Events like the red wedding are very necessary to the story and not publicity stunts. They are IMHO the best bits of the books. In the very first show where Jamie and Cersie are at it and he pushes Bran out the window or when Ned gets his head cut off... these jaw dropping moments and the fact no character is safe is what makes the books soo good.
This has been covered before by the producers of the show... although the book is in a fictional setting it is still based on olden day times of humans. Back then 30 years old is equivalent to 50 now...15 years old then is like 10 years old now... etc ... etc.
The real reason they did it was because they wanted to stay as true to the books as possible with Dany's character. And it is illegal in a lot of places for an actor over the age of 18 to portray an underage character in sexual situations. Thus, her being 13 would have instantly made GoT illegal in a lot of countries (the UK, I believe is the one cited).
Also, even R.R. Martin admits that the average life span of the time was severely impacted by the infants not surviving birth, and not so much as people dying young.
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He wasn't saying the Red Wedding itself was a stunt, but that the show's version of it, particular the initial stabbings, are a stunt. I don't particularly agree...even a book-pure version of that event would have kicked the audience in the nuts.
...but they had to do something to remove Lady Talissa from the story.
The actor who portrays Catelyn in the show wasn't the first choice. The first choice (looked younger) had a conflict.
I do agree that Catelyn looks way too old in the show though.
Initial casting had Jennifer Ehle in the part and pilot.
zinfamous
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That character pumped out 5 kids. What kind of super fan can get angry that she doesn't look like some nubile 30 year-old?
:hmm:
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Difference between a worn out 30 year old and a grandmother. The entire age of the cast however is off which takes away from story IMO. Big difference between a 16 y/o
leading the nights watch
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I am annoyed because I imagined her much more attractive and Sean Bean deserves far better!
I think the aging of the characters makes it a lot more realistic. Rob being 15 and being as good of a commander is a bit of a stretch, but aging him a few years, it isn't as bad.
Arya being older also really helps her story line a good deal IMO, even if it makes her extra annoying in Season 1.
I do wish they had gotten another actress to play Cat and Cersei. Or, at the very least, dye that bitches eyebrows... Come on. It is infuriating having to look at her blond hair and black eyebrows.
Catelyn looks too old to be Rickon's mother. Especially with their medieval technology. With today's fertility treatments you see it more often, but even today if you saw a 50 year old woman with a 5 year old child, you'd assume she was the grandmother not the mother.
They doubled the age of Margaery. In the books she was 15, while the actress is in her early 30's. You might not think that that's a big deal yet, but
she marries Tommen. Now that creates an even larger age difference than was in the books. So now they switched actors and are going have an older boy play Tommen. That's just weird aging up a character in the middle of a story, while no time jump in the story has happened.
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Right from the get-go they had age problems with this story. The characters in the books were too young to be shown doing those things on TV, so everyone had to be aged up appropriately to keep things legal and less pedobear. That would not have been a problem if they did it with more of an eye towards consistency. Sansa and Joffrey could have gone from 12 to 18, Danny from 13 to 19, Arya 9 to 15, Robb 14 or 15 to 21, add 10 years to the Ned and Kat, then Thommen could have gone 7 to 13 and Margaery at 19 could be viewed as a suitable match for both Renly and for Thommen. It all *could* have fit without recasting if they had gotten the casting right in the first place. It's like they did the age-doctoring on Sansa, Robb, Joffrey, Jon and Arya and completely forgot about the Thommen/Margaery union.
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I've placed the order. I wanted to know if there was enough additional depth/background in the books, it's not exactly a consensus here, but more people recommended getting the books.
I don't have HBO, nor cable for that matter, and dvd/blu-ray for season 3 was released Feb 18, so I'll probably not get to watch season 4 until next year, and will have to stay away from this thread. Books should keep me busy, I only read 3-5 hours a week on average, so I might not even catch up.
On an unrelated note, I prefer reading on my e-Reader nowadays, but publishers's price makes no sense, $40 against $30 for paperbacks. Now they get less money, and there's cost for the paper book. Oh well, they lose more than I do...
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Clicking on that link shows $41.96 plus taxes for me. I'm in Canada, and I clicked on Kindle version and it was $39.99, and web page says the price was set by the publisher.
Although it's a moot point since I have Kobo reader, and I checked on Kobo site - the price is the same $39.99. So, paperbook it is...
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I hammered out all five books in a few months after a loooong hiatus from reading. I couldn't stop myself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2p9dRl0yYo How the show was started. Old info, but well presented.
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Nice find! I wonder what their answer was to GRRM regarding
Jon's mother
My prediction:
he's a Targaryan!
The generally accepted theory is that Jon's
parents are Lyanna Stark and Rhaegar Targaryen.
Well, we haven't reached the part where families are convinced that Rhaegar ran off with Lyanna to elope, rather than kill her, so the show has kept that speculation back.
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