g7 VS RAZOR copperhead

[powen]

Can anyone tell me the big different from them too as there is no review on that. i have a mx 1000 right now but it's reallly not good for fps

 

[Eureka]

I'm not too knowledgeable about the two, but from what I do know, the Copperhead has a higher dpi (scanning rate I believe) than the G5... The G5 I know has DPI that you can change just by pressing a button, not sure if the Copperhead has that. But mostly it comes down to personal preferance for shape and company.

Norm

 

[powen]

anyone else that can help me i really need a new mouse

 

[Eureka]

It basically comes down to personal preference, but if you ask me both of them are overpriced. Check the mx518 or Razer Daimondback.

Norm

 

[dfloyd]

Actually both are 2000 DPI.

Between the two I would personally say the Logitech wins for several reasons. Better teflon feet, a more ergonomic and comfortable layout (This is of course more of a personal choice), the ability to add weights to make the mouse lighter or heavier for whichever type of mouse you prefer, and better overall software plus hardware on the fly switching (Does not have to have software installed to do the on the fly sensitivity switching, or at least that is what I have read. I understand with the Razor you do have to have the software installed for the switching. This is not a huge thing, but say if you use Linux and such you can do the on the fly switching with the Logitech even without the software, which is a nice plus if you prefer to not install their software).

The Copperhead does have better button placement, at least in a way, than the Diamondback did. They are lower and back a little bit. Being lower they are easier to find and click than they were on the Diamondback but being back some annoys some people.

But bottom line over all of this comes down to this, at least imo, the price. The Logitech G5 is quite a bit cheaper.

Ok I notice you say in your post the G7 vs the Copperhead. I think you mean the G5 vs the Copperhead. The G7 is the wireless version of the G5 so not really a fair comparison as they are different types of mice. If you are wanting wireless then there is definatly no competition as there is no wireless Razer. But the G5 is the direct competitor to the Razer Copperhead. Like I stated, both are 2000 DPI but the G5 just has alot more features that are better overall imo. The ability to add weight to the mouse, the huge teflon feet, the hardware sensitivity switching, and the much lower price make the G5 the clear winner in my book. The one advantage the Copperhead has imo is its alot smaller, so if you have very small hands then it may be better for you.

Whatever you decide though I am sure any of them would make a great mouse. So good luck friend.

Edit: And on the above note of the Diamondback or the 518, if you decide to go with a lower priced one also check the Optorite Laser Mouse. Its cheaper than all of them and its a true laser with great teflon feet, lots of buttons, a very nice ergonomic layout, especially for someone with medium to larger hands and only $22 from Newegg. But that is if your wanting to consider a cheaper one. I have heard from quite a few people who have the Mx518 or the Diamondback and prefer this mouse over both of them. I just ordered one myself so when it arrives I will let you know how it feels. I wanted to go with the Red as it looks really nice, but I have a Blue and black case and am ordering the Blue and black Saitek keyboard so I went with the blue just to match the rest of my system. But good luck again with your choice.

 

[Eureka]

Optorite is very nice, but I prefer even my mx510 over it because the optorite is so extremely light. It's the right size, but not the right weight. Personally, the best choices for mice are:
Razer Diamondback (never tried it, but very good for value)
Logitech MX518 (pricier Mx510)
Logitech MX510 (what I have)
Optorite Laser (extremely light but good value)

Norm

 

[argoldst]

i went with the copperhead and I love it. I blows away my old mx518. I have never used the g5 but I heard it had problems reading on a lot of mousepads.

Another BIG plus is that the copperhead has firmware which you can flash. This allows for a lot of things that the g5 just can't match. For examlpe, copperhead had a similar problem with many mousepads. They released new firmware and it now works on everything I know of. This cannot be done with the g5 since you cannot flash it.

 

[Eureka]

I've yet to try out the ergonomics of Razer, but so far I am loving the Logitech ergonomics, but be warned, its only for right-handers.

