G80 to feature DX 10 and SM 4.0

[TSS]

http://www.tgdaily.com/2005/12/07/nvidia_g80/

"Not surprisingly, G80 will be tailored to run with Windows Vista and its Aero Glass functionality. The new graphics processor will transition to DirectX 10 and support Shader Model 4.0, Nvidia said. It was indicated that the current G7x generation will be available for some time, serving the entry-level and mainstream segment. G80 promises to bring a completely new processor architecture."

i know THG isnt the most reliable of sources, but its better then nothing...

 

[RussianSensation]

Good stuff - sounds like most of the major transitions (besides BTX) will have taken place by 2006.

Socket M2, DDR2 across all platforms, DX10 in graphics cards, new X-Fi creative cards this year, full transition to PCIe, SATA2. Seems like the perfect time for someone to do a complete overhaul for their older AGP systems with XP and P4 s478 processors come 2nd half of 2006.

 

[ayabe]

I think AMD should skip DDR2 altogether and wait for DDR3, it should have better timings. There still isn't a compelling reason to use DDR2 at this time.

 

[fliguy84]

Originally posted by: ayabe
I think AMD should skip DDR2 altogether and wait for DDR3, it should have better timings. There still isn't a compelling reason to use DDR2 at this time.

problem is, AMD doesn't have the 'pushing' power as much as Intel did with PCIE and DDR2. doing that would probaby kill AMD sales since the price of new DDR3 would probably priced higher than the present DDR2 (same story last year DDR vs DDR2). furthermore, DDR2 timings has come down a bit since last year. we can see 3-2-2-8(?) modules nowadays

 

[biostud]

Originally posted by: RussianSensation
Good stuff - sounds like most of the major transitions (besides BTX) will have taken place by 2006.

Socket M2, DDR2 across all platforms, DX10 in graphics cards, new X-Fi creative cards this year, full transition to PCIe, SATA2. Seems like the perfect time for someone to do a complete overhaul for their older AGP systems with XP and P4 s478 processors come 2nd half of 2006.

well, games will probably first be using DX10 by 2007

 

[RussianSensation]

Originally posted by: biostud

Originally posted by: RussianSensation
Good stuff - sounds like most of the major transitions (besides BTX) will have taken place by 2006.

Socket M2, DDR2 across all platforms, DX10 in graphics cards, new X-Fi creative cards this year, full transition to PCIe, SATA2. Seems like the perfect time for someone to do a complete overhaul for their older AGP systems with XP and P4 s478 processors come 2nd half of 2006.

well, games will probably first be using DX10 by 2007

Yeha you are right. It's just that most of the technology change predicted 2-3 years ago has taken place, leaving little excuse for holding off upgrades. For example, I have AGP (fastest AGP card is slow already), S478 (can't upgrade), DDR1 ram, crap onboard sound, cpu (can't get dual core). So going with M2 solves all of those issues.

 

[Slaimus]

Originally posted by: ayabe
I think AMD should skip DDR2 altogether and wait for DDR3, it should have better timings. There still isn't a compelling reason to use DDR2 at this time.

AMD has actually picked the perfect time to ramp up DDR2. DDR2 is actually cheaper than DDR1 right now, which means OEMs will have a compelling reason to migrate. Had they introduced M2 earlier (which I am sure they could), they would need to give price breaks on those CPUs to cancel out the additional cost in order to push them out.

This is probably why AMD is not going to go DDR3 until 2007-08. The technology would be ready earlier, but the cost is prohibitive for a small player.

Also, GDDR3 is more like DDR2, not DDR3. The GDDR3 used in graphics is not the DDR3 that will be used in PCs.