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Lifer
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Originally posted by: BustaBust
I thought they used new decks everytime to prevent cheating and so forth?

Single deck tables typically change decks evey hour, and depending on the amount of people at the table, they will deal several hands before re-shuffling the deck.
 

bigredguy

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Originally posted by: aircooled
Originally posted by: BustaBust
Yup but casinos dont play like that

Yes they do. You just have to look for the single deck tables. Thats all I played on last week in Vegas.

Typically the single deck tables are higher limit.
 

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Lifer
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Originally posted by: bigredguy
Originally posted by: aircooled
Originally posted by: BustaBust
Yup but casinos dont play like that

Yes they do. You just have to look for the single deck tables. Thats all I played on last week in Vegas.

Typically the single deck tables are higher limit.
I found $5 min early (which jumped to $10 min in the evening/night) at the Stratosphere and at the Excalibur. Wish they would have stayed $5 all night. I hear there are many off-strip places that have $2 tables, but I didn't go to any of those places.

 

KoolAidKid

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Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: KoolAidKid
Originally posted by: richardycc
do not try to touch the cards at the blackjack table or you will look like a noob. ;) learn the hand signals for hit me, stay, you will go far from here...

Depends where you are playing. In Vegas (and elsewhere) you hold your cards. This makes things slightly more difficult for card counters.

Unless you want to learn how to count cards, the easiest way to make bets where the odds are most in your favor is to play craps. Find a $5 minimum table and make minimum bets on the Pass and Come lines. After the come-out roll put the maximum odds behind your original bet. Play as many simultaneous bets as you are comfortable with. Forget about all other bets on the table; they are for suckers.

Have you ever been to a casino and played blackjack? You do NOT hold your cards unless it is single deck, maybe.

Yes, I have considerable experience playing blackjack in Vegas and elsewhere (AC and Illinois, mostly). There are many blackjack tables in Vegas where you hold your cards. Typically you don't at any table with less than or equal to $25 minimums, but there are plenty of exceptions to this as well. If you only gamble at $10 tables I'm sure that it's much more common to see 8-deck shoes with continuous shuffling and no card-holding.
 

Garet Jax

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Originally posted by: aircooled
I've never played card games at a table (just electronic), but I'm thinking about stopping at a blackjack table for a bit.

I know I will not leave Vegas a winner, but I want my alloted amount of gambling money to at least last all night :)

What do you recommend playing for a Vegas newbie??? :)

The card game with the best odds is war. I have seen it a few times at casinos. The dealer literally drops three cards face down and then flips one up for each player. A tie is redone until there is a winner. There is no dealer/house advantage so the odds are trully 50%.

However, the casinos have a low bet limit on these tables and a limited number of seats. Greatest thing is no learning curve.

Other than war, the best games to play are ones where the dealer/house has no stake in the game other than the rake. This way you are not competing against bad odds, you are competing against the other players.
 

amoeba

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Originally posted by: DBL
Originally posted by: amoeba
I play about 100K a month. I do agree that poker is most entertaining as you are actually doing stuff.

That's quite a bit. 1000hrs playing two tables or 500hrs playing four? I'm lucky to play 3K hands per month and a 2-4 tournaments. Either way, that kind of experience is not necessary to play at a low-limit table in Vegas.


100k hands is about 1000 hrs of play 1 tabling. 100hands an hour, not 100 raked hands an hour but 100 hands an hour are about right.

I 4 table so 250 hours of actual play. hmm...come to think of it, that does seem a lot. Maybe I clear it in 2 months.

 

vood0g

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Originally posted by: JEDI
1) poker has best odds if u are a good poker player. if not, dont play. Read "Low Limit Hold'em" by Lee Jones. Then after you fully understand that, read "Small Stakes Hold'em" by Ed Miller. (Do NOT read Ed's book till you understand Lee's. Ed's book is not for beginners.)

2) video poker has next best odds. FPDW (Full pay deuces wild) variety pays 100.7%. The player actually has a .7% edge with perfect strategy. You can find FPDW at Sam's Town which is a couple of miles east of the Strip. (I don't think there are any left on the strip.)

3) Craps is next. Best strategy-> 3 bets:
passline/odds
come line/odds
come line/odds

Pick casinos with at least 3x/4x/5x odds. If not, then you're better off playing blackjack.

Bring 10x the amount of $ you plan to risk.

ie: $2 passline, 5x odds = $12
$2 come/5x odds = $12
$2 come/5x odds = $12

$36 x 10 = get $360 in chips before you start playing

4) Blackjack- Avoid places that only pay 6:5 instead of 3:2 on blackjack

5) if you want a mindless game, play bacarat. ALWAYS bet on the banker (dealer). There's no decision to be made by you. The dealer will make all the decisions based on a set of rules. The rules should be the same in every casino.

It has a low house edge if you bet on the dealer. MUCH better than playing other mindless games like slots.

i have yet to see a craps table that is under $5 minimum.

for some reason, those old folks get extremely lucky when they shoot. had this lady one time shooting for about 20 mins before she rolled the 7. she was like 90 years old and didnt even know what the hell was going on. good times!
 

AUMM

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Originally posted by: Garet Jax
Originally posted by: aircooled
I've never played card games at a table (just electronic), but I'm thinking about stopping at a blackjack table for a bit.

I know I will not leave Vegas a winner, but I want my alloted amount of gambling money to at least last all night :)

What do you recommend playing for a Vegas newbie??? :)

The card game with the best odds is war. I have seen it a few times at casinos. The dealer literally drops three cards face down and then flips one up for each player. A tie is redone until there is a winner. There is no dealer/house advantage so the odds are trully 50%.

However, the casinos have a low bet limit on these tables and a limited number of seats. Greatest thing is no learning curve.

Other than war, the best games to play are ones where the dealer/house has no stake in the game other than the rake. This way you are not competing against bad odds, you are competing against the other players.



the odds on war are no way 50 50 ... in war, their odds are from when there is a tie. when you tie, you have to either place another bet for the same amount as your first bet, or surrender your bet. and if you win the tie, you only win the amount on your original bet
 

Tsunami982

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Originally posted by: FoBoT
isn't blackjack a mindless game? (if you know the "rules" to play by to win?)

seems very very boring. once you memorize all the situations and what to do , then what?

but if winning is the only object then it doesn't matter if its boring, i suppose

im sure you wouldnt call it mindless if you win. before i quite i was up almost 8g in blackjack.