Norm

 

[dfloyd]

Actually Argoldst not alot of mousepads but there are a couple specific types that it does not read as well. Most all optical mice had a certain type of surface they would not read well on. It only has to do with dark color or black textured surfaces. It works fine on any lighter colored textured surfaces and fine on all smooth surfaces and even then its not a definate thing as I have read some claim they have dark colored textured surfaces and it works fine.

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...atid=30&threadid=1701037&enterthread=y

Again though good luck with your choice. As far as the light thing goes with the Optorite mice, every single review I have read has listed that as a plus. Saying it makes quick movements in 3d shooters alot easier. Of course it is a personal preference. I do like heavier mice myself as it feels more like somethings in my hand, but I am using a light mouse now and it honestly feels great as well so I will just have to wait and see.

Like I say I did order one of the Optorite so as soon as it comes in I will post more info. (Normally I would say the mouse would be here in a couple days as I ordered it from Newegg, but considering they have moved all their base shipping over to UPS (The crappiest shippers in the business) it will probably be a week or so before i get it. I swore I would never deal with companies who use UPS again and I was very glad to deal with Newegg in the past. Fedex always did an amazing job, i mean 99% of the time my package came early. Thats NEVER happened in my fifteen or so years of using UPS, not once. They hold that package at the delivery center to make sure it does not come one day early, ever. Just stupid imo, as they would get alot happier customers if they moved the package through as quickly as they could, not hold it to force you to upgrade to higher shipping. I will be writing Newegg and letting them know I hope they go back to Fedex as their default shipper, (Their saver mode is now like $9 which used to be the standard from them for around $5), if not I am not sure I will stay a customer. I really dislike UPS from their previous shipping habits that much. That and Neweggs prices have been steadily working their way up to where they are not being as competitive as they once were so it wont be as hard to switch over to a different company for all my computer needs.

 

[eastvillager]

he said g7, not g5. how many of you have even touched a g7? heheheh.

In that comparison, the big difference is obvious, the cord. I'll be picking up a g7 whenever they show up in retail.

 

[EatFresh]

 

[EatFresh]

Long time listener, first time caller-

I've had my G7 a little over 2 weeks now and so far I love it. I found a great deal on it at 80.00 shipped so I couldn't resist. First thing to be known about this mouse is that it does NOT lag, at all. I've read a few posts from people who don't own the G7 on other forums that claim it has to lag since it's wireless, but the G7 has none whatsoever. The mouse feels a lot like the mx510, which is a good thing to me. because I absolutely loved my mx510. I just hated the cord that came with it. The G7 is very light weight too. It's probably a little heavier than the MX510, but can't be by much. The G7 comes with 2 batteries so you don't have to remember to put the mouse in a cradle. Once one battery dies you just pop it in the charger and grab the other one. The G7, as expected for such an expensive mouse, is very precise. I'm using a brand new Func Fseries F10.s mousepad with it and It's probably the best mouse/pad combo you can buy. It's so smooth my mouse has fell off my desk a couple times almost causing me to have a heart attack.

Oh yea, I've also used some of Razer's mice. I haven't used the copperhead, but I did own a diamondback at one time and they are said to be very similar. I used it for about 3 weeks solid before I gave it to my girlfriend. Besides a few qwerks the mouse preformed great, but It was just too small for me, but perfect for her little hands. She loves it. One thing I did hate about Razer's diamondback was I had to unplug it and plug it back in after each reboot. I don't know if the new ones are like that or not, but man that was annoying. I know the Copperhead has more side buttons than the G7, but I would trade a button or two for a wireless/better mouse any day of the week. Although those extra buttons mean nothing to me, I'd be willing to bet logitech releases another G? with more buttons. I know a lot of people see the price tag for the mouse and think that's crazy to pay that much for a mouse, but the performance I get in games with it being wireless makes it worth every penny in my book.