Galaxy S5 to sport 14nm Exynos 6000 series?

[lopri]

Shocking if true. The source mentions 14nm 3D Finfet. I am not an expert on lithography but I thought that's Intel territory. I have no idea how reputable the news site is or if the writer is versed in this area.

Samsung Galaxy S5 rumored to pack 14nm Exynos 6 CPU

A report in Korean media has emerged, potentially shedding light on the CPU of the yet to be revealed Samsung Galaxy S5. Reportedly, next generation Samsung Galaxy S smartphone will pack an Exynos 6 CPU with 14nm architecture and 64-bit support.

Original source via Google translate:

http://translate.google.com/transla...ww.ddaily.co.kr/news/news_view.php?uid=109670

 

[lopri]

The troublesome Exynos Octa reportedly goes through a metamorphosis, from A7+A15 configuration to A53+A57 combo (64-bit). Hope they get it right this time, but the jump to 14nm (what happened to 20nm?) sounds suspicious. Interestingly, the article seems to imply Apple's demands are what drives the jump to 14nm.

 

[Bman123]

exynos chips need to stay away from the US. I'd much rather have a snapdragon cpu.

 

[lopri]

Sometimes this industry confuses me.

Samsung fab great chips (A7, Snapdragons) but not theirs.
Sony make the best lenses for smartphone cameras but not their smartphone cameras.

 

[kpkp]

They can fab great Exynos too, but if you have design flaws great "fabing" wont do miracles.
14nm is not happening in time for the S5, that is just wishful thinking or attention seeking.

 

[Red Storm]

Going by history, it's not like we're going to see these phones here in the States anyway. We always get the non-Exynos versions.

 

[Yuriman]

Going by history, it's not like we're going to see these phones here in the States anyway. We always get the non-Exynos versions.

Galaxy S2 T-Mobile vs AT&T - both made it to the US and that wasn't really all that long ago.

 

[Red Storm]

Galaxy S2 T-Mobile vs AT&T - both made it to the US and that wasn't really all that long ago.

I guess I should have said recent history.

 

[dawheat]

I guess I should have said recent history.

Galaxy Note 2

But I agree 14nm Finfet is not going to happen next year for Samsung. What I think might happen is some naming games like some other foundaries have done, where their "14nm" is more akin to Intel's 20nm node.

 

[Roland00Address]

No

The forums won't let me post just a two letter comment, so no the Galaxy S5 will not be using 14nm Exynos

 

[lopri]

My guess is miscommunication between the reporter and whoever s/he spoke to. I don't think Apple need 14nm anytime soon considering what they've just achieved on 28nm. (on which they can sit on for a while)

 

[poofyhairguy]

Going by history, it's not like we're going to see these phones here in the States anyway. We always get the non-Exynos versions.

Exactly. The carriers demand Qualcomm.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

Exactly. The carriers demand Qualcomm.

do they really demand qualcomm? or was it more that previous LTE compatibility issues required qualcomm? if exynos can give LTE band compatibility, then why not?

of course there are other issues like development issues I have with Exynos, but from a carrier perspective that should not matter at all.

 

[Bman123]

do they really demand qualcomm? or was it more that previous LTE compatibility issues required qualcomm? if exynos can give LTE band compatibility, then why not?

of course there are other issues like development issues I have with Exynos, but from a carrier perspective that should not matter at all.

That's it right there" development issues" seals the deal

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

That's it right there" development issues" seals the deal

By development issues I mean custom ROMs and stuff. That should have nothing to do with why carriers choose Qualcomm.

 

[Graze]

God, hopefully that Exynos chip only remain on a few phones.

 

[Mopetar]

I highly doubt it. TSMC has just got their 20 nm process operational recently and that doesn't even have FinFET. From what I've read, their next node (16 nm) isn't actually improving density, but just using FinFETs, so as another poster pointed out, perhaps it's just a name game.

Even being generous, I don't think Samsung or anyone outside of Intel is going to reach that mark for several years to come, especially if they're just using the excuse of adding FinFETs to rebrand the process.

 

[poofyhairguy]

do they really demand qualcomm? or was it more that previous LTE compatibility issues required qualcomm? if exynos can give LTE band compatibility, then why not?

of course there are other issues like development issues I have with Exynos, but from a carrier perspective that should not matter at all.

On the podcast they mentioned how it takes carriers a while to certify a SoC platform for their network. By forcing Qualcomm devices phones get to market faster without extra expense or hassle.