Game of Thrones - TV Series (NO BOOK SPOILERS)

[makken]

Several episodes ago (IIRC, the one where Renly was killed) Davos convinced Stannis to leave Melisandre behind when they attacked King's Landing, because he didn't want people believing that he only won the throne by sorcery.

Also (IMO) Stannis isn't that enthusiastic about Melisandre and her Red God. He had to use her before because there was no other choice due to his limited support. But, after picking most of Renly's supporters I think he'd prefer to do things himself.

Ah, I forgot about that scene. I still find it odd that Stannis would agree to it, considering no one else knew of her involvement other than Davos. I take it Davos is dead now?

If you recall the story of how the Hound got his scars (this was in the middle of season 1, IIRC Littlefinger was telling it to Sansa), his brother Gregor aka the Mountain shoved his face in a fire when he was a child. He's absolutely terrified of fire, and fighting in the middle of the river burning with wildfire (when was much, much worse in the books) was enough to break him.

Edit: Damn, too slow.

He seemed to have no issue charging out of the gate even after the wildfire attack. It wasn't until some burning guy charged him that he lost all composure. I guess I just wasn't convinced that fire was the issue since they showed him fighting in and around it for quite a while before losing it.

 

[nageov3t]

Joffrey is a coward, a sadist and would be the death of the kingdom if allowed to rule. He would have sparked a rebellion even faster than Mad Aerys did and that would be the end of the Lannister line. By getting rid of him the hope was that Tommen with a strong regent or Hand like Tywin's brother Kevan could hold the kingdom together.

that would be a reason for Tywin or Tyrion to assassinate Joffrey, but not Stanis.

6 more months of Joffrey at the helm and the citizens themselves will throw the gates open for Stannis.

 

[Merad]

Ah, I forgot about that scene. I still find it odd that Stannis would agree to it, considering no one else knew of her involvement other than Davos. I take it Davos is dead now?

Davos is the only one who knew for sure. But there were many rumors. And,

Spoiler

rumors of Davos' demise have been greatly exaggerated

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He seemed to have no issue charging out of the gate even after the wildfire attack. It wasn't until some burning guy charged him that he lost all composure. I guess I just wasn't convinced that fire was the issue since they showed him fighting in and around it for quite a while before losing it.

Like I said, it's really just a limitation of the show's time & budget. In the book, the city's defenders are throwing wildfire from catapults out at the ships and into the battlefield. The Hound does actually lead 3 attacks out into the battlefield & fire before he breaks, and he's exhausted & wounded on top of everything else.

They had to show him breaking and leaving, because he'll be significant next season outside of King's Landing.

 

[BladeVenom]

Next weeks episode is going to be 70 minutes .

 

[alkemyst]

it's fucking sad people are making GoT political. In monarchy government, the King fucking ruled despite religion and all that other drama. Drink, fuck, sleep and make proclamations.

Deny that, and he'd just put his sword through you.

 

[alkemyst]

Next weeks episode is going to be 70 minutes .

season finale I was hoping 120 minutes.

 

[PrayForDeath]

have we seen the Mountain yet in the show?

Yes, you see him in many scenes with Tywin. However, he has been recasted, and I much prefer season 1's actor (the one who chopped of the horse's head)

 

[jman19]

it's fucking sad people are making GoT political. In monarchy government, the King fucking ruled despite religion and all that other drama. Drink, fuck, sleep and make proclamations.

Deny that, and he'd just put his sword through you.

You obviously haven't read the books.

 

[JEDI]

when did the gay knight align his tribe to the Lannisters?

i know Littlefinger was talking to Reny's wife (gay Knights sister) in becoming THE queen. but since she's a girl, she has no power in committing the tribe.

was it shown in the show about the alliance?

 

[alkemyst]

You obviously haven't read the books.

lol bro..GoT politics <> ours.

good game though.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

that would be a reason for Tywin or Tyrion to assassinate Joffrey, but not Stanis.

6 more months of Joffrey at the helm and the citizens themselves will throw the gates open for Stannis.

