ayeWhat was that item Daenerys dropped when the dothraki were coming?
Was that a ring her dothraki husband gave her or something?
I wonder if she's going to use the Dothraki to help her rule. The thing about the Unsullied is that they're great soldiers, but they're not good fighters. If you replaced those Unsullied from that corridor fight with the Dothraki, I think the result would've been a lot different.
except the writers wanted everyone in that corridor to get fucked up, or else they wouldn't have done it. They could have put the Mountain, the Hound, Jaime, Loras, Brienne, and all the other best fighters in that corridor and they would have made sure to fuck them upI wonder if she's going to use the Dothraki to help her rule. The thing about the Unsullied is that they're great soldiers, but they're not good fighters. If you replaced those Unsullied from that corridor fight with the Dothraki, I think the result would've been a lot different.
yup, but have to remember that most of the Dothraki abandoned her after Drogo was poisoned and became inept, and very few remained after he died, whether or not them finding her is a good or bad thing is yet to be seenare they dothraki?
since the show hasn't shied away from making sure certain characters are dead (generally their head comes off or is crushed/mutilated), I'm going to go ahead and say Brienne had second thoughts and thus they cut away on purpose before she lands the blow. I think Brienne wants revenge but I also think her loyalty is utmost and thus her duty to Sansa preempts that, I'm guessing she thinks she can use Stannis to help her somehow, although that does seem pretty out of place now that his army appears to be completely destroyedis stannis really dead?
King's blood. He has it.I was wondering if the end would be Jon opening his eyes as a wight. I mean, there is a certain character left out from the books who could be merged with that sort of situation. Although, my first guess was just that Melisandre was last shown to be at Castle Black (probably not a good place given Gilly's experiences), and she can always give the ol' resurrection thing a shot. We know that the other guy is the who who is capable of it, but maybe it'll work on someone like Jon... for... reasons?
Was there a shot that shows the ship wasn't very far away?The dorne scene was just stupid. Gee, lets poison the girl so she dies 500 yards from the dock. What could possibly go wrong. No one will suspect a thing.
She wants a war, and her King wasn't going to start it. So now she's forced the Lannisters to declare it. She wants it to be obvious it was her and not some random disease or sickness, and she's so obsessed I'm not sure that she cares if she dies.The dorne scene was just stupid. Gee, lets poison the girl so she dies 500 yards from the dock. What could possibly go wrong. No one will suspect a thing.
From the book lore, the Unsullied are famous for holding off a massive Dothraki attack a couple hundred years ago, about 3000 of them held off 10,000 Dothraki if I recall, despite taking something like 80% losses. The defeated Kahl was so impressed he actually had his men ride in front of their ranks and cut off their pony tails out of respect.except the writers wanted everyone in that corridor to get fucked up, or else they wouldn't have done it. They could have put the Mountain, the Hound, Jaime, Loras, Brienne, and all the other best fighters in that corridor and they would have made sure to fuck them up
Unsullied are unparalleled foot soldiers, I'd put my money on them vs. Dothraki on foot, its on horseback where Dothraki are to be feared, the Mongols of GRRM's universe. They'd be far more useful for destroying armies caught out in the field (like what happened to Stannis' army), harassing supply lines, etc.
And how would you handle that situation? Grey Worm is basically the Chief of Staff of the Army and he was wounded. Tyrion and Grey Worm's girlfriend are cabinet members. Jorah and Daario are just Secret Service agents. The arrangement they made makes perfect since.I enjoyed that ep way better than most of this season. There were a few things I didn't see coming, likeThe only thing I really didn't like was the whole Tyrion and crew debating about who's going to go get the queen. That was some really stupid stuff that reeked of being written by TV people. The idea that her Unsullied and Tyrion were the only people that could run the city was some TV we have actors and need roles for them writing. Such a let down from what I would expect from this show.Stannis going out or Jon dying.
