Gallup - Unemployment likely to be lower come Nov. 2nd Jobs Report....

[zinfamous]

Actually, I disagree to a certain extent. I do believe that there are jobs (whether good or bad) that will be filled if the money were to be cut off from people (i.e. extended unemployment, etc). I know people who have ridden the system (unemployment) for 2 years and have now suddenly found work just as it ran out. :hmm:

the major point of my comment is that the vast majority of jobs that were shed in 08-09 were jobs that have been completely obsolete in this country for more than a decade now.

The manufacturing base has long ago moved overseas, as our focus on educating our future workforce is seriously starting to make its presence known.

I believe that most of those who are experiencing long term unemployment are struggling to get back into jobs that no longer exist...in this country, anyway. And, well, that is what we have asked for for so long.

As good as it was to save the last remaining manufacturing base in this country--GM and all upon which GM depends--it is probably just a bandaid that will fall off in the next decade, assuming the ave. American remains committed to to the absolute cheapest, and lowest quality products imaginable (dependent on foreign manufacturing).

I think everyone wants to bring manufacturing back here, but:

1: no one wants to pay for the vastly increased cost of such products

2: no employer is going to tolerate employing such a workforce, as it can currently be done for a minute fraction of the cost elsewhere, on the backs of unprotected, underage, and lesser-skilled laborers that still tolerate pre-industrial age working conditions.


yeah...good luck with that. :\


My question--are the people that you know who have found work, gotten into the customer service sector? Not saying this is the same class of labor regarding the people you know, but it strikes me that this will be the contemporary and future field for lower-skilled labor in the US economy.

 

[mshan]

"During the recession, more than 2 million manufacturing employees lost work. Since then, just about half a million jobs have come back. You can do the math: that means at least 1.5 million people are still out of work.

But when you talk to employers, they say they can't find good people to hire. North American Tool Corp.'s Jim Hoyt has two openings right now for his northwest Illinois company, and he expects to continue hiring. But he often sees the same problem crop up during the application process.

"I'll write a few numbers down, mostly numbers with decimal points, because that's what we use in manufacturing, and have them add them or subtract them, or divide by two," Hoyt says. Job applicants often can't do the math.

Having basic math knowledge, especially of decimals, is important because of the precise inputs modern machines need. Like most manufacturers, North American Tool uses CNC, or computer numerical control, equipment. CNC machines make everything from the cutting tool parts North American Tool makes to automotive and medical equipment.

But calling these machines computerized is almost a misnomer because there are still plenty of manual calculations. And if you're off, even by a fraction, the equipment can crash.

Hoyt says a CNC crash usually happens because of a number that's typed in wrong or calculated incorrectly. "I'll hear a wreck in my office and pretty much the whole shop will get quiet,"he says. Those crashes can cost tens of thousands of dollars in fixing the expensive CNC machines and lost productivity."

http://www.npr.org/2012/07/10/155837962/for-manufacturing-jobs-workers-brush-up-on-math

 

[D-Man]

How many of the jobs will be the typical holiday season part time jobs at minimum wage?

I can answer that 99.9% If consumers Christmas buying is up Dec will look awesome for the underemployed as well.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

End entitlements and people will go back to work.

They would riot.

 

[EagleKeeper]

If someone wants to be employed they are counted. And like I said, unemployment benefits have nothing to do with any calculations of unemployment.

How do you count them if the only measuring stick is to short?

 

[JDawg1536]

How do you count them if the only measuring stick is to short?

There are lots of measuring sticks.