Gooberlx2
Lifer
- May 4, 2001
- 15,381
- 6
- 91
- Gendry is the only other known person with Baratheon blood still left alive at this point, and he has joined the Brotherhood without Banners that worship the LoL.
Gendry is out rowing a boat somewhere.
- Gendry is the only other known person with Baratheon blood still left alive at this point, and he has joined the Brotherhood without Banners that worship the LoL.
Gendry is out rowing a boat somewhere.
Letting Cersei go back made for the good tv of the march, but made no sense. He had to know he signed his death warrant for no reason.
The episode's title was "Mother's Mercy". I suspect because that act might be pivotal to the next season as she plays an important rule and takes revenge.
I'm trying to figure out if this can be discussed openly in this thread or not.
Seems like we need a 3rd thread for people who have both read and watched and just don't care about the blurred lines anymore.
Letting Cersei go back made for the good tv of the march, but made no sense. He had to know he signed his death warrant for no reason.
Yeah i'm wondering why the king just doesn't kill all the sparrows
It's Drogo's ring. They would probably enslave or kill her if they found her with it. (This was also verified by Benioff/Wiess in the after show bit about that scene)
The Dothraki are basically one large hoard, right? So that should be the riders that abandoned Drogo's corpse and Daeanaazrys way back in season 1?
I guess that dragon took her for bit of a ride, as I recall the Dothraki abandoned the plan to take ships across the sea when Drogo died; so no reason they should be on the same continent as Mereen.
Gendry is out rowing a boat somewhere.
It just occurred to me as I flipped over to HBO just a minute ago and it was on the scene where Sam's about to get some...
Remember when Shae commented on Tyrion's story of marriage "a girl who was almost raped doesn't invite another man into her bed two hours later"?
Apparently some do.
What was that item Daenerys dropped when the dothraki were coming?
Was that a ring her dothraki husband gave her or something?
I predict that somehow sir friendzone and the merc will find that ring and track her down.
i'm done with this show.
i don't give a rat's ass about any of the characters.
I found it odd that Tommen wasn't there to receive his mom. Guess that's a scene for next season.
So her whole Stannis thing is that the Lord of Light favors king's blood, right?
Here's my theory:
The kings of Westeros have always been Targaryen, despite the latest Targaryen (the Mad King) being crazy and getting overthrown by Robert Baratheon.
King's blood is thus most likely Targaryen blood, not Baratheon.
The Targaryens are also the keepers of the dragons that breathe fire. It's only logical that the Lord of Light and the dragons are aligned.
Since the removal of the Targaryens and the coming of the White Walkers (the latter probably mobilizing massively after centuries of hiding because they now sense that the throne of Fire/Light/Targaryens is weak), the Lord of Light (LoL) probably wants to bring the Targaryens back into power.
But first the Baratheons need to be removed since they feel they have the true claim to the throne. So the LoL uses Stannis as a pawn to get the Baratheons to die out in a dose of epic irony.
- Robert Baratheon dies.
- Stannis Baratheon kills his own brother, Renly Baratheon, at the urging of Melissandra.
- Stannis Baratheon kills his own daughter, at the urging of Melissandra.
- Stannis Baratheon "kills himself" by sending his woefully-outnumbered and unprepared army into a suicide mission. Stannis is a very experienced war commander but the fact that he still sent his men into such an obviously-hopeless situation shows just how badly he got played by the LoL - either in belief of the "prophecy" (which was fabricated by the LoL) or inflation of his own ego. The most delicious irony is that he doesn't die by the hand of a Bolton (even though two tried and failed), but by that of Brienne, who kills him to avenge the death of... drumroll... Renly, his own brother which he had killed.
- Melissandra senses king's blood in John Snow, but he dies and all his blood is spilled, so he might have been a Baratheon, possibly one of Robert Baratheon's bastard sons who he entrusted to Eddard Stark's care.
- Gendry is the only other known person with Baratheon blood still left alive at this point, and he has joined the Brotherhood without Banners that worship the LoL.
So now that Baratheon blood - and more importantly - Baratheon forces, are all wiped out, there is a clearing for a Targaryen with fire-breathing dragons to come back in and reclaim the throne. The LoL played Stannis and used the zealot Melissandra to do so.
