It was pretty obvious. 100% of Oberyn's screen time involved him stating, at least one, he wanted to avenge his sister and her children. Everyone knew the Mountain was "Tywin's mad dog", and a likely candidate in the absence of any real fighters for the Crown. Cersei wouldn't name Jaime, and Barristan is gone (and those are pretty much the last of the "best swordsmen' around, as Ned is dead). The Hound already establish that outside of little girls, Trant is worthless. And, if the Mountain was named, Oberyn has been crying about vengeance long enough, why wouldn't you expect him to step forward, even if he dislikes Tyrion (and all Lannisters). This gives him a legal, and public, way to fight the Mountain.
I think that description is from the book. They didn't really show a good example of it.
Be honest, if you saw that actor coming at you in real life, you'd run away crying.
Right and I brought all of that up a couple of pages back, but to say it was 100% obvious that it would be him, particularly given the fact Tyrion went to the other two very obvious candidates, Jaime and Bronn, first, is absurd. The other two were just as viable for those of us who did not have any further knowledge of the outcome.
You can only say it was 100% obvious because you already knew the outcome.
KT
As much as I hate that little twerp kid I'd much rather see that pedophile snake bastard die a horrible death.
Sansa should report the murder of the Lady to the lords of the Vale
It was 100% obvious it wouldn't be Jaime. It was already known Jaime couldn't fight. He even admitted this to Tyrion before he started his training with Bronn. The only plausible choice was Bronn, and even then, Oberyn would volunteer to fight the Mountain, regardless of Tyrion's "choice". Surely, you saw this coming.
Uh, last I checked Sansa is past puberty; the actress who plays her certainly is. Pedophilia not found.
And Baelisch would simply deny it.
Right and I brought all of that up a couple of pages back, but to say it was 100% obvious that it would be him, particularly given the fact Tyrion went to the other two very obvious candidates, Jaime and Bronn, first, is absurd. The other two were just as viable for those of us who did not have any further knowledge of the outcome.
You can only say it was 100% obvious because you already knew the outcome.
Not talking about the actual acress, but I thought Sansa was 15 or 16 in the show. While Baelish is like 45-50?
You dont call that pedophilia?!
A pedophile is a person who has a sustained sexual orientation toward children, generally aged 13 or younger.
Peter Dinklage should win lots awards for this season. His portrail of his wounds from familial warfare the last few episodes has been amazing.
It was 100% obvious it wouldn't be Jaime. It was already known Jaime couldn't fight. He even admitted this to Tyrion before he started his training with Bronn. The only plausible choice was Bronn, and even then, Oberyn would volunteer to fight the Mountain, regardless of Tyrion's "choice". Surely, you saw this coming.
This!
The show clearly wanted us to think Jaime/Bronn first (which most of us did), which in last night's show clearly that's how the story was told. And then we were shown desperate Tyrion out of ideas, not knowing who else would he ask to be his champion (and have a reasonable chance to win against The Mountain). And *then* comes Oberyn, seemingly out of nowhere, offering to be his champion.
I can't believe the book readers couldn't see/admit this, but based on the TV show, Oberyn's offering to champion for Tyrion on last night's episode is supposed to be a surprise! for the show watchers. Otherwise they wouldn't have built up the scenes like that: Jaime --> sucks at fighting now, Bronn --> sorry bro, I like you but I like myself better. Desperate Tyrion suddenly out of options, and here comes Oberyn. And no, he didn't just offer to become a champion to avenge his sister, he was shown to actually have a sympathy towards Tyrion, otherwise why would they even bother to have him tell the story when they first met, shortly after Tyrion was born ("sure, his head was a little big, and his limbs were a little short, but no claws, no red eyes, and no tail. that was not a monster").
Added: Btw, I just checked and the episode summary for last night's episode includes: "Tyrion gains an unlikely ally". Show watchers are supposed to be surprised as the ally wasn't supposed to be obvious, much less 100%.
I thought Tyrion would use Jaime based purely on the fact that Tywin wouldn't want to see his heir die, and would be forced to send some scrub up against Jaime. The mountain/oberyn thing is just too convenient for Tyrion. They could have picked any other highly-skilled swordsman for the job, but they pick the 1 guy in the world that Oberyn wants revenge on. It doesn't make sense.
I thought Tyrion would use Jaime based purely on the fact that Tywin wouldn't want to see his heir die, and would be forced to send some scrub up against Jaime. The mountain/oberyn thing is just too convenient for Tyrion. They could have picked any other highly-skilled swordsman for the job, but they pick the 1 guy in the world that Oberyn wants revenge on. It doesn't make sense.
Brienne and the Mountain would have been a cool fight. She was worse than Jaime, better than Loras, but now has Valyrian steel, any parry would slice right through the Mountain's sword.
I don't know if Brienne was worse than Jaime. The only fight they had, she had the upper hand, but Jaime did have his hands bound.
This!
The show clearly wanted us to think Jaime/Bronn first (which most of us did)
Please do name all these other "highly skilled swordsmen" they have lying around. The best swordsmen are dead, one handed, or gone. The only person besides the Mountain known to be a good fighter is Loras, who conveniently is a Tyrell and whose family would never allow him to fight.
Is Loras a skilled swordsman other than the obvious double entendre of his dalliance with Renly? He's known as being an excellent jouster, but the only time I recall seeing him with a sword in hand he got his ass kicked by Brienne. The renowned sword fighters are Jaime, Barristan Selmy, Ned, Gregor, Sandor and it can be assumed Bronn is in that league. Loras is never mentioned alongside those guys.
Right and I brought all of that up a couple of pages back, but to say it was 100% obvious that it would be him, particularly given the fact Tyrion went to the other two very obvious candidates, Jaime and Bronn, first, is absurd. The other two were just as viable for those of us who did not have any further knowledge of the outcome.
You can only say it was 100% obvious because you already knew the outcome.
KT
Yeah... and? That would be what the training was supposed to fix. They subsequently showed his skills improving as he trained with Bronn. We didn't know until this episode that the training had been ineffective.