G5 Macs

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Originally posted by: AgaBooga
Why all the hate? If price wasn't a matter or concern, they're pretty good.

I live in a world where price is a consideration. Imagine if somebody came along with a new car that was similar to, say, a WRX but it cost $550k. People would hate it because it would suck, but obviously if price wasn't a concern it's still "pretty good".

 

[manly]

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: AgaBooga
Why all the hate? If price wasn't a matter or concern, they're pretty good.

I live in a world where price is a consideration. Imagine if somebody came along with a new car that was similar to, say, a WRX but it cost $550k. People would hate it because it would suck, but obviously if price wasn't a concern it's still "pretty good".

Good analogy, I hate the fact that the PowerMac G5 costs $40,000 vs. a comparable $2K Wintel workstation.

 

[Eug]

Originally posted by: Skoorb
I live in a world where price is a consideration. Imagine if somebody came along with a new car that was similar to, say, a WRX but it cost $550k. People would hate it because it would suck, but obviously if price wasn't a concern it's still "pretty good".

Last I checked, a dual Xeon 3.06 Precision 650 workstation costs more than a dual G5 2.0 when configured the same way.

The price might have dropped by now, but my guess is that it's still more than the dual G5.

With Macs, you get EVERYTHING. However, it's impossible for instance to buy a G5 PowerMac without SATA or optical in/out, or a bazillion fans, or aluminum case, etc.

 

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Originally posted by: manly

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: AgaBooga
Why all the hate? If price wasn't a matter or concern, they're pretty good.

I live in a world where price is a consideration. Imagine if somebody came along with a new car that was similar to, say, a WRX but it cost $550k. People would hate it because it would suck, but obviously if price wasn't a concern it's still "pretty good".

Good analogy, I hate the fact that the PowerMac G5 costs $40,000 vs. a comparable $2K Wintel workstation.

exactly. Damn things are pricey as hell!

With Macs, you get EVERYTHING. However, it's impossible for instance to buy a G5 PowerMac without SATA or optical in/out, or a bazillion fans, or aluminum case, etc.

Can you get one that will run the office suite 🙂

 

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Can you get one that will run the office suite 🙂

Uh yeah? 😕

 

[Koing]

Originally posted by: Eug

Just a question.

Why is the gui STILL slow on SUCH a machine? IT SHOULD NOT LAG on a machine like so. If so either the GUI is too intense or badly coded or the cpu is too slow.

Not hating just a question.

I think it rocks and is great and I'd take one. Maybe even buy one if it was the same as the pc type of prices 😀

Koing

It's not slow on a G5. It's slow on say a iBook 600 with Rage 128 though, even though that machine is only 2 years old. (In contrast, XP is fine on a Pentium III 600.)

The OS is OpenGL accelerated and G4-optimized. IMO you need at least a Radeon, and a G4 is highly recommended, to properly make use of features such as Exposé.

Oh I see. I thought it was in reference with the G5 or G4 being choppy or lagy.

And that Expose feature is SWEET. That would be very cool on pc. Must be a program like it right?

<-- doesn't need apple cinema screen as I have the Sony equivalent 23" lcd 1920x1200 res 😀 (saved lots of money and upgrade less then you guys and only every 3yrs or 4yrs 😀)

Koing

 

[Eug]

Oh I see. I thought it was in reference with the G5 or G4 being choppy or lagy.

On a G4 800 it's fine. On a G4 400 it will be tolerable with a Radeon, but won't be fast.

And that Expose feature is SWEET. That would be very cool on pc. Must be a program like it right?

No idea. Longhorn will probably have something similar though, since Longhorn is 3D accelerated too. But that's 2005. 😉

 

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Originally posted by: Eug

Originally posted by: Skoorb
Can you get one that will run the office suite 🙂

Uh yeah? 😕

Is that a bastardized version? I'm not seeing support for office 2003 😀

 

[yoda291]

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: Eug

Originally posted by: Skoorb
Can you get one that will run the office suite 🙂

Uh yeah? 😕

Is that a bastardized version? I'm not seeing support for office 2003 😀

the office series for the mac is seperate from the one for Windows.

 

[Jeff7181]

My new PowerMac G5

 

[Eug]

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: Eug

Originally posted by: Skoorb
Can you get one that will run the office suite 🙂

Uh yeah? 😕

Is that a bastardized version? I'm not seeing support for office 2003 😀

Well i wouldn't expect Office 2003 support in v.X, since Office v.X came out 2 years ago. 😛

ie.

Office 97 on Windows
Office 98 on Mac OS 9

Office 2000 on Windows
Office 2001 on Mac OS 9

Office XP on Windows
Office v.X on Mac OS X

Office 2003 on Windows
? for Mac OS X.

Anyways, I use Office XP at home on my XP desktop, Office 97 and 2000 at work, and Office v.X at home on my laptop. (Posting here is my way of procrastination for working on a PowerPoint presentation I'm supposed to be doing right now actually. 😛) The features of Office v.X are similar to Office XP, but v.X looks nicer.

 

[LethalWolfe]

Koing,

What do you find unsnappy about the OS? I've got a dual gig G4, my parents have a 15" iMac G4 800, and I've played around w/various laptops and towers at the local Apple store and none of them seem sluggish to me (I'm runing 10.1.5, 'rents are running 10.2.8 and Panther was on all the store Macs when I was last in there). By comparison I've also gotta p3 800 w/win2k and I built my g/f a rig w/an AMD 1800 that's running XP (512meg of RAM in both). Now if you have a g3 w/128meg RAM and an older vid card that doesn't handle Quartz Extreme then that's going to hurt performance, but I've heard damn near unanimous<sp?> user feedback that Panther gives very noticable speed improvements especially on older Macs. /rant


Lethal