Galveston, Texas: Photo Catches Mounted Police Leading Black Man By a Rope

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SMOGZINN

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No. I disagree with the practice, but he would not be dragged to death or tortured as the rope is being held by one hand of the officer. More likely he would be pulled from the horse or he would drop the rope.

As someone that has done roping from horseback I can assure you that a trained horseman would not be pulled from his horse. I doubt he would drop it either. He would decide to let the rope draw out or latch it to the horn and pull the person behind him. It is quite easy to do if you know how.
 

DaaQ

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If they're not making him walk a ridiculous distance or at a fast pace, etc. etc., if they are just moving him to another location that is in a reasonable distance and he is of able body, I don't see the issue. But, racists see racism everywhere.
Your problem is you always go "If' "But" for your arguments.

If your way of arguing isn't working, maybe try arguing differently.
 

HomerJS

Lifer
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If the walk was not that far why didn't the cop get off his horse and walk? Or he could have waited for a vehicle.
 

JEDIYoda

Lifer
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I have not lied. And I did see this happen. This is yet another case of those that want to be victims, those that need something to whine about, those that must create racism for the sake of creating racism fulfilling their destiny.
ry me a river...oh...boo hoo!!
 

JEDIYoda

Lifer
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Galveston island is tiny, it is only 3 miles wide at it's largest point and 27 miles long. There is only really two places that have heavy traffic, the Sea Wall and The Strand, by the picture it is obvious they are on neither. There was no reason they could not have waited for a squad car.

I can't know if it was racist or not, but I suspect it was. At the very minimum is was cops abusing their power to shame someone and generally being assholes because they thought they could get away with it.
Exactly!! If it was a white guy they would have called Limosine -- d5269581c7e01a77e22b7d075a685333.jpg
 

JEDIYoda

Lifer
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Keep creating that racism and division where there was none. I have seen this exact same thing in the past happen with mounted police.
So your of the opinion that to have racism you first must create it???? That so full of bull shit or Slow Spydyshit!!
 

JEDIYoda

Lifer
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As someone that has done roping from horseback I can assure you that a trained horseman would not be pulled from his horse. I doubt he would drop it either. He would decide to let the rope draw out or latch it to the horn and pull the person behind him. It is quite easy to do if you know how.
So...
 

pcgeek11

Lifer
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As someone that has done roping from horseback I can assure you that a trained horseman would not be pulled from his horse. I doubt he would drop it either. He would decide to let the rope draw out or latch it to the horn and pull the person behind him. It is quite easy to do if you know how.

So you Think he would intentionally drag the man to death if his horse was spooked?

I think you have a vivid imagination. LOL
 

HomerJS

Lifer
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So you Think he would intentionally drag the man to death if his horse was spooked?

I think you have a vivid imagination. LOL
If cop took the safer route of walking with arrestee or wait until vehicle shows up guarentee that wouldn't happen.
 

Sunburn74

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So you Think he would intentionally drag the man to death if his horse was spooked?

I think you have a vivid imagination. LOL
It's not a matter of intention. Why even create a situation where something like that can happen ? Would you be ok if that's how they chose to transport a child? Or a pregnant woman? Why is it ok to transport a black homeless person that way then?
 

pcgeek11

Lifer
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If cop took the safer route of walking with arrestee or wait until vehicle shows up guarentee that wouldn't happen.

I agree. But to insist that he would be tortured and dragged to his death if the horse spooked is questionable at best.
 

pcgeek11

Lifer
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It's not a matter of intention. Why even create a situation where something like that can happen ? Would you be ok if that's how they chose to transport a child? Or a pregnant woman? Why is it ok to transport a black homeless person that way then?


I never said that it was. If you had read the thread you would have seen what I posted.
 

pcgeek11

Lifer
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Would it be the first time that something like that happened?

How the hell would either you or I know that? I would think that getting control of the spooked horse would cause him to drop the rope tied to a handcuffed prisoner. To assume anything else requires a vivid imagination.
 

Viper1j

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How the hell would either you or I know that? I would think that getting control of the spooked horse would cause him to drop the rope tied to a handcuffed prisoner. To assume anything else requires a vivid imagination.

Try reading to find out..

Google can be your friend.

You only have to do it once, and then you have a "history" of doing it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_James_Byrd_Jr.

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James Byrd Jr. (May 2, 1949 – June 7, 1998) was an African American who was murdered by three white supremacists in Jasper, Texas, on June 7, 1998. Shawn Berry, Lawrence Brewer, and John King dragged Byrd for three miles behind a pickup truck along an asphalt road. Byrd, who remained conscious throughout most of his ordeal, was killed about halfway through the dragging when his body hit the edge of a culvert, severing his right arm and head. The murderers drove on for another 1 1⁄2 miles (2.4 km) before dumping his torso in front of a black cemetery in Jasper.[1][2] Byrd's lynching-by-dragging gave impetus to passage of a Texas hate-crimes law. It later led to the Matthew Shepard and James Byrd Jr. Hate Crimes Prevention Act, commonly known as the Matthew Shepard Act, which became federal law in 2009.[3]

Brewer was executed by lethal injection for his involvement in this crime by the state of Texas on September 21, 2011.[4] King was executed by lethal injection at the state penitentiary in Huntsville, Texas, on April 24, 2019.[5][6][7][8] Berry was sentenced to life imprisonment and will be eligible for parole in 2038.[9]
 

Puffnstuff

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I remember when getting drug meant that your 4x4 got stuck in the mud and you needed to be pulled out. My how times have changed.
 

SMOGZINN

Lifer
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So you Think he would intentionally drag the man to death if his horse was spooked?

I think you have a vivid imagination. LOL

The truth is that a trained horse like that is not going to just bolt. A spooked horse like this is going to take a few quick steps and pull the guy down, maybe kick out if the guy is too close behind it. I doubt he would get dragged to death, just injured.

But if it really did lose it and started to run the first reaction of the rider would be to regain control, because being on the back of a horse that is spooked is dangerous. The horse is not just going to run, it is going to try to throw you. You never want to lose complete control like that, and if that happens you don't have time to think. You just act to get control back. Unless he is well trained to do otherwise he is going to hold on to that line. You don't want to lose control of your line, because then you have lost control of what is on the other side of it as well. So you secure it, which means wrapping it around the saddle horn and hope you regain control of the horse quickly (which with a trained horse you probably will). And the odds are that is what they were trained to do.
 

Viper1j

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Well Google certainly isn't your friend.

God you suck at Google. :rolleyes:

James Byrd Jr. wasn't dragged to death by a Horse or the Police.

Oh forgive me, I wasn't writing a review of the preferred method of dragging a human being to death. I was simply stating facts.
 

pcgeek11

Lifer
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The truth is that a trained horse like that is not going to just bolt. A spooked horse like this is going to take a few quick steps and pull the guy down, maybe kick out if the guy is too close behind it. I doubt he would get dragged to death, just injured.

But if it really did lose it and started to run the first reaction of the rider would be to regain control, because being on the back of a horse that is spooked is dangerous. The horse is not just going to run, it is going to try to throw you. You never want to lose complete control like that, and if that happens you don't have time to think. You just act to get control back. Unless he is well trained to do otherwise he is going to hold on to that line. You don't want to lose control of your line, because then you have lost control of what is on the other side of it as well. So you secure it, which means wrapping it around the saddle horn and hope you regain control of the horse quickly (which with a trained horse you probably will). And the odds are that is what they were trained to do.


Speculation at best.