Perhaps we watched different suicidal jumps?well only good person left in the show is Sansa
Melissandre was there when one of Stannis' men told him that half of his men abandoned him and took the horses, right after the snowmelt scene where Stannis brushes her off. The reaction on her face turned from confident to that of surprise and then defeat when she heard the news.I have two questions though that I haven't seen anyone discussing in sufficient importance/detail (IMO):
1) Why does Melissandre suddenly abandon Stannis? The last thing she says to him is more prophecy of him killing/burning Boltons and taking Winterfell. And thats after the big thaw she brings via sacrifice. Stannis dusts her off, clearly upset still over his daughter... and she leaves?? That makes her seem like a butthurt teenager. Then she sulks when she enters Castle Black? That isn't like her either. She is extremely showy and domineering it her religious certainty. I don't know what happened there but I'm not buying it. Poor presentation whatever the reasons.
right, in a pitched battle I would place my bet on the Unsullied over the Dothraki as well, but that's arguably a waste of the Dothraki's strengths.From the book lore, the Unsullied are famous for holding off a massive Dothraki attack a couple hundred years ago, about 3000 of them held off 10,000 Dothraki if I recall, despite taking something like 80% losses. The defeated Kahl was so impressed he actually had his men ride in front of their ranks and cut off their pony tails out of respect.
The age-old solution to cavalry is pikemen, and the unsullied are amazing pikemen.
I bought it. I interpreted it as her being horrified at what appears to be her "misreading the flames", and that she reinterpreted some other meaning that lead to her to abandon Stannis and return to Castle Black1) Why does Melissandre suddenly abandon Stannis? The last thing she says to him is more prophecy of him killing/burning Boltons and taking Winterfell. And thats after the big thaw she brings via sacrifice. Stannis dusts her off, clearly upset still over his daughter... and she leaves?? That makes her seem like a butthurt teenager. Then she sulks when she enters Castle Black? That isn't like her either. She is extremely showy and domineering it her religious certainty. I don't know what happened there but I'm not buying it. Poor presentation whatever the reasons.
I agree, I think this is just another lazy handling of the dire wolves in the show. The book wolves make a lot more sense.2) Where the hell was Ghost when Jon was attacked? Let's be clear here that the show went to specific pains just a couple of weeks ago to show that Ghost's spidey sense went off in time to save Sam & Gilly, but he was unaware of danger to Jon in even more open and obvious area of the same place? The same place Ghost had intervened with the wight that tried to attack Mormont? Also remember Robb's wolf freaking out at the Red Wedding (where he was caged). Poor, poor job of continuity by the show runners. They have never written the Dire Wolves well into the show, and this is another example. FWIW, as depicted on the show, Ghost would have made a difference for Jon, possibly even saving him.
Arya was not yet a Faceless person when she used one of the faces. The Faceless Man says before she loses her sight that to someone who is not Faceless, the faces are poison.Why did Arya lose her sight? BTW, Her killing scene was awesome. Made my wife gasp.
What about Sansa and Reek, what did they jump into? That was a good 50' drop, did they live?
The Mountain.By the way, did everyone pick up on who that was carrying cersei? Felt like it should have been obvious, but it didn't trigger much response.
So her whole Stannis thing is that the Lord of Light favors king's blood, right?I bought it. I interpreted it as her being horrified at what appears to be her "misreading the flames", and that she reinterpreted some other meaning that lead to her to abandon Stannis and return to Castle Black
Shadows don't need king's blood to be created. They just need the blood and the life-energy of the person who wanted it created. That's why Melissandra doesn't create a ton of shadow babies because she tells Stannis that doing so would drain Stannis' life force. The whole king's blood thing is a complete mis-direction. Melissandra convinces everyone, even herself, that king's blood is the key to victory. But king's blood turns out to be the key to the downfall of the entire bloodline, as the LoL intended.That's a fun theory, but whose blood was used to make the shadow that killed Renly? That was most certainly blood magic.
One last rant from me, hopefully, for this morning. Doesn't involve anyone on here:
I had to explain to neighbors this week that The Wall wasn't built to keep the Wildlings out. So much for one of GRRMs best writing devices - the very real world distortion of history over time.
I cannot decide whom I should blame for that one.