GA put electronic system in place for voters and OTHERS to cancel their voter registration.

[HomerJS]

I won't lead the witness. Please read the article and vote if this is a good idea or bad idea to allow others to challenge a voter's registration. I attempted to keep the possible answers neutral.

Georgia portal for removing voters from the rolls worries Democrats

GA Sec. of State Brad Raffensperger says new program will “keep Georgia’s voter registration database up-to-date\

www.usatoday.com

 

[Zeze]

Trump has forever tainted the democracy with the J6. Now the seeds of doubt has been planted to all, nevermind that the armed forces of US all regularly did mail-in voting throughout history.

Are you happy daddy?

 

[dank69]

Someone needs to write a script to cancel every single registration in the state. Make these idiots feel the pain.

 

[APU_Fusion]

And the slow rolling coup continues. Said in jest I add.still obvious what is going on though.

 

[nickqt]

At first it sounds like a stupid fucking idea by a party of right-wing authoritarians attempting to retain control over a state they are losing control of given the demographic changes that are continuing due to Atlanta and other cities attracting decent people from other parts of the country.

Then I read:

To submit a cancellation request, users just need a few identifying details: A first initial, last name, county, date of birth, and the driver’s license number or last four digits of the Social Security number for the voter whose registration they are seeking to cancel. The new system “will lead to fewer clerical errors and peace of mind for any user,” said a press release announcing the portal’s launch.

And I thought to myself, surely anyone who has all of that very personal information is a relative doing the canceling. What could go wrong?

Then the next sentence:

But almost immediately, a major error was apparent: On the first day the portal went live, a glitch in the system allowed anyone to view a voter’s date of birth, driver’s license number and last four digits of their Social Security number — the very information needed to request that a voter’s registration be canceled.

Yes, this is clearly just a stupid fucking idea by a party of right-wing authoritarians attempting to retain control over a state they are losing control of given the demographic changes that are continuing due to Atlanta and other cities attracting decent people from other parts of the country.

Assuming climate change doesn't make Georgia uninhabitable over the next decade, by 2032 Georgia will be a blue state.

 

[Fenixgoon]

In other times I'd say it's just a system to simplify things. We are not in other times. And despite Raffensberger not caving into Trump, I have to view the system with incredible skepticism.

 

[pcgeek11]

I would say that No it is a very bad idea.

I do not agree with this part of your Poll: "target certain groups". What groups are you referring to in the poll. Needs definition. I could guess what groups you mean, but a definition would be better.

 

[Greenman]

It requires a drivers license number or an SSN. Doesn't seem like an issue to me.

 

[balloonshark]

It requires a drivers license number or an SSN. Doesn't seem like an issue to me.

Did you read post #5?

 

[Brainonska511]

It requires a drivers license number or an SSN. Doesn't seem like an issue to me.

It's not like there are huge databases of SSNs or license numbers just sitting on the dark web for people to use and abuse... And it's not even the whole SSN, it's just the last 4 digits.

Or the fact that the very first day, the system even could provide the very information needed to cancel anyone's registration.

But almost immediately, a major error was apparent: On the first day the portal went live, a glitch in the system allowed anyone to view a voter’s date of birth, driver’s license number and last four digits of their Social Security number — the very information needed to request that a voter’s registration be canceled.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

Someone needs to write a script to cancel every single registration in the state. Make these idiots feel the pain.

First thing I thought of. It'd be trivial to script that against a white pages list of the state's population.

EDIT oh, it requires an SSN/DL number? Okay, so a list from one of hundreds on the dark web instead.

 

[brycejones]

It requires a drivers license number or an SSN. Doesn't seem like an issue to me.

You do know your PII is for sale right?

 

[Brainonska511]

You do know your PII is for sale right?

Greenman is a conservative. Bad things only happen to bad people, and he'll only change his mind if something bad happens to him or someone he knows well.

 

[BoomerD]

Greenman is a conservative. Bad things only happen to bad people, and he'll only change his mind if something bad happens to him or someone he knows well.

Then it would be the fault of some filthy libruls.

 

[HomerJS]

I would say that No it is a very bad idea.