Gendry is still out there but he's a bastard, has no forces under him, and has a tenuous claim to the throne. Despite this, the LoL still keeps him close since he's now joined with a group that worships the LoL ("keep your enemies closer...")
And the Lord of Light just happens to be "LoL".
So her whole Stannis thing is that the Lord of Light favors king's blood, right?
Here's my theory:
The kings of Westeros have always been Targaryen, despite the latest Targaryen (the Mad King) being crazy and getting overthrown by Robert Baratheon.
King's blood is thus most likely Targaryen blood, not Baratheon.
The Targaryens are also the keepers of the dragons that breathe fire. It's only logical that the Lord of Light and the dragons are aligned.
Since the removal of the Targaryens and the coming of the White Walkers (the latter probably mobilizing massively after centuries of hiding because they now sense that the throne of Fire/Light/Targaryens is weak), the Lord of Light (LoL) probably wants to bring the Targaryens back into power.
But first the Baratheons need to be removed since they feel they have the true claim to the throne. So the LoL uses Stannis as a pawn to get the Baratheons to die out in a dose of epic irony.
- Robert Baratheon dies.
- Stannis Baratheon kills his own brother, Renly Baratheon, at the urging of Melissandra.
- Stannis Baratheon kills his own daughter, at the urging of Melissandra.
- Stannis Baratheon "kills himself" by sending his woefully-outnumbered and unprepared army into a suicide mission. Stannis is a very experienced war commander but the fact that he still sent his men into such an obviously-hopeless situation shows just how badly he got played by the LoL - either in belief of the "prophecy" (which was fabricated by the LoL) or inflation of his own ego. The most delicious irony is that he doesn't die by the hand of a Bolton (even though two tried and failed), but by that of Brienne, who kills him to avenge the death of... drumroll... Renly, his own brother which he had killed.
- Melissandra senses king's blood in John Snow, but he dies and all his blood is spilled, so he might have been a Baratheon, possibly one of Robert Baratheon's bastard sons who he entrusted to Eddard Stark's care.
- Gendry is the only other known person with Baratheon blood still left alive at this point, and he has joined the Brotherhood without Banners that worship the LoL.
So now that Baratheon blood - and more importantly - Baratheon forces, are all wiped out, there is a clearing for a Targaryen with fire-breathing dragons to come back in and reclaim the throne. The LoL played Stannis and used the zealot Melissandra to do so.
Gendry is still out there but he's a bastard, has no forces under him, and has a tenuous claim to the throne. Despite this, the LoL still keeps him close since he's now joined with a group that worships the LoL ("keep your enemies closer...")
And the Lord of Light just happens to be "LoL".
Letting Cersei go back made for the good tv of the march, but made no sense. He had to know he signed his death warrant for no reason.
On another note, Jamie should have sailed back and had the king execute his sister in law for her treason. His son would certainly support the revenge and it'd help prevent a pointless war she wanted.
That makes more sense that taking him hostage or killing him and going to war and giving her what she wanted.
im surprised the high sparrow let her out.That episode just had too many things to tell and wrap-up (or intentionally left as cliffhangers) for one hour, which is why everything seems extremely rushed and fast paced. Except maybe for Cersei's walk of shame, which is about 3 minutes too long, give or take. I understand that they wanted to emphasize the magnitude of this humiliation for Cersei, but we all knew that even after the first 20 seconds of her being paraded around naked with spit and crap being thrown her way, that as soon as she gets back she'll make every single one of them pay for this. She's going to go berserk. It's not going to be pretty.
im surprised the high sparrow let her out.
he has to expect revenge from her.
I wonder what his counter plan is?
cant be as stupid as die a martyr?
Jaime hasn't seen Doran like we have so he's not going to trust him as much. There's a risk that he's complicit in Myrcella's assassination in some way and going back would be very dangerous if this were true. Even if he isn't there's a risk of the Sand Snakes watching them and waiting for their return.
It has been pointed out that he is a True Believer. It is possible that he expects that the Gods will protect him.
