G620 or A6 3500 or i3 2100

[urpalvipul]

I want to build a new PC for gaming - (NFSMW 2012, crysis, gta etc), video calling, and basic use

Which configuration(CPU/APU + MOBO + GPU) would be better and which one cheaper. Also recommend the motherboard and the GPU to used with them.

Also as A6 3500 is an APU, so would it be enough for the above games or would it need an extra GPU

Thanks in Advance

Vipul

 

[Denithor]

Welcome to the forums!

You'll get better responses if you answer the questions in this post:
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=80121

And post the specifics in the General Hardware forum:
http://forums.anandtech.com/forumdisplay.php?f=4

As general answers, the games you have listed are very graphically demanding, you are not going to be happy with them on an A6. An i3 + dedicated GPU (7770 or above) is going to be the minimum you should consider.

 

[urpalvipul]

The price in that case is going a bit over the top. My budget is low.

i3+7770+Asus P8H61-M+4GB - would cost Rs. 25K.

While my budget for CPU+MOBO+GPU+RAM is Rs. 15-16K.

Kindly advise.

Thanks in Advance

 

[Jimzz]

I agree a I3 + Sep GPU is the Min. I5 + 7850 or higher would be good.

Where do you live? I am guessing India by the name. If in the US microcenter. If not then not sure what options you have.

 

[NTMBK]

If you can, you'd be better off looking for one of the newer Trinity APUs. Something like an A8-5600K would do a lot better.

Good luck!

 

[urpalvipul]

@Jimzz - thanks, but i5 would be way above on the budget

 

[urpalvipul]

@NTMBK - not yet in india

 

[NTMBK]

Is it possible to get the i3-3225? That has the HD4000 graphics, making it a pretty decent all round chip (strong CPU, decent graphics).

 

[AtenRa]

What resolution ???

 

[urpalvipul]

@NTMBK - seems an option - can be looked - still a bit over the budget. Thanks

 

[urpalvipul]

@AtenRa - low to med will do

 

[AtenRa]

For 720p the A8-3870K will be perfect. Is that close to your budget ??

 

[frozentundra123456]

For 720p the A8-3870K will be perfect. Is that close to your budget ??

I am not sure how to paste the links, but Toms hardware has done 2 or 3 articles describing gaming on the Trinity APU without a discrete card. At 720p you could in fact get by, but you will be limited in new, demanding games. I would strongly, strongly, encourage trying to get a discrete card. Even a HD7750 would be far better than any igp.

 

[AtenRa]

I am not sure how to paste the links, but Toms hardware has done 2 or 3 articles describing gaming on the Trinity APU without a discrete card. At 720p you could in fact get by, but you will be limited in new, demanding games. I would strongly, strongly, encourage trying to get a discrete card. Even a HD7750 would be far better than any igp.

I dont disagree but the HD7750 will be the same price as the CPU alone. He is clearly budget constrained, so the A8-3870K may be the best for the budget he has.

 

[VirtualLarry]

I know that it wasn't on the list, but what about an FX-6300, and a 7750?

 

[SPBHM]

I know that it wasn't on the list, but what about an FX-6300, and a 7750?

if you save some $20-30 on the CPU and go with a 7770 or 650 Ti the end result will be better for games...

if you definitely cannot afford a VGA faster or as fast as the GT 430 (128bits), than a llano APU (if the price is low enough, it's a dead platform), should be OK...

but the A6 3500 CPU clock is really low... k10 at 2.1GHz is not going to be great for most games, I suppose you could overclock to 2.4ghz using some software (taking advantage of how turbo works on this CPU),

also remember that you need to use dual channel memory and if possible DDR3 1600+ to use well the APU.

 

[Hubb1e]

You may also consider a Celeron and an AMD 6670. I'm not sure what the prices are that you listed but a Celeron and 6670 would make a decent budget gaming box. It's gonna reall depend on your local prices because what prices I know in the US arem't always the same in another country.

You can build a really nice gaming computer with a Pentium dual core and a 7750. This is what I would consider the minimum for enthusiast gaming.

You can build an OK gaming box with Celeron and a 6670 but you'll run into CPU bottlenecks in some games.

You can build a good gaming box with an AMD APU but stick to the quad core K models. The CPU in the AMD APUs are similar to an Intel i3 but the GPU is slower then the 6670. The GPU in the AMD chips can get by okay for now but won't age very well and in awhile you'll want to upgrade the GPU to something like an upcoming 8770 or equivalent.

Platform costs are the same between AMD and Intel. When I translate these into US prices you can get:
AMD A10 5800K APU $130 - you'll get i3 class CPU and decent GPU performance. Can always upgrade the GPU and you'll still have a decent CPU
Intel Celeron plus 6670 $130 - you'll get a slower CPU but with good GPU performance. Ability to upgrade this system to i3 or i5 class CPU.
Intel Pentium/i3 plus 7750 $230 You'll spend more but you will get good CPU performance and good GPU performance and I consider this the baseline gaming rig.

 

[urpalvipul]

@ALL - Thanks for the advise.

Would i3 2100 + Asus P8H61-ML + 7750 + 4GB ram be a good option (Costing me close to Rs. 19K - manageable)

 

[urpalvipul]

or A10 5800K + MOBO + 4GB ram better or comparable ( Costing me close to 14K)

 

[NTMBK]

The i3 and 7750 will give you the best performance out of the two, and should be a pretty well balanced build.

 

[AtenRa]

@ALL - Thanks for the advise.

Would i3 2100 + Asus P8H61-ML + 7750 + 4GB ram be a good option (Costing me close to Rs. 19K - manageable)

or A10 5800K + MOBO + 4GB ram better or comparable ( Costing me close to 14K)

The core i3 + 7750 will cost you 5K more but it is faster

How much will it cost you for an FX6300 + 970 mobo + 7750 + 4GB ram ??

 

[urpalvipul]

X630

@Atenra - FX6300 is not available in India -

@All - I agree i3 config is better - but what is the performance difference between i3+7750 & A10 5800K - as budget is a constraint for me

 

[ph2000]

i dont think there would be much diff , but i suggest go to i3 route
not that 5800K is bad but
the i3 setup will give you better graphics + upgradeability
while the 5800K is currently top of the line , but the saving can go to SSD

 

[AtenRa]

@Atenra - FX6300 is not available in India -

@All - I agree i3 config is better - but what is the performance difference between i3+7750 & A10 5800K - as budget is a constraint for me

http://www.hardware.fr/articles/878-10/gpu-f1-2011-civilization-v-battlefield-3.html

http://www.hardware.fr/articles/878-11/gpu-batman-arkham-city-crysis-2-diablo-3.html

Personally, I would go for the 5800K and 1866MHz ram. OC the iGPU to 1GHz and play all modern games at 720p and some at 1080p. Later you can buy a high-end discrete gpu.

 

[frozentundra123456]

@Atenra - FX6300 is not available in India -

@All - I agree i3 config is better - but what is the performance difference between i3+7750 & A10 5800K - as budget is a constraint for me

In most games you will be gpu limited, so the igp vs the 7750 is the determining factor. Anand doesnt have a bench for the igp of the A10, but it is slightly slower than a GT 640.

Comparing the HD7750 to the GT 640, the 7750 is overall about 50% faster. So I would expect the i3 plus 7750 to also be about 50% faster in gaming than the A10.