Stannis doesn't strike me as a person to use poison, Tyrion didn't do it as the books point out him noticing the evidence and destroying it. Sansa could have done it which would make the motive revenge. Still, I'm working under the assumption that it was Tywin, Littlefinger, Varys or someone else inside, possibly even Cersei. The Martells would be the next most logical choice as they had opportunity and would also want to see Joffrey dead so that Margaery could marry and dominate Tommen rather then get beat up and likely killed by Joffrey.

 

[JEDI]

When did the gay knight's tribe align w/the Lannisters?

last i saw was Littlefinger talking to King Reny's wife (gay Knights sister). She wanted to be THE queen but since she's a girl, i assume she cant commit the tribe to the Lannister cause.

So when was the alliance made? was it shown on TV?

 

[BladeVenom]

When did the gay knight's tribe align w/the Lannisters?

Recently.

last i saw was Littlefinger talking to King Reny's wife (gay Knights sister). She wanted to be THE queen but since she's a girl, i assume she cant commit the tribe to the Lannister cause.

Perhaps he also talked to her father.

So when was the alliance made? was it shown on TV?

Littlefinger was trying to make an alliance. I think they'll give you more of the details next week. They wanted Loras and the Tyrells to be a little bit of a surprise.

 

[Howard]

Stannis doesn't strike me as a person to use poison

Wouldn't you say shadow creatures are just as bad?

 

[OVerLoRDI]

Great episode last night. Can't wait for finale

 

[jman19]

lol bro..GoT politics <> ours.

good game though.

Yes I'm aware. When did I say otherwise?

The story is very political in nature.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

Wouldn't you say shadow creatures are just as bad?

I wasn't saying he wouldn't use poison as a judgement on his morality, simply as a matter of style. He's the type to either want to look a man in the eye and run a sword through his guts or use the power of his new god. The shadow was in character, it's an extension of the magic of the Red God to whom he is fully committed. The poison is something else. Stannis would happily assassinate a child to further his ambitions, he just wouldn't use poison to do it.

 

[PrayForDeath]

When did the gay knight's tribe align w/the Lannisters?

last i saw was Littlefinger talking to King Reny's wife (gay Knights sister). She wanted to be THE queen but since she's a girl, i assume she cant commit the tribe to the Lannister cause.

So when was the alliance made? was it shown on TV?

There was a scene in harrenhal where Littlefinger proposed the alliance to Tywin. (and nearly recognized Arya)

 

[JEDI]

whos that girl that sat naked on Tyrion's mercenary's lap in the beginning of the episode? i dont recall seeing her b4, altho the only reoccuring whore I remember is Ro and Tyrion's pornstar .

 

[alkemyst]

Yes I'm aware. When did I say otherwise?

The story is very political in nature.

You tried to correct me on this?!?

don't be an idiot.

 

[nageov3t]

whos that girl that sat naked on Tyrion's mercenary's lap in the beginning of the episode? i dont recall seeing her b4, altho the only reoccuring whore I remember is Ro and Tyrion's pornstar .

Random Whore Extra #451?

 

[jman19]

You tried to correct me on this?!?

don't be an idiot.

I'm not even sure what you're getting in to such a hissy fit about. Stop douching up every thread you post in.

 

[alkemyst]

whos that girl that sat naked on Tyrion's mercenary's lap in the beginning of the episode? i dont recall seeing her b4, altho the only reoccuring whore I remember is Ro and Tyrion's pornstar .

She's just a prostitute. He is Bronn.

You seem really challenged following this series.

 

[alkemyst]

I'm not even sure what you're getting in to such a hissy fit about. Stop douching up every thread you post in.

wow bro, you correct me...I reply what I meant, you tell me to relax, I reply and you do it again.

Fuck off. It's people like you that douche up threads when say I did it.

dumbass.

 

[alkemyst]

I wasn't saying he wouldn't use poison as a judgement on his morality, simply as a matter of style. He's the type to either want to look a man in the eye and run a sword through his guts or use the power of his new god. The shadow was in character, it's an extension of the magic of the Lord of Light to whom he is fully committed. The poison is something else. Stannis would happily assassinate a child to further his ambitions, he just wouldn't use poison to do it.

FTFY, Red God is more from the book...still correct, but most probably haven't read them.

I haven't read them yet, but have read up on the story.