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Game of Thrones - TV Series (NO BOOK SPOILERS)

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One thing I was wondering about was Jon Snow's wolf, ghost.

It never showed it traveling with him as he went to the wall.
yeah i think they should have showed him following on the trail, or even hanging out at the campfire scene. the Jon/Ghost relationship is one of the stronger human/wolf ones.

i think they also should have had at least one short dream sequence while bran was in the coma. he was laying there idle, but his brain wasnt.
 

dwell

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Doreah was given to Dany as a wedding present from Viserys (though I think Illyrio paid). Her specific task was to make Dany a better lover, probably to make sure the Khal was satisfied with the deal. so its from the books, but not really story-critical
Yeah, didn't remember that from the books. Guess I glossed over it.
 

jessieqwert

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I think we might need two threads here - one for those that have read the books and those that haven't.
 

SZLiao214

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I have more qualms with the sex scene with Dany and the handmaiden. WTF was that all about?
Do you know how i know you are gay?

I was kinda surprised how they portrayed Dany's and Cal's first time together. I remember it being a lot softer then rape.
 

bunnyfubbles

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I think we might need two threads here - one for those that have read the books and those that haven't.
No kidding, I'm in here assuming this thread is about the HBO series (as per the thread title) and so I'll scroll over the
tagged content assuming its about the show (of which I'm completely caught up on) only to discover its about the books which potentially spoil both the show and book because its about things that have yet to take place in the show.
 

Maleficus

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No kidding, I'm in here assuming this thread is about the HBO series (as per the thread title) and so I'll scroll over the
tagged content assuming its about the show (of which I'm completely caught up on) only to discover its about the books which potentially spoil both the show and book because its about things that have yet to take place in the show.
that's why it's tagged spoiler...
 

Maleficus

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Do you know how i know you are gay?

I was kinda surprised how they portrayed Dany's and Cal's first time together. I remember it being a lot softer then rape.
Khal, and yea me too, I could have sworn it was the
'no no no no no yes' thing. seems like I remember him spending most of the night on foreplay.
 
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No kidding, I'm in here assuming this thread is about the HBO series (as per the thread title) and so I'll scroll over the
tagged content assuming its about the show (of which I'm completely caught up on) only to discover its about the books which potentially spoil both the show and book because its about things that have yet to take place in the show.
well i think in the TV threads its a pretty safe assumption that once something is aired, its not spoilable. like, i wouldnt even go into a TV thread unless I was caught up on the show. i would think in this case most spoiler tags would be book-related.
 

Aikouka

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yeah i think they should have showed him following on the trail, or even hanging out at the campfire scene. the Jon/Ghost relationship is one of the stronger human/wolf ones.

i think they also should have had at least one short dream sequence while bran was in the coma. he was laying there idle, but his brain wasnt.
I was pretty certain that I saw the white wolf at one point... although, I can't remember which point it was.
 

BrokenVisage

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well i think in the TV threads its a pretty safe assumption that once something is aired, its not spoilable. like, i wouldnt even go into a TV thread unless I was caught up on the show. i would think in this case most spoiler tags would be book-related.
Granted, but the thread title is "Game of Thrones - HBO TV Series" so get the book-related spoilers out of here, not everyone will make that distinction and I doubt everyone even knows this show is based off a book.
 

Pheran

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No kidding, I'm in here assuming this thread is about the HBO series (as per the thread title) and so I'll scroll over the
tagged content assuming its about the show (of which I'm completely caught up on) only to discover its about the books which potentially spoil both the show and book because its about things that have yet to take place in the show.
I should have pointed this out earlier, but it would be very helpful if, when using a spoiler tag, that posters would also label it BOOK SPOILER if it's not just from the show. That way those who haven't read can be warned that they may get more spoiler than they bargained for. Some indication of severity would also be helpful, though that's a subjective measure.
 
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Pheran

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One thing I was wondering about was Jon Snow's wolf, ghost.

It never showed it traveling with him as he went to the wall.
There are brief shots, but unfortunately the direwolves are suffering a lot from the inevitable compression that happens from book to screen. I was a bit disappointed that they cut out the [very minor BOOK SPOILER]:
confrontation between Tyrion and Ghost
in ep2. Still, there's only so much run time and the human characters are generally more important that the wolves. Also, I doubt the non-readers have the faintest idea who Rickon is at this point (or, for that matter, Theon, though he's gotten some dialogue at least). But I can't disagree with the cutting choices made so far, so I'm happy with the series.
 

dainthomas

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I would just like to reiterate what a fantastic job Sean Bean is doing as Eddard, particularly the final couple scenes. ("The wolf is of the north. She deserves better than a butcher.") You can really see in his facial features and body language throughout the show the struggle between his honor and the desire to protect his family.

