G71 Specifications

[CP5670]

Very cool stuff. Even if the 32 pipe thing turns out to be bogus, this will still be extremely fast at 700mhz.

I was thinking about waiting for this and the R580, but the 512 GTX has left me skeptical of the price and availability of these top end cards and I want to have something during my winter break (next semester starts at the end of january), so I figured that getting two GTs right now was a better choice.

 

[sodcha0s]

Right. Think of it as on-chip SLI.

3dfx were way ahead of their time...

 

[Cooler]

Originally posted by: sodcha0s

Right. Think of it as on-chip SLI.

3dfx were way ahead of their time...

if only they were still here.

 

[destrekor]

they are to an effect
but their knowledge is taking awhile to be shown

3dfx was bought by nvidia and nvidia kind of gobbled them up, taking in some of the employees, and leaving some behind. I imagine some of the more brilliant ones kept their jobs. Sadly, it just doesn't show anymore. But I can imagine the new SLI came from an ex-3dfx employee working at nVidia.

 

[fliguy84]

Originally posted by: Cooler

Originally posted by: sodcha0s

Right. Think of it as on-chip SLI.

3dfx were way ahead of their time...

if only they were still here.

they are here, in nVidia that is

 

[destrekor]

lol
i usually never beat anybody to the punch

 

[Kroz]

Originally posted by: munky
32 pipes? I'll believe it when it's official. The Inq also said the r520 will have 32 pipes... and then shortly before the launch revised it to 16

Why not the 7800 GT has 20 pipes "now" and the GTX has 24 pipes "now" so I wouldn't be surprised if it does get 32 pipes.

 

[nRollo]

If true, a blow to the "R580 is a comin' and nV has no response" crowd at some sites.

LOL definitely good times to be a gamer, even if you're not wealthy this deluge of new tech makes very good and not very old tech that much cheaper.

 

[Stoneburner]

same tech with 8 more pipes and about 100 or more mhz? I find it difficult to believe. If it happens it will be a phantom like the 7800 ultra (i'm not calling it a gtx 512mb except to explain here that I won't be calling it that)

 

[TomKazansky]

eventually, nvidia is going to run out of pcb space to lay down the pps and will turn to the solution ati has to offer in late january.

true story.

 

[destrekor]

how much of a "phantom" was the FX 5950 after the 5900? It became the standard top of the line card before the new generation of cards came in.
refresh's are usually more popular, but something is holding the GTX512 back, and I am thinking nVidia may not make many and simply switch over to g71 production. i mean, it could be like the 5800, which wasn't in production for too long because nvidia favored making something better and more effecient. the g71, with the rumored specs, would destroy all other competition, and'll likely destroy the r580.
ATi needs to get their gear together
and nVidia needs to keep up what they are doing

edit: said r520 instead of 580, woopsie

 

[TomKazansky]

Originally posted by: destrekor
how much of a "phantom" was the FX 5950 after the 5900? It became the standard top of the line card before the new generation of cards came in.
refresh's are usually more popular, but something is holding the GTX512 back, and I am thinking nVidia may not make many and simply switch over to g71 production. i mean, it could be like the 5800, which wasn't in production for too long because nvidia favored making something better and more effecient. the g71, with the rumored specs, would destroy all other competition, and'll likely destroy the r520.
ATi needs to get their gear together
and nVidia needs to keep up what they are doing

gtx 512mb is the phantom card. i see irony.

people are missing the point here....both company can offer just about the same performance as of each other right now. It's just how each company markets their products and the price (supply/demand) for them.

 

[destrekor]

Originally posted by: infestedgh0st
eventually, nvidia is going to run out of pcb space to lay down the pps and will turn to the solution ati has to offer in late january.

true story.

what exactly do you mean? by not offering as many pixel pipelines and running a higher clockrate?
that wont happen
and they wont run out of "pcb space" when you say pps, pixel pipelines? if so, thats not on the actual pcb, but rather in the silicon of the chip. and with a move to 90nm, instead of the 110nm process they have been using, the chip would shrink and they could easily add more pipelines. whats likely to occur is the chips that are made using the 90nm for the G71 will probably be the same physical size as the 110nm ones as they will simply add more features and in result create a product at a size thats would be okay. before the shrink the size may have been too big, but after the shrink, its right at where it should be, size wise.

 

[slash196]

All I can say is while the specs did have me drooling a little, I'm steadfast in my devotion to my 6800GT, and though it's getting long in the tooth, I will not buy another video card until games start needing DirectX 10. It's all about self-control.

 

[Cooler]

Originally posted by: slash196
All I can say is while the specs did have me drooling a little, I'm steadfast in my devotion to my 6800GT, and though it's getting long in the tooth, I will not buy another video card until games start needing DirectX 10. It's all about self-control.

Im with you there. No X10 no money from me.

 

[Munky]

Originally posted by: Kroz

Originally posted by: munky
32 pipes? I'll believe it when it's official. The Inq also said the r520 will have 32 pipes... and then shortly before the launch revised it to 16

Why not the 7800 GT has 20 pipes "now" and the GTX has 24 pipes "now" so I wouldn't be surprised if it does get 32 pipes.

Because this is the g71, not the g80. Since when has a refresh of a card ever had more pipes?

 

[destrekor]

here's a question: if more pipes are added, but the architecture is still the same, just with added pipes, whats the chip called? a new chip or a refresh?
I'd consider it a refresh
depends on how strict a 'refresh' is.
Its like Athlon64's. Technically, all the A64 chips are still the same generation of chip, and then theres the new generation of X2's and the Opteron's and the FX (really just suped-up A64's).
But within each family is different core 'refreshes', each with different features.
I believe it was the Venice core-refresh that added SSE3 functionality, although it could have been SanDiego.
But see what I mean? Same architecture, but same original functionality, but new functionality is added and the architecture is enhanced.

a refresh is a refresh: stuff changed and or added to a chip, but keeps the original architecture style, just enhanced. Adding pipelines doesn't require architecture change.

i'll get a g71 if it is what the rumors point it to be, and comes out before the end of february, simply because I might as well not waste a Step-Up chance...

 

[Slaimus]

Originally posted by: Genx87
My theory about the original G70 being a 32pipe card with 1 quad disabled may have some legitimacy. Lets wait and see how close the transistor count is.

Um a 32pipe with 1 quad disabled means it has 28pipes enabled. I think you mean two quads disabled?

 

[nitromullet]

It might be possible that the INQ wasn't as far off with R520 as many people think. It's quite likely that ATI had different plans for R520 originally, and that they were either forced to alter what they had or go with something different (the 16 piper still turned out to be a really nice card). Not that I think that the INQ is a bastion of truth, but it's possile that they are right the money here, plus NV has really been on a charge lately, so it wouldn't be that big of a surprise.