Game of Thrones - TV Series (NO BOOK SPOILERS)

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Remobz

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I first assumed it was her kids or nieces/nephews, because of her speech at the meeting regarding her dead family. That show seemed to imply recognition more than plain old fear...but without her saying that directly, it's hard to say.

Or maybe she simply hated to hack children up even if they were dead?

NO matter how rough and stuff she was maybe she still had a soft heart for children?
 

dainthomas

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I thought it was pretty clear that they were going by Walking Dead rules, where any head-shot is good.

I clearly remember one crawling through the gate with an arrow straight throw its head, so I don't think that does it.
 

bunnyfubbles

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You guys need to relax about the wights army growing stronger and being a threat.

Don't you all see where all this is going?

The WW's and there undead army will be REALLY strong and almost to the point of victory when three dragons will appear and burn them all to hell.

Seriously, WW = winter and dragons = fire

Fire is stronger than ice and so guess what will happen in the end?


The wights could be a 200,000 strong dead army for all I care. Dragons always win.

yup, because when Ned was going to save the day things worked out for the hero and all the good guys lived happily ever after...oh wait, nope, that guy actually failed, so its now a story of the son who is going to pick up where his father left off and redeem his honor! Oh wait, nope, he died a brutal, gruesome death as well, that also got lots of his countrymen killed in the process.

at this point, if Dragons had something to do with Valyria's doom, then maybe we don't want them...maybe the Others aren't so evil, maybe they're the ones that are supposed to stop fire from consuming the world, or maybe these "gods" don't give a fuck about mortals at all and only use them for pawns in their own struggles and its up to humans to throw off the shackles Greek mythology style and go their own way.

do you honestly believe the most predictable ending is what is going to take place in a show like this?
 

Udgnim

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You guys need to relax about the wights army growing stronger and being a threat.

Don't you all see where all this is going?

The WW's and there undead army will be REALLY strong and almost to the point of victory when three dragons will appear and burn them all to hell.

Seriously, WW = winter and dragons = fire

Fire is stronger than ice and so guess what will happen in the end?


The wights could be a 200,000 strong dead army for all I care. Dragons always win.

dragons went extinct until Daenerys got naked and spawned them back into existence
 

Remobz

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yup, because when Ned was going to save the day things worked out for the hero and all the good guys lived happily ever after...oh wait, nope, that guy actually failed, so its now a story of the son who is going to pick up where his father left off and redeem his honor! Oh wait, nope, he died a brutal, gruesome death as well, that also got lots of his countrymen killed in the process.

at this point, if Dragons had something to do with Valyria's doom, then maybe we don't want them...maybe the Others aren't so evil, maybe they're the ones that are supposed to stop fire from consuming the world, or maybe these "gods" don't give a fuck about mortals at all and only use them for pawns in their own struggles and its up to humans to throw off the shackles Greek mythology style and go their own way.

do you honestly believe the most predictable ending is what is going to take place in a show like this?

Or maybe all the unpredictable outcomes is only to set up the predictable one?

We could keep at this all day couldn't we?

If nothing is what it seems then I could be right? Maybe? But it is fun guessing:)
 

CZroe

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Jun 24, 2001
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Actually, come to think about it how can they be killed?

Simple: A dragonslayer. Gotta be a dime a dozen in their world.

More seriously though: When discussing the skulls and names of previous dragons they noted the successive generations were smaller and smaller until they were small/weak enough to be defeated. Clearly, something else contributed to their demise.
 

Childs

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Ya I'm not buying that scene one bit.

Oh she's got a weakness for kids? Puhleease, she's a wildling, who can wield a weapon. She grew up in a pretty harsh environment, she's probably seen tons of kids die due to cold, hunger, or sickness. Odds are if she had 6 kids, 3 of them died young.

She was a cool character, so I would have liked to see her go down swinging or just run to the boats. It does seem inconsistent with what little we know about her character, and I would have thought looking after the children she originally put on the boats would have pushed her to survive.

They should have had the children charging her and the giant comes by and just stomps them.
 