As in the book though, Tyrion is my favorite character. Peter Dinklage is doing a great job.

And seeing Joffrey get smacked AND chewed on in one episode was pure win.
 

dmoney1980

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I would just like to reiterate what a fantastic job Sean Bean is doing as Eddard, particularly the final couple scenes. ("The wolf is of the north. She deserves better than a butcher.") You can really see in his facial features and body language throughout the show the struggle between his honor and the desire to protect his family.

As in the book though, Tyrion is my favorite character. Peter Dinklage is doing a great job.

And seeing Joffrey get smacked AND chewed on in one episode was pure win.
Totally agree! Great job casting by HBO. Arya is spot on as well
 

jonks

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I would just like to reiterate what a fantastic job Sean Bean is doing as Eddard, particularly the final couple scenes. ("The wolf is of the north. She deserves better than a butcher.")
Yeah, saying that right in front of Ilyn Payne, I half expected him to turn to him and say "No offense Headsman" to which the tongueless Payne could respond with a shrug, "itths awwight."
 

Perknose

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I'm not a huge fan of the genre, but having now watched the first two episodes, I'm basically impressed.

Sure, it's melodrama. That's built into the genre. Complaining about this aspect would be like complaining about car chases and explosions in an action movie.

Anyway, plot driven melodramatic confrontations makes for rollicking good TV, all in all.

I think non-readers (my wife and my friends wife) are having a hard time figuring out where things are happening and the relationships between it all.
Critical reviews I had read warned of this, but thankfully I, personally, haven't had any problem at all.

I was really fearing cast complexity on the order of a long Russian novel, which can truly be daunting and confusing. So far, this doesn't even come close.

Yes; though I would argue that the fantasy genre in general has this problem. I was expecting more from a highly acclaimed novel. Still, that was one tiny part of the overall picture of the writing style that didn't do it for me.
Yeah, sex scenes. There's a true art to writing them that not all authors have mastered, to say the least. Sometimes an author's attempts make you laugh out loud, they're so lame.

However, as pertains the show, none of the sex scenes have seemed gratuitous or out of the flow of the story to me at all. Nor have they been poorly staged, say I.

Back (in the Dark Ages) when I was 11-12 I got into Science Fiction. I rather quickly went through all the offerings in both my school library and my local public library, and thirsted for more.

So I asked for and got a sub to The Magazine of Fantasy and Science Fiction, a several hundred page thick pulp (in that the paper was literally pulp paper, which is where the term "pulp fiction" derives its meaning) monthly.

Each month they published 7-12 complete short(er) original works. Each month, some were quite good, but they were almost always outnumbered by the turgid, really terribly written "Fantasy" pieces, most of which were such low grade soft porn that they didn't even appeal to the horny pre-teen that I was.

So, yeah, poorly written sex scenes are an enduring infestation of the Fantasy fiction market, I guess.

Anyway, back to the show. I was full prepared to dislike it from my haughty and imperial perch, but instead I have become a fan. I thought the way they wrapped up the second episode was stellar. :thumbsup:
 

Maleficus

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Anybody else think Lena Headey is playing Cersei too obviously haughtily?
Cersei is a pretty haughty character? I think she is playing her too one-dimensionally though.

Perhaps that is what you meant and we are on the same page.

Cersei, like all the characters in this series, is complex, and I think right now she is just 'that bitch'
 

DangerAardvark

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Cersei is a pretty haughty character? I think she is playing her too one-dimensionally though.

Perhaps that is what you meant and we are on the same page.

Cersei, like all the characters in this series, is complex, and I think right now she is just 'that bitch'
Well, to be fair, she has more than "bitch" going for her. She also has "hot".
 

Howard

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Cersei is a pretty haughty character? I think she is playing her too one-dimensionally though.

Perhaps that is what you meant and we are on the same page.

Cersei, like all the characters in this series, is complex, and I think right now she is just 'that bitch'
Yeah, I always thought that she would be more personable in public though.
 

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