!", I'm simply acknowledging that she got raped. I have no more problem with Sansa getting raped than I had with Theon being brutally tortured.
again, it is entirely possible to consent to rape. If someone presents you with the option of death or sex, not choosing death is not the same as consenting to lawful sex.
except it was rape, and would legally be rape in our society, although not most of Westeros (although some more civilized characters such as Tyrion would see it for what it really was)
yes it would. In modern society, husbands and wives do not owe each other sex. That simple fact is what people are empathizing with, and some are simply too fragile to be watching Game of Thrones.
this is where you fail to recognize the story being told here, I can only hope its because you are dense and/or in denial to try and protect yourself from imagining the horror of the truth; Sansa was raped, plain and simple, shit happens in this horrible world of Westeros, and Theon is right, it could be worse.
this is where I think you're pretty badly screwed up, because now it seems like you're in denial that it was rape simply because you're upset with the fact that other people are irrationally upset with it. I'm not upset with it in that way, not at all. Does it suck that Sansa got raped? Sure, I wasn't enjoying that scene, but it happened, and for better or worse it will affect her character moving forward. Sometimes characters just up and die without doing something great like we expect them to (Ned, Renly, Robb, Oberyn...) Sansa getting raped is something I find far less objectionable than Catelyn getting her throat slit after watching her son get murdered right after his pregnant wife (and every other man/woman supporting house Stark)
see its hard to get a read on you, maybe you're just caught up in the semantics of legality, when the simple fact of the matter is that it was and has been made crystal clear that Sansa was not ok with Ramsay's advances, and any level of consent she had previously given or implied no longer applied.
Once again, she didn't know she was going to be assaulted on her wedding night. Awkward/uncomfortable sex is not the same thing as sexual assault.
not consenting to Ramsay's sexual commands/advances when the time came is all that is necessary for it to be rape when Ramsay then proceeded to take her without that consent. Sex isn't something you sit down and agree to before having it and then there is no take-backs after that "handshake", if you're thrown a curve ball like surprise buttsex...oh but you already "consented", your ass is mine now!