Money makes them powerful. They have barges of gold.On that note I'm wondering what makes the Iron Bank so powerful. I could understand if the economy was more modern/globalized, but what exactly can they do if you refuse to pay them back? Do they have some massive repo army sitting in Bravos, and is it massive enough to Conquer the entire Westerlands?
Well if that's the way the world works than fine I guess, I'm sure George has a good reason. I just don't see the economic sense.Money makes them powerful. They have barges of gold.
Tyrion already said, if they don't pay back the Iron Bank, then the Iron Bank will fund their enemies. Davos has already written them a letter, and Stannis is talking to them in the next episodes preview.
It's called investments. And that's the way the real world works too. He who has the gold, makes the rules.Well if that's the way the world works than fine I guess, I'm sure George has a good reason. I just don't see the economic sense.
"Hey dawg! I heard you weren't going to pay back that gold I loaned you! So I'm going to give an even bigger loan to one of your enemies who's even less likely to pay me back! Joke's on you!"
Seems like throwing good money after bad to me. Like if a bank funded the war in Iraq, didn't get paid, and decided to fund Iraqi insurgents instead. Not a very sound business strategy.
Yes, and what do venture capitalists start doing when investments don't work out? (and sometimes when they do) they pile on more and more conditions for funding, gain more and more ownership of the company/venture funded to the point where they can completely take over and sell it or do whatever they want to recoup their losses. Hence the term "vulture" for average venture capitalist and "angels" for those rare venture capitalists with a conscience. I don't see how the Iron Bank can reposes or gain equity over a nation.It's called investments. And that's the way the real world works too. He who has the gold, makes the rules.
Lol I am, this episode more than any other this season. But you can't blame a guy for asking for details when the writers have created such a detailed universe. If the Iron Bank is going to be a major player and not just some occasionally-mentioned entity (which I imagine they are, give that seems to be where the Staanis plotline is going) they need a believable motivation. I'm sure the writers have something cooked up I just hope it holds; because if the Iron Bank is purely a bank they should be chasing profit, and there doesn't seem to be much profit in funding Westerosi civil wars. Could be very cool, perhaps they fear the armies of Westeros could threaten Bravos if they weren't fighting each other, or some other higher purpose. Ah well, I put my faith in George and Co's thus far very capable hands.You're putting too much thought into this. Enjoy the show ffs.
Because the first thief doesn't want to die. Let's say I give you a buck to take over the throne, and you manage to do so and you don't repay me; I give the next person in line 2 bucks. What's your play? Pay up or die. Hell, the most powerful house in Westeros has an unofficial house motto about always repaying their debts; it's a sensible thing to do when money buys power.Funding a debter's enemies/retracting funding may be useful for showcasing revenge, instilling fear, keeping other clients in line etc, but they're still losing money overall. If one thief runs away with your money, what sense does it make to give the thief standing next to him the same offer?
the letter to catelyn said the lannisters have poisoned john arryn (robert's hand) and she has run for her life back to the eyrie. with the hand's murder, and the crown's massive debt, it was littlefinger the whole time!Those ~2 sentences from Old Crone Ugly face covered a SHITLOAD of information from the past. Now, I'm trying to recall the specific letter that Lady Stark received--was it the one that informed her of the incest king? Or the origin of the dagger (claiming it was Tyrion?) I do remember her taking the letter and consulting with her Maester and someone else in secret, before acting...but the specific nature of that letter alludes me right now. Though I think it sent her off to get Tyrion.
Disagree that it was a better episode than the last, but it was certainly interesting to see how Littlefinger has been behind key events in Westeros dating back to before the show started. Kind of surprised that Locke was dealt with so abruptly, especially by someone possessed by the mind of the person who was crippled by the person whose hand he was responsible for taking... OK, that's a bizarre sentence. But still, I figured they'd keep him around longer. But, yeah, good episode overall.wooo that was MUCH better than the previous episode.
really? i thought s04e04 was 1 of the worst episodes this show has cranked out.Disagree that it was a better episode than the last
1. some bombs being dropped! the way tywin informed cersei of the gold mines "the answer is the same." was killer, and lysa is truly 10 pounds of crazy in a 5 pound bag. i never would have guessed she and baelish were hooked up so far back, she murdered john for him, or that they were bringing down the lannisters before episode 1!
That's a book wiki that you linked, which will contain spoilers inappropriate for the TV show. The show does also have its own wikia site, which follows the show and as far as I could is tell kept pretty tight not to have spoiler from the books and only document things that have happened on the show. So the wiki link to Jojen should be this: http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/Jojen_Reedjojen's visions looked really good, but seemed a bit out of context - maybe more from his perspective was needed to flesh it out.
the link is removed.That's a book wiki that you linked, which will contain spoilers inappropriate for the TV show. The show does also have its own wikia site, which follows the show and as far as I could is tell kept pretty tight not to have spoiler from the books and only document things that have happened on the show. So the wiki link to Jojen should be this: http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/Jojen_Reed
Edit: Oh and you probably meant to post the pictures in the other thread. I don't get them, and not really interested to know what to get