G92 is really an unfinished geforce 9?

[taltamir]

it seems that when the geforce 9 lunches in a few months it will be DX10.1 and SM4.1

This means that the choice to name the G92 based cards geforce 8800GT/GTS actually makes sense, because they are basically cheaper to produce cards of equivalent performance... while the finished product will only come out in a few months supporting the latest technologies...

So I guess I might have been wrong to give nvidia so much flack for their confusing choice of names (ofcourse, they should have called the 8900 ...)

 

[speckedhoncho]

Since Nvidia wants to follow Intel's refresh pattern, this cycle after a tech leap will produce only a smaller process and maybe 16 - 32 more SPs. But nothing else. It seems the G92 is already the 8800GTS of the D9x series.

 

[taltamir]

except the 8800GT and 8800GTS do not follow the refresh pattern, they were released early due to info that ATI is cooking up the 3800 series...

nvidia is saying it will release the Geforce 9 chips in a few monthes and those will all be DX10.1. And supposedly will have 3 chips designs, a low end, high end, and mid range. I guess we will wait and see.

 

[bryanW1995]

I'm scared that Nvidia is already talking about moving g100 up. That tells me that they might not be able to fix their g92 supply problems and we'll still be waiting for prices to drop in 3 mos. Did amd and nvidia switch places without telling us

 

[schneiderguy]

Originally posted by: bryanW1995
I'm scared that Nvidia is already talking about moving g100 up. That tells me that they might not be able to fix their g92 supply problems and we'll still be waiting for prices to drop in 3 mos. Did amd and nvidia switch places without telling us

Even if the 8800gt supply doesnt increase demand will go down, so the prices and availability should get better.

 

[hans007]

well they supposed using the G nomenclature.

its D8E or whatever now.


i would not be surprised to see a dual chip new version of the g92 as the next geforce 9 with dx10.1 which i doubt will need a ton of modifications since the SPs are programmable so you'd figure whatever decodes the instructions would just have to recognize the new instructions.

and you'll get a dual gpu one as the high end, and a 55nm cut down one as the low end.


the 8800gt i dont think came out because of amd, it probably came out because they were trying to increase the profit margin. i mean why not shrink it to 65nm and release it with a cheaper bus, that makes it costs less to make PCBs. even if AMD was bankrupt and never released the 3850 it would still have made financial sense to make a 8800gt anyway (it would just have cost more i'd figure since they could gouge us even more than they arleady are)

 

[AzN]

Nvidia is constantly tweaking their cards. You can call a g92 a unfinished geforce 9 but you can also call g80 unfinished g92.

 

[taltamir]

If they release the g100 chips then you wouldn't NEED anymore supply of the g92 chips since they would be obsolete. (unless they have no middle range cards of the g100...)

 

[schneiderguy]

Originally posted by: taltamir
If they release the g100 chips then you wouldn't NEED anymore supply of the g92 chips since they would be obsolete. (unless they have no middle range cards of the g100...)

I think the 8800gt will act as a midrange card when the 9xxx cards are released because usually theres at least a few months in between the high end card release and midrange card release. It might even end up being a situation like the 8600s/2600s and 7900gs/x1950pros where the "old" mid/high end card is actually faster than the "new" midrange card

 

[taltamir]

that would be an incentive for them to stop making the old cards . To not have them compete with the new midrange cards...