I do not agree with this part of your Poll: "target certain groups". What groups are you referring to in the poll. Needs definition. I could guess what groups you mean, but a definition would be better.

Hint: When Trump screams voter fraud where is he usually referring? I bet you already know the answer

 

[akugami]

This is a horrible idea.

As others have noted, there are tons of lists on the darkweb just chock full of the very information needed to cancel someone's voter registration. It is trivial for someone to do massive damage and silence many legal voters.

I don't have the article handy, but a while back, I read a few articles on laws like this allowing individuals to cancel or challenge another person's voting eligibility, and quite frankly, it is being abused. Every single abuser was right wingers with some of them sending in dozens of challenges. There's no other way to put it except to say the obvious, these are voter suppression laws. They are not voter integrity laws.

No one individual should be able to challenge or revoke the right of another voter without heavy repercussion. There are practically zero repercussions as these laws are written/implemented today.

There needs to be a registration process to identify the challenger. Limit the number of challenges to something like 5 in a one month period. Impose heavy penalties with monetary and jail times such as up to $5k per incidence of abuse and mandatory 30 days of jail time. If you want to be a bad actor and try to suppress 5 voters, and it is proven, then good luck with your new friend Bubba for the next half year.

 

[Brainonska511]

This is a horrible idea.

As others have noted, there are tons of lists on the darkweb just chock full of the very information needed to cancel someone's voter registration. It is trivial for someone to do massive damage and silence many legal voters.

I don't have the article handy, but a while back, I read a few articles on laws like this allowing individuals to cancel or challenge another person's voting eligibility, and quite frankly, it is being abused. Every single abuser was right wingers with some of them sending in dozens of challenges. There's no other way to put it except to say the obvious, these are voter suppression laws. They are not voter integrity laws.

No one individual should be able to challenge or revoke the right of another voter without heavy repercussion. There are practically zero repercussions as these laws are written/implemented today.

There needs to be a registration process to identify the challenger. Limit the number of challenges to something like 5 in a one month period. Impose heavy penalties with monetary and jail times such as up to $5k per incidence of abuse and mandatory 30 days of jail time. If you want to be a bad actor and try to suppress 5 voters, and it is proven, then good luck with your new friend Bubba for the next half year.

Hell, look at the PAC Elon set up: collect personal information from people in battleground states... nobody could do anything nefarious with that information, no siree.

People who do this kind of stuff, Elon included, should get sent to prison.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1819374704488013844

 

[MrSquished]

Greenman is cool with it, thus we all know the correct answer.

 

[outriding]

Federal elections need to be governed by the federal government with the same rules that apply to everyone

And

Violating any of the federal elections need to be prosecuted by the feds. Eg. Mark meadows was only charged at the state level and got off free

 

[Brainonska511]

Federal elections need to be governed by the federal government with the same rules that apply to everyone

And

Violating any of the federal elections need to be prosecuted by the feds. Eg. Mark meadows was only charged at the state level and got off free

SCOTUS said that racism is over though, so there is no more need for the Civil Rights Act to protect voting rights.

 

[outriding]

SCOTUS said that racism is over though, so there is no more need for the Civil Rights Act to protect voting rights.

Ohhh silly me

 

[pcgeek11]

Hint: When Trump screams voter fraud where is he usually referring? I bet you already know the answer

I didn't ask you what Trump says or means. What did YOU mean when you listed that as part of the poll.

 

[HomerJS]

I didn't ask you what Trump says or means. What did YOU mean when you listed that as part of the poll.

He targeted minorities by challenging and rumor mongering in big cities. It’s always those people in blue cities

Republicans always target minorities with voting rule changes where they know in advance there is disparate impact.

 

[pcgeek11]

He targeted minorities by challenging and rumor mongering in big cities. It’s always those people in blue cities

Republicans always target minorities with voting rule changes where they know in advance there is disparate impact.

Thanks.

 

[hal2kilo]

He targeted minorities by challenging and rumor mongering in big cities. It’s always those people in blue cities

Republicans always target minorities with voting rule changes where they know in advance there is disparate impact.

Well, they were stymied for a while before the SCOTUS threw out a majority of the voting rights act.