Phoenix86
Lifer
- May 21, 2003
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The fact this exists only proves my point it was confusing.
He said "Queen". I think you can assume that he is aware that she is no longer the queen (hasn't been since at least when Joffrey took the throne). And it's just subtle enough to make people question/suspect some sort of cliffhanger. He's taking Tyrion to Mereen to see Dany.
In the North we have:
Jon+Nights Watch.
Will they leave the wall to help the realm as a whole? Did the "shield that defends the realm" speech impact policy? I can't see them staying at the wall for long. Jon knows what's coming if he stays and he knows he can't hold them back.
The fact this exists only proves my point it was confusing.
I struggle to believe Jon would head South. He needs to rebuild the defenses, not just at Castle Black, but along the Wall, to make sure that the White Walkers don't have easy access to the South. He's not going to abandon that responsibility just for revenge.
It was more about his admission of the cowardice of which he had been accused (by Samwell at the election). Jon realized that he could not show mercy once he admitted that or else he would encourage cowardice (people would just run then beg mercy).
Nope, it just proves people don't pay attention to details.
I struggle to believe Jon would head South. He needs to rebuild the defenses, not just at Castle Black, but along the Wall, to make sure that the White Walkers don't have easy access to the South. He's not going to abandon that responsibility just for revenge.
It helped that Janos was Jon's enemy. Being insubordinate in front of everyone would only open the ranks for questioning. Jon was able to show he had what it takes to doll out he justice required to be Lord Commander. He also impressed Alister (IMO), but not being petty and making him dig the shit pit. He, instead, named him to a position he was worthy of.
To be fair, my wife and I were slightly confused. With the first cut, I was pretty sure it was Winterfell (and it was), but then they cut back to Littlefinger and Sansa at Moat Cailin, so I was like, "oh, I guess they're at Moat Cailin then..." while wondering why on Earth they needed to rebuild it. It doesn't help that the establishing shots show off grey castles in drab settings with shitty weather; in stills, the differences are obvious, but with fairly rapid cuts and two interweaving timelines, it can certainly be confusing.
Does he even know the dragon glass is the way to kill them? I guess it's safe to assume he does, but they only had a few pieces of it, not enough to arm the Night's Watch.
I don't think anyone knows that, even Sam. You'd think they'd have put two and two together by now, but Sam immediately dropped the dagger when he killed the White Walker, and in his subsequent tellings of the story, he seems to omit the crucial detail of "dragon glass killed it straight away." If they knew, they should haul ass back North of the Wall and collect as much of it as they can find.
The real issue is that they skipped the entire travel from Moat Cailin to Winterfell, which is no quick stroll. In the time it took Brienne to give a speech to Pod, LF and Sansa had traveled a few hundred leagues. Had they simply shown them traveling or had her say "home at last" or some shit, there would be no issue.
If I recall, didn't Sam say something about it being of import in the old books?
I don't think anyone knows that, even Sam. You'd think they'd have put two and two together by now, but Sam immediately dropped the dagger when he killed the White Walker, and in his subsequent tellings of the story, he seems to omit the crucial detail of "dragon glass killed it straight away." If they knew, they should haul ass back North of the Wall and collect as much of it as they can find.
From the moment the guy started with the insubordination, I recalled the first episode where Jon watches as Ned executes the deserted Night's Watch member. Somehow, I knew exactly how the scene would go with the mercy plea, the admission of cowardice, the "will Jon do it?" suspense, and the decapitation. It just seemed right that he would do exactly the same thing Ned Stark would do.4) Jon Snow is a badass, though I half expected him to let the guy live. I guess nobody will second guess his orders anymore. I still wonder what Stannis is up to, I can't imagine he's going to leave like he said and just let Jon Snow be.
The important thing is that Tyrion doesn't know which "queen" Jorah is referring to...so he would probably be shitting himself.5) Tyrion I'm guessing the "queen" Jorah referred to was Danaerys, and he's betting on that putting him back in her good graces. Doubt it. He's making a mistake. I'm looking forward to see what Danaerys will do with Tyrion, hopefully he works his way into being her advisor. That'd be awesome. If Jorah takes him to Cersei instead, I'll be not only surprised, but also disappointed.
I also thought they ended up in Moat Cailin... gonna have to rewatch that.
Weird editing.
I think Little Finger just wants Sansa in place so he could do his scheme...she doesnt need to actually kill one or more Boltons. If the Boltons have an "accident", she will legitimately be in control of the North and he will legitimately have the Vale. Although I think this is all in vain since Stannis is on his way there. If there is any justice in this universe, Theon will somehow kill Ramsay...after a few weeks of torture.
I'm almost beginning to wonder if Theon is smarter or at least more sane than everyone around him still thinks he is. It almost seems like he's listening in on all the conversations and playing the fool, not content just to kill the guy that sliced his penis but taking it all in and carefully waiting for just the right moment to raze the whole bolton power base down in revenge or to prove himself to sister and daddy once and for all. I dunno. It just reminds me of when Snow thought being an attendant was the worse thing ever, when in truth he was always surrounded by the most powerful men and listening in on all the plans and seeing the system in action.