Anubis

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yup, because when Ned was going to save the day things worked out for the hero and all the good guys lived happily ever after...oh wait, nope, that guy actually failed, so its now a story of the son who is going to pick up where his father left off and redeem his honor! Oh wait, nope, he died a brutal, gruesome death as well, that also got lots of his countrymen killed in the process.

at this point, if Dragons had something to do with Valyria's doom, then maybe we don't want them...maybe the Others aren't so evil, maybe they're the ones that are supposed to stop fire from consuming the world, or maybe these "gods" don't give a fuck about mortals at all and only use them for pawns in their own struggles and its up to humans to throw off the shackles Greek mythology style and go their own way.

do you honestly believe the most predictable ending is what is going to take place in a show like this?

the dragons did not cause the doom. the doom as described in the show was most likely a massive volcanic eruption, ground ripping apart and fire from the sky and all that jazz

the only dragons to survive were those the targeryans had, as stated in the show they got smaller and smaller each generation until they were gone

likely due to massively reduced numbers for breeding and the fact that they were not free to roam and kill as they pleased - which I believe was stated in season 1
 

AznAnarchy99

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You guys need to relax about the wights army growing stronger and being a threat.

Don't you all see where all this is going?

The WW's and there undead army will be REALLY strong and almost to the point of victory when three dragons will appear and burn them all to hell.

Seriously, WW = winter and dragons = fire

Fire is stronger than ice and so guess what will happen in the end?


The wights could be a 200,000 strong dead army for all I care. Dragons always win.

Sooo what happens when they become undead dragons?

BAM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCr7y4SLhck
 

Charmonium

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Where did the white walkers come from? It had to be magic of some sort.

That's one of the things that sort of bothers me about the show so far. Magic is in every corner but you rarely get a glimpse of it. There's Ban's ability to take control of animals - and Hodor. There was the scene earlier in the season of Cerci getting her future told. There's the red witch, etc. Magic is always just in the shadows.

I think whatever is going to happen involving the white walkers will be magical and nothing obvious.
 

Anubis

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magic has been around forever but it had seemed to have faded in recent times. when Danny birthed the dragons, it was said she brought magic back to the world. its just one of those things that ebs and flows

the ability to warg "control animals" has been around for a long time as well, its believed its the main way you control the dragons by warging into them.
the "Nights King" - zombie king we saw in the last ep was the 13th lord commander of the nights watch

John is the 998th

above may be a spoiler but they mentioned him by name In the after show
 
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dainthomas

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Simple: A dragonslayer. Gotta be a dime a dozen in their world.

More seriously though: When discussing the skulls and names of previous dragons they noted the successive generations were smaller and smaller until they were small/weak enough to be defeated. Clearly, something else contributed to their demise.

In "the medium which shall not be named" it is stated that confining them stunts their growth. So of course that's the first thing Dany does because she's an idiot. At least Drogon is still out there.
 

Exophase

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In "the medium which shall not be named" it is stated that confining them stunts their growth. So of course that's the first thing Dany does because she's an idiot. At least Drogon is still out there.

What choice does she have? If they roam free they start killing and eating random people. She'd put Drogon back in there if she could.
 

Phoenix86

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didn't they also state this in the show?

I don't recall it, but it happens to pretty much any caged animal. I was thinking about dragon riders and naturally assumed there would be 3. One for each dragon, but just one is making more sense. 1 with rider, 2 following.

There's been talk of requiring a warg to ride one, but all of them are dead except Bran, who was also told he'd fly, presumably on the back of a dragon. If there was going to be 3 riders, I'd expect we would know the other two by now.

Of course if we do, the other 2 riders aren't wargs. Maybe Bran controls them enough to train a rider, who knows. That's why I'm thinking one rider on the one full sized dragon.
 

Anubis

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there are presumably other wargs out there in the world that we don't know and have not met
there were wildlings in the previous seasons who could do it
 

Phoenix86

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there are presumably other wargs out there in the world that we don't know and have not met
there were wildlings in the previous seasons who could do it

Of course, but if they were going to be so important to put on dragons, I'd expect the character would be known by now. There's only like 1.5 books of (mostly unwritten) content left, correct?
 
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Didn't the show explicitly state that wargs couldn't control something like a dragon? I know they spelled out that wargs couldn't control humans (until Bran took over Hodor), but I thought they also said that dragons were higher-level intellects like humans so warging them was out of the question. Maybe I dreamed that bit.
 

Gooberlx2

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there are presumably other wargs out there in the world that we don't know
there were wildlings in the previous seasons who could do it

Yep, we know for a fact that one of the wildlings scouted by controlling an eagle before/during the battle at Castle Black. As for controlling dragons, I don't think we've been introduced to anyone sufficiently powerful enough of a warg, except maybe for Bran?
 
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Anubis

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Didn't the show explicitly state that wargs couldn't control something like a dragon? I know they spelled out that wargs couldn't control humans (until Bran took over Hodor), but I thought they also said that dragons were higher-level intellects like humans so warging them was out of the question. Maybe I dreamed that bit.

they said that no one had ever warged a human before bran did it. im not sure about the dragon thing, but as I said current theory is that the dragonriders of